posted September 08, 2019 01:20 PM            

So I'm hoping that I can get some guidance on the state of my love life through the natal chart. So far I've learned a lot about my Venus in 7th house Aries and also the ruler of the house is in my 6th house of Pisces. I'm looking for more information on like the type of partner that would fit best for me, and or specific signs that would work better with my chart.

I also have looked into my Juno placements and its aspects, but I don't know how to put it all into one perspective so that I could move forward dating with confidence and knowing what's really going to work best for me.

I have had really good synastry with my last partner(Pluto-Venus conjunction, Mars-Venus soft aspect, Moon-Mars -though it's a square, Sun-Moon soft aspect, Mercury-Venus) but we separated due to differences in love languages and also distance(Uranus conj nn in 10th house). Although I'm sure if she didn't move, we would definitely still be together (Venus conjunct Saturn/Mars/NN 10th house).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

posted September 09, 2019 05:08 AM            

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So far I've learned a lot about my Venus in 7th house Aries and also the ruler of the house is in my 6th house of Pisces.

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The ruler of Venus (in Aries) is Mars in 6th house. ... The 7th house has Pisces on the cusp - so it is ruled (jointly) by Jupiter and Neptune.

Theoretically, those with Pisces on the cusp of the 7th house tend to be attracted to partners that project the qualities of Pisces. ... However, since you have Venus-in-Aries and Mars-in-Pisces, might you be attracted to females that take the lead in relationships?

posted September 09, 2019 08:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

The ruler of Venus (in Aries) is Mars in 6th house. ... The 7th house has Pisces on the cusp - so it is ruled (jointly) by Jupiter and Neptune.

Theoretically, those with Pisces on the cusp of the 7th house tend to be attracted to partners that project the qualities of Pisces. ... However, since you have Venus-in-Aries and Mars-in-Pisces, might you be attracted to females that take the lead in relationships?

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I would say yes! I like women who are strong, and loyal. I’m I seen to be currently attracting very emotional women, which I think is the Mars-Pisces aspect.

Do these aspects also affect where I would normally meet these type of people? Cause I’ve found that when I date online I find more women who are water signs but when I meet someone out and about, I’m usually approached by Fire signs or Scorpios.

posted September 09, 2019 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by IV4Four:

I would say yes! I like women who are strong, and loyal. I’m I seen to be currently attracting very emotional women, which I think is the Mars-Pisces aspect.

Do these aspects also affect where I would normally meet these type of people? Cause I’ve found that when I date online I find more women who are water signs but when I meet someone out and about, I’m usually approached by Fire signs or Scorpios.

I’m really trying to gather as much information as possible so I can get a better understanding of my love life and ideal partner.

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The fire/scorpio contacts are face-to-face ... so what-they-see is what-these-women-get. And, my guess is that your Aries Venus and Pisces Mars are both attracting and being attracted by these (seemingly) strong females.

The water sign/online contacts are seeing what you choose to not hide from them ... so what-they-see is not what-these-women-get.

That is why ... on your earlier interpersonal thread ... I advised you to explore the 17th harmonic aspects in your natal chart, in which Venus is a key player.

But ... does that "rebellious and subversive" 17th harmonic Venus really want to become conscious/aware of what you (subconsciously) desire from your love life/ideal partner?

posted September 09, 2019 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

The fire/scorpio contacts are face-to-face ... so what-they-see is what-these-women-get. And, my guess is that your Aries Venus and Pisces Mars are both attracting and being attracted by these (seemingly) strong females.

The water sign/online contacts are seeing what you choose to not hide from them ... so what-they-see is not what-these-women-get.

That is why ... on your earlier interpersonal thread ... I advised you to explore the 17th harmonic aspects in your natal chart, in which Venus is a key player.

But ... does that "rebellious and subversive" 17th harmonic Venus really want to become conscious/aware of what you (subconsciously) [b]desire from your love life/ideal partner?

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Interesting this all makes sense.. it makes me feel like I should focus more on meeting people in out in the world.

I tired looking for more information on this 17th harmonic chart but I’m not sure what to be looking at. You you mind expanding more on this as it’s all new information to me!

posted September 09, 2019 01:02 PM            

Here ya go J

posted September 09, 2019 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:

Here ya go J

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Whoa! Thank you! This chart looks really interesting, but I’m still unsure of how it’s read.. I see some interesting Squares and conjunctions.. any further interpretations would be highly appreciated!!

posted September 09, 2019 04:43 PM            

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@Graham, if I were to post my 17th harmonic in a separate thread, could I get your insight on it as well?

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posted September 09, 2019 10:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

[QUOTE]@Graham, if I were to post my 17th harmonic in a separate thread, could I get your insight on it as well?

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Any insights @Graham ?

posted September 10, 2019 02:57 AM            

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Originally posted by IV4Four:
Any insights @Graham ?

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I have transferred the relevant Venus aspects (in your 17th harmonic chart) to your natal chart (see image below) ... and shall return asap to explain. [Bear in mind that I am in the UK, so currently on UT+1 time.]

For now though ... notice how these aspects form a configuration that (like a loudspeaker/megaphone) increases the volume of the message being projected/expressed by Venus.

posted September 10, 2019 11:12 AM            

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For now though ... notice how these aspects form a configuration that (like a loudspeaker) increases the volume of the message being projected/expressed by Venus.
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posted September 10, 2019 02:13 PM            

1. In all Harmonic Charts, the maximum orbs are ... 12 degrees for conjunctions : 6 degrees for oppositions : 4 degrees for trines : 3 degrees for squares and 90 minutes for semi-squares/sesquisqusres.

2. The conjunctions in a harmonic chart show (in the natal chart) as that aspect between the two planets. ... So, your Venus-Uranus and Moon-Pluto conjunctions in the 17th Harmonic Chart are Venus-Uranus and Moon-Pluto 17H aspects in the natal chart.

3. The (2H) oppositions in a harmonic chart show (in the natal chart) as a 34H aspect between the two planets ... because 2H x 17H = 34H.

4. The (4H) squares in a harmonic chart show (in the natal chart) as a 68H aspect between the two planets ... because 4H x 17H = 68H.

5. In your 17th Harmonic Chart, Mars and Sun are each making a within-12degrees-orb conjunction to Venus-Uranus. So, in your natal chart, there is a Sun-Venus-Mars-Uranus 17H configuration ... which I have not drawn in my posted chart (because I want to focus first upon the 17th Harmonic Chart's Venus-Uranus opposition to Pluto-Moon.).

6. In my posting of your natal chart extract, the 17H aspect lines are solid - and the 34H aspect lines are dotted.

[Note : I have to now sign-off the forum for today, but will return to this asap tomorrow. ... In the meantime though, see if you can spot the planet (other than Mars and Sun) that is aspecting Venus-Uraus in the 17th Harmonic Chart, but is not included in my posting of your natal chart extract.]

posted September 10, 2019 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

First ... this is how the 17H Venus aspect lines drawn on your natal chart relate to the (red line) aspects in your 17th Harmonic Chart ... (as, later in the thread, you/we will want to also do this with your Mars aspects) :-

1. In [b]all Harmonic Charts, the maximum orbs are ... 12 degrees for conjunctions : 6 degrees for oppositions : 4 degrees for trines : 3 degrees for squares and 90 minutes for semi-squares/sesquisqusres.

2. The conjunctions in a harmonic chart show (in the natal chart) as that aspect between the two planets. ... So, your Venus-Uranus and Moon-Pluto conjunctions in the 17th Harmonic Chart are Venus-Uranus and Moon-Pluto 17H aspects in the natal chart.

3. The (2H) oppositions in a harmonic chart show (in the natal chart) as a 34H aspect between the two planets ... because 2H x 17H = 34H.

4. The (4H) squares in a harmonic chart show (in the natal chart) as a 68H aspect between the two planets ... because 4H x 17H = 68H.

5. In your 17th Harmonic Chart, Mars and Sun are each making a within-12degrees-orb conjunction to Venus-Uranus. So, in your natal chart, there is a Sun-Venus-Mars-Uranus 17H configuration ... which I have not drawn in my posted chart (because I want to focus first upon the 17th Harmonic Chart's Venus-Uranus opposition to Pluto-Moon.).

6. In my posting of your natal chart extract, the 17H aspect lines are solid - and the 34H aspect lines are dotted.

[Note : I have to now sign-off the forum for today, but will return to this asap tomorrow. ... In the meantime though, see if you can spot the planet (other than Mars and Sun) that is aspecting Venus-Uraus in the 17th Harmonic Chart, but is not included in my posting of your natal chart extract.]

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posted September 11, 2019 01:50 AM            

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From what I can see, it looks like the missing planets are Jupiter and Neptune.

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In your 17th Harmonic Chart, Jupiter is qcx Sun and Neptune is square Mars ... but neither of those outer planets makes a within-orb aspect to the Venus-Uranus conjunction. ... However, Saturn is doing that (via a square) - thus making two 168H natal aspects which I have not drawn in my extract.

posted September 11, 2019 02:05 AM            

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In my posting of your natal chart extract, the 17H aspect lines are solid - and the 34H aspect lines are dotted.

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So ... in the natal chart extract ... we are looking at a Venus that is being "shaped" via a 17H aspect to (slower-moving-planet) Uranus ... and manifesting/projecting that shaping via the 34H aspects to Pluto and Moon - with the Moon also in the process of being shaped via a 17H aspect to (slower-moving-planet) Pluto.

Moreover ... although much more research is required to determine the meaning of the 17th harmonic aspect ... David Hamblin"s 2019 book (Harmonic Astrology In Practice) provides us with a current working definition of "rebelliousness, subversiveness, campaigning for change".

So ... using that working definition, IV4Four ... your planet-of-attraction (Venus) is actively seeking (Aries) a mature female (Moon) that is rebellious (Uranus) and subversive (Pluto). ... (Perhaps something like the woman played by Elizabeth Taylor in "Relections in A Golden Eye". )

posted September 11, 2019 08:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
So ... in the natal chart extract ... we are looking at a Venus that is being [b]"shaped" via a 17H aspect to (slower-moving-planet) Uranus ... and manifesting/projecting that shaping via the 34H aspects to Pluto and Moon - with the Moon also in the process of being shaped via a 17H aspect to (slower-moving-planet) Pluto.

Moreover ... although much more research is required to determine the meaning of the 17th harmonic aspect ... David Hamblin"s 2019 book (Harmonic Astrology In Practice) provides us with a current working definition of "rebelliousness, subversiveness, campaigning for change".

So ... using that working definition, IV4Four ... your planet-of-attraction (Venus) is actively seeking (Aries) a mature female (Moon) that is rebellious (Uranus) and subversive (Pluto). ... (Perhaps something like the woman played by Elizabeth Taylor in "Relections in A Golden Eye". )

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This is rather interesting because it also describes the women that I’m attracted to as I posted earlier.

Now my next question is, can we determine where these or when these type of partners would enters someone’s life? Or under what circumstances would they appear?

Now that I can project this shaped Venus Aspect, into the 6 house, would this mean that I’m likely to meet someone like this in my career? As in the thing I’m destined to do in this life? Or is it in any working environment?

posted September 12, 2019 01:33 PM            

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Now my next question is, can we determine where these or when these type of partners would enters someone’s life? Or under what circumstances would they appear?

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Now that I can project this shaped Venus Aspect, into the 6 house, would this mean that I’m likely to meet someone like this in my career? As in the thing I’m destined to do in this life? Or is it in any working environment?

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posted September 13, 2019 09:30 AM            

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To [b]consciously project Venus, you have to be running - and to run (without falling) you have to first spend time learning to walk.[/B]

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posted September 13, 2019 10:19 AM            

So ... Aries Venus is ruled by Pisces Mars ... Pisces Mars is ruled by Capricorn Neptune ... Capricorn Neptune is ruled by Capricorn Saturn ... Capricorn Saturn is ruled by itself, so the energy of this dispositior chain stops here (in 4th house of home, family and psychological foundations).

But, Pisces Mars is also ruled by Cancer Jupiter ... Cancer Jupiter is ruled by Libra Moon ... Libra Moon is ruled by Aries Venus ... Aries Venus is the starting point of the chain, so the (unconscious) flow of this energy does not have a stopping point.

posted September 13, 2019 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

Aspects are planet-shaping mechanisms. ... Dispositior chains are the mechanism that shows how the energy of a planet is used/"projected".

So ... Aries Venus is ruled by Pisces Mars ... Pisces Mars is ruled by Capricorn Neptune ... Capricorn Neptune is ruled by Capricorn Saturn ... Capricorn Saturn is ruled by itself, so the energy of [b]this dispositior chain stops here (in 4th house of home, family and psychological foundations).

But, Pisces Mars is also ruled by Cancer Jupiter ... Cancer Jupiter is ruled by Libra Moon ... Libra Moon is ruled by Aries Venus ... Aries Venus is the starting point of the chain, so the (unconscious) flow of this energy does not have a stopping point.

Can you now see why (before attempting to use the energy consciously) you need to understand what each planet in the dispositior chain is "promising" in your natal chart?[/B]

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Graham you got some knowledge my friend. I see what you’re saying. I guess because it’s so many interconnected parts to it, it’s hard for me to make a direct conclusion on it all.