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Loveher
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posted October 22, 2019 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do they happen together or after one another, why does the dark night of the soul happens?
I feel like I had the first part of my spiritual awakening summer 2018 and now since summer 2019 I feel that I started to go through dark night of the soul. Are they connected? How long do they last? Any personal experiences or advice? Why do they happen hand in hand?

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posted October 22, 2019 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 23, 2019 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've been reading St. John of The Cross, 16th Century catholic mystical literature?

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(music) Loreena McKennitt -The Dark Night of The Soul - St. John of the Cross (lyrics) [6:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MnEwaSdlnk

Poem--
One dark night,
fired with love’s urgent longings
– ah, the sheer grace! –
I went out unseen,
my house being now all stilled.

In darkness, and secure,
by the secret ladder, disguised,
– ah, the sheer grace! –
in darkness and concealment,
my house being now all stilled.

On that glad night,
in secret, for no one saw me,
nor did I look at anything,
with no other light or guide
than the one that burned in my heart.
*~

Here's one translation...
STANZAS OF THE SOUL
1. On a dark night, Kindled in love with yearnings—oh, happy chance!— I went forth without being observed, My house being now at rest.

2. In darkness and secure, By the secret ladder, disguised—oh, happy chance!— In darkness and in concealment, My house being now at rest.

3. In the happy night, In secret, when none saw me, Nor I beheld aught, Without light or guide, save that which burned in my heart.

4. This light guided me More surely than the light of noonday To the place where he (well I knew who!) was awaiting me— A place where none appeared.

5. Oh, night that guided me, Oh, night more lovely than the dawn, Oh, night that joined Beloved with lover, Lover transformed in the Beloved!

6. Upon my flowery breast, Kept wholly for himself alone,
There he stayed sleeping, and I caressed him, And the fanning of the cedars made a breeze.

7. The breeze blew from the turret As I parted his locks; With his gentle hand he wounded my neck And caused all my senses to be suspended.

8. I remained, lost in oblivion; My face I reclined on the Beloved. All ceased and I abandoned myself, Leaving my cares forgotten among the lilies.

From...
- http://carmelitemonks.org/Vocation/DarkNight-StJohnoftheCross.pdf
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BOOK --
- http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Night-Dover-Thrift-Editions/dp/0486426939

Quote NOTES--
The great Spanish mystic St. John of the Cross became a Carmelite monk in 1563 and helped St. Teresa of Avila to reform the Carmelite order — enduring persecution and imprisonment for his efforts.
Both in his writing and in his life, he demonstrated eloquently his love for God.
His written thoughts on man's relationship with God were literacy endeavors that placed him on an intellectual and philosophical level with such great writers as St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.

In this work — a spiritual masterpiece and classic of Christian literature and mysticism — he addresses several subjects, among them pride, avarice, envy, and other human imperfections.
His discussion of the "dark night of the spirit," which considers afflictions and pain suffered by the soul, is followed by an extended explanation of divine love and the soul's exultant union with God.

This fine translation by E. Allison Peers "is the most faithful that has appeared in any European language: it is, indeed, much more than a translation for [Peers] added his own valuable historical and [critically interpretive] notes."
— London Times.

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posted October 23, 2019 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"Essentially, the Dark night is a process of shedding away your old home and going in search of a new one. Understandably, this process requires a huge leap of faith into the unknown which can come at quite a sudden and frightening pace.

If you think you might be going through this journey, it’s important to understand that many of us have been where you are. Many people still are. There is no map, there is only the flickering luminescence of your Soul to light the way." ... http://lonerwolf.com/the-dark-night-of-the-soul/ ... (work your way through the freebies)


The search for a new home always goes hand-in-hand with the realisation that the time has come to move on.

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posted October 23, 2019 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The dark night exists, because we've never tried to bring light into it, coz we've been running away from it through out our whole life/lives perhaps, but no matter where you go it is always there, it always exists, now you can go into it either looking like a pile of cowdung, mulling in the misery it creates, or you can go into it like a soldier in the battlefront goes into the battle, both balls hanging out(sorry women, tough luck, perhaps you can make use of the upper ones rofll ), sword unsheathed, and a booze in one hand, Welcome to the dark, ahahaha!

You should be glad that I'm the one welcoming you, even my name fits the king of the darkness! anonymidarkness, god knows why I wrote this sht, but well enjoy the ride!!.....remember, both balls hanging out...and booze in one hand....and yeah don't forget the sword...


EDIT: FORGOT TO WISH GUD LUCK, BEST OF LUCK!!!


And if sht hits the fan, which it will, just repeat my name three times and it shall be alright, u can say it even in the middle of the crowd, they won't get what you are saying....remember the mantra....anonymidarkness

THREE times REMEMBER!!

Now go on, Hari Om!

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posted October 25, 2019 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ANyway, if u want an advice, do everything totally, leave no stones unturned, put intensity into every thing, and you will find yourself in it. ...

And don't take this advice as a dogma....with or without it...

Adios.

TO the thread ofcourse, ofcourse there is no goodbye, loll.

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posted October 26, 2019 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Loveher, yes, I would say that an ego-death is a part of a true spiritual awakening. You might like to pick up a copy of E. Tolle’s “A New Earth” for more info on the root of the matter

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posted October 27, 2019 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loveher..
Do you have any threads or posts where you described what happened to you last summer of 2018?

Have you written it out at LL yet?-- it would be fantastic to read your story.

Could even begin a new thread {in Divine Divinities forum, or a different one} to describe your experience, then link it.

I believe we've had a few threads on Dark night here at LL, in various other forums. If I come across them, I'll add links to those in your thread(s).

I'm looking forward to reading your adventures.

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posted October 27, 2019 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My story is weird, I am still trying to make sense of it. That is why I am isolating myself now because no one can really understand me. I just read spirituality stuff and watch spiritual teachers online. I feel they can understand my soul.


I come from a family with psychic gifts. I believe we got it from my mother’s side. Her family is well known for both religion and spirituality. My sisters and I had weird incidents growing up. My brothers really do not have any gifts.

My sisters had weird things going on, they have witnessed weird experiences, like seeing spirits and ghosts. They had intuitions and premonitions. Some of them even can telepathically feel when someone is thinking about them and even know what they were thinking. My mother told us crazy stories she had growing up, how both her and her family were able to see ghosts and spirits. However, since each person of her family started to move on their own, start families and stuff they lost touch of their spiritual sides and got more involved in the real world and they stopped having those experiences. But us her kids we kept having them. And they get intense every time.


Two of my sisters and I believe in tarot and astrology. But I did not pay much attention. All my sister’s friends who read auras or were psychics had this weird look when they saw me and got frozen and refused to talk about it. Until one of them told my sister that there is some kind of a spiritual being like a guide who is always around me and that’s what they were seeing the whole time. In my 20s I was told he is my grandfather who is trying to guide me. He died when I was 8 or so.


Growing up I had weird incidents too. I have seen some kind of a ghost or a spirit when I was 13, she was an old woman who came out of the closet and walked towards me while I was in bed, I could not move and she kept coming too close, I ran to turn on the lights she was gone, but few minutes later I saw a shadow that was not mine. also, I have seen a dead person in my family in the night of their death I saw their spirit. and I have felt a spirit around when I as a teen, this woman death still hurts me because she died unfairly, and I felt her spirit around me the morning she died. Like she wanted me to know something.

My sister and I have strong feelings. Sometimes we know that someone did something wrong, or if a place has negative vibes. All this was just things we had but did not really discuss or work on. As a kid I remember telling my family that I can feel things energy, like a tv monitor or even clothes.

I remember my sisters, myself and my mother struggled with sleep paralysis. There was a certain room in the house whenever I sleep in I get sleep paralysis.

All those stuff happened randomly, I did not stop and think about them.
I remember when I first got into astrology I used to watch an astrologer who said that I will travel and I will get spiritual experience. And that’s what happened.

Two years after I traveled, I had a spontaneous astral projection. I was too scared from it because I never really known anything about it. I saw my body down there and my soul was up there, and I had a panic attack trying to get back to my body. When I woke up I though that I died. I searched online and they mentioned all the signs of astral projection and they all happened to me. Funny thing is it happened when I slept while I was very angry. I read more about astral projection and it helped to know that I was not dying. I could not tell any of my family because they would think that I am crazy. I just hoped that it wont happen again.

About a year later and I still remember this, I was at a café shop and I was on my way to a job interview. I got the receipt and the time was 11:11 for some reasons I got chills. I looked around the café and things seemed different like everything was so calm and in a slow motion. The sun was coming in through the windows. It looked like a winter day even though it was the summer. I just felt like that moment a spiritual awakening experience has started. At that time I did not know anything about a spiritual awaking, I did not even know it was a thing. I just felt that something has shifted around me and things wont be the same. It was like someone has pulled some kind of lenses away from my eyes. Things looked different. I kept seeing 11:11 so I did my research again trying to understand. I learned about angel numbers, I learned about spiritual awaking, and most importantly I found a spiritual teacher online. Every time I came back from work, I would just sit there and watch spiritual videos. Or read about angel numbers. I felt so detached from the reality. I felt like people are wasting their lives, by spreading hate, negativity or chasing empty dreams. The thing that scared me the most was to be like them, what if I give my all to a job to be tossed aside later and be forgotten. I felt like I have something else to offer. I felt different. I was able to see through people at work, I was able to see through politics and religions, its like I figured all the lies around me and I felt alone. Like no one can get how amazing its if we see things from a spiritual perspective, like we all came here for a soul contract, for a mission, we all came here as spirits. I could not get why people got so attached to their physical experience, I stopped understanding why people get so attached to this reality, I felt like I am in the corner on my own just observing them. After I started to see people as spirits like this person might had a contract with me thats why they act like an ******* or this person is a soul family, I felt like I was able to rise above many things, this spiritual perspective helped to adjust and manage others emotions and my own. Sometimes I would get pulled to this reality then when I watch spiritual videos I feel peace with my soul again.


I kept getting more and more angel numbers, sometimes I would get angry when they do not make sense but looking back all of them made sense later, until this day sometimes when I see them I get mad and sometimes I thank the universe for all the signs. Angel numbers helped me a lot.


Getting deeper into spirituality made me realize that I have something more, I had many tarot readings and all of them said that I am a light worker, which makes a lot of sense to me. I feel responsible to bring the truth and fairness to everyone. Sometimes when I make a decision I think about the next generation I think what would it teach my nieces and nephews. I felt a lot of responsibility towards them. Some of them contacted me to tell me how I am their role model. This spiritual awakening and my nieces an nephews made me feel the responsibility that I could one day help others in a larger perspective. But I need to help myself first. If I am not in peace with who I am and my past I would never be able to help others. But I believe that I have a bigger mission than being trapped in the cooperate matrix we live in. I think this is one of the most important lessons that I learned during my spiritual awakening.

This led me to this period which I believe its dark night of the soul. Literally everything in my life fell apart, my feelings and emotions are at peak. Ran away from people to realize how many toxic patterns I was repeating in my life, how many times I allowed to be treated less and how I gave away my power too easily. The worst part was I realized than some of my own family are not good for me cutting ties with them and trying to come to peace with it still a struggle. Changing the way I behave and establishing boundaries to know what I deserve in relationships to others are still learning process for me. Like all spiritual teachers say it’s the death of the ego. I feel like everything I was everything I have done everything that I thought I know or sure off just fell apart, its like a major identity crises. I was left in this dark place to deal with it. Its just a lonely experience, I try so hard to keep reading spiritual things because they are the only things that make me feel more normal I found another spiritual teacher online and she described everything I am going through it helped to realize how its okay not to be okay. Its okay to know things can be super difficult its okay to feel high emotions and you are not crazy. My friend and family do not understand those things. going through this on your own is by far one of the worst experiences I ever had. The spiritual teacher is really helpful especially that she went through this herself. If I had the money now I would travel to get her classes in person. Now I feel the need more than ever for being around people who can really understand this new part of me, I feel the need for a spiritual place, and I feel in need to protect my emotions now. I feel like a new person is coming to the surface and I do not know how to let go of the old me. Life changes too made it more difficult my life just turned upside down. Also, my feelings are super high, I can feel everything around me, my dreams tell me things before they happen. They tell me things about what others are thinking or doing. So sometimes its hard to admit that someone you deeply care about is not a good person in your life. I feel that I cant be in any place or near anyone toxic, to the point I would move and relocate to more positive environment if I get a chance. Sometimes I complain about all the spiritual experience and I wish that I never had it, sometimes I feel I will look back at it one day to realize why it happened. Also during this time I had an astral projection, however someone told me how stop it finally just by saying a mantra before bed, it stopped for now. I do not like astral projection.


Side note, One day I was walking in the streets and two trains were passing each other, I was not paying attention to realize that there was a train on the other side so I walked on the track to cross the street and suddenly I heard a voice in my head saying my name and telling to turn my head right and look there, I turned my head and I saw the train I backed a half step, in a second or less the train passed right in front of me, I have no idea how that happened. I almost died that day.

How do I explain all this, I do not know yet

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posted October 27, 2019 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Appreciate all the replies, I am trying to understand better and those are helpful insights

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posted October 28, 2019 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

When does (or did) Transit Neptune square your Natal Neptune (with an orb of 1 degree or less)?

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posted October 28, 2019 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Neptune in Capricorn

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posted October 28, 2019 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read that they are. A spiritual awakening isn't from what I've gathered supposed to be a frolicking through the tulips sort of thing. A person would normally go through a series of highs and lows.

My own has started earlier this spring and I've also been in hermit mode for much of the duration of it. I didn't really have a dark night of the soul until months after I had my heart center awakening/ego death in May. Can't say how long this is going to last for me since I am going through a kundalini experience as well, and there's been this constant soul-sucking feeling of me wanting to scream out all this emotional baggage I've built up over the years and break free. Each day is different, but so far the general mood over the past month has been more dreary than usual. I'm aware it's a normal part of the process, so I'm trying to allow this big purging to take place when it comes.

And I totally understand how awfully lonely this can get too. We can get through this!

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posted October 28, 2019 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by moongaze:
I've read that they are. A spiritual awakening isn't from what I've gathered supposed to be a frolicking through the tulips sort of thing. A person would normally go through a series of highs and lows.

My own has started earlier this spring and I've also been in hermit mode for much of the duration of it. I didn't really have a dark night of the soul until months after I had my heart center awakening/ego death in May. Can't say how long this is going to last for me since I am going through a kundalini experience as well, and there's been this constant soul-sucking feeling of me wanting to scream out all this emotional baggage I've built up over the years and break free. Each day is different, but so far the general mood over the past month has been more dreary than usual. I'm aware it's a normal part of the process, so I'm trying to allow this big purging to take place when it comes.

And I totally understand how awfully lonely this can get too. We can get through this!


"constant soul-sucking feeling of me wanting to scream out all this emotional baggage I've built up over the years and break free"

I couldn't describe it better, I hate it. Like you can't tell whats right or wrong anymore whats real and whats not real and like you can't get over it either

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posted October 28, 2019 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Loveher:
"constant soul-sucking feeling of me wanting to scream out all this emotional baggage I've built up over the years and break free"

I couldn't describe it better, I hate it. Like you can't tell whats right or wrong anymore whats real and whats not real and like you can't get over it either


Oh my god, yes! I'm still in disbelief over some of the strange synchronicities that have taken place too. The whole thing has felt very dream-like at times.

I've been researching about spiritual awakening stuff almost obsessively for answers. Through my own observations, it appears that many have been awakening in recent years. Many people are also into spirituality, astrology, tarot, the occult, etc. It's pretty much mainstream now. Must be something in the air...definitely a paradigm shift is occurring. Whatever it is and despite the current state of the world, I think we are living in interesting times.

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posted October 31, 2019 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay.. I see that the meanings of 'spiritual' here are being applied to things without reference to mysticism and God.

Strange how language can be taken different ways.

What I've read here (for me) falls more into the parapsychology and metaphysical; as well as psychological.

I happen to have done some heavy journeying (explorations) into those topics too, in my life. Deals with consciousness.

You might want to read literature on what is called by folks into metaphysical psychology, as "spiritual crisis." I don't know if that's exactly what you're talking about, but might be worth borrowing that book from your public library system (if you have one).

These are not about religious mystical experiences, but more on the level of the inner psychological.

VERY Interesting stories here in your thread.
I'll have to come back to read this all more carefully, and really try to 'grok' what this is about.

I LOVE these kinds of topics!


This is only one book. I know that there are other books available. Also, these can be 'seen' in one's astrological transits too.

- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/638137.Spiritual_Emergency

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posted October 31, 2019 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loveher.. During these sky transits, for the next month or so, be cautious about guru teacher. If they are requiring your giving them a hefty sum of money, you might want to give that a pause.

Put on some boundaries around your being, and any 'surrender' you would want to give TO someone outside your self. You might not be seeing things for how they are.

Much Love!

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posted October 31, 2019 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Make sure to prioritize your physical needs first though, it's very easy to abandon the physical needs when one gets down this road, but you need a body to live, and the better condition it is in, the better the life will be, so yeahh, put body first, to put it simply.

Take help of therapies, cathartic techniques, and any outlets that help you get rid of the baggage, if you have an outlet for the baggage, the journey will be much much smoother. Otherwise, life will create circumstances which will help you in getting rid of them, BUT life is beyond your control, these outlets, will be within your control, and what happens when you let it solve through the circumstances is that there is a chance you will get caught up in them and simply get stuck somewhere along with other people, and its much better not to involve anyone else when it comes to these outlets in my experience, once someone else is involved, a chain will be created, and sooner or later you might forget the goal itself and just get lost somewhere down the road. So its much better to have outlets in my eyes.

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posted October 31, 2019 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Okay.. I see that the meanings of 'spiritual' here are being applied to things without reference to mysticism and God.

Strange how language can be taken different ways.

What I've read here (for me) falls more into the parapsychology and metaphysical; as well as psychological.

I happen to have done some heavy journeying (explorations) into those topics too, in my life. Deals with consciousness.

You might want to read literature on what is called by folks into metaphysical psychology, as "spiritual crisis." I don't know if that's exactly what you're talking about, but might be worth borrowing that book from your public library system (if you have one).

These are not about religious mystical experiences, but more on the level of the inner psychological.

VERY Interesting stories here in your thread.
I'll have to come back to read this all more carefully, and really try to 'grok' what this is about.

I LOVE these kinds of topics!


This is only one book. I know that there are other books available. Also, these can be 'seen' in one's astrological transits too.

- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/638137.Spiritual_Emergency


Thank you so much, I read today about it and it makes a lot of sense. Its so helpful

I do love these topics too but I did not know I will live them

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posted October 31, 2019 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Make sure to prioritize your physical needs first though, it's very easy to abandon the physical needs when one gets down this road, but you need a body to live, and the better condition it is in, the better the life will be, so yeahh, put body first, to put it simply.

Take help of therapies, cathartic techniques, and any outlets that help you get rid of the baggage, if you have an outlet for the baggage, the journey will be much much smoother. Otherwise, life will create circumstances which will help you in getting rid of them, BUT life is beyond your control, these outlets, will be within your control, and what happens when you let it solve through the circumstances is that there is a chance you will get caught up in them and simply get stuck somewhere along with other people, and its much better not to involve anyone else when it comes to these outlets in my experience, once someone else is involved, a chain will be created, and sooner or later you might forget the goal itself and just get lost somewhere down the road. So its much better to have outlets in my eyes.


I do feel this is true, my family tries to keep me in this mental prison where I do whatever they please but they do not care about who I am or what I want. Many things happened with them and I feel its the universe is trying to make me realize those toxic patterns. I emailed a place today, I feel like and it was hard to admit I do need some therapy. I need to talk about my family and my past to learn how establish healthier boundaries with my family. They should respect everything I have done and let me be myself. I swear I keep thinking about them the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep. I feel so much negativity coming to me from them. I need to learn how to handle it instead of escaping in unhealthy life style.

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