posted January 19, 2020 10:24 AM            

My Saturn return just recently kicked off, and I have definitely been feeling the effects of this.

My issue is I'm having a hard time interpreting this return with the aspect to Saturn.

I'm hoping someone who could help me figure this out!

posted January 19, 2020 02:38 PM            

I'm really trying to figure out how this affects me and what I should do to remedy it.

posted January 20, 2020 02:06 AM            

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Originally posted by IV4Four:
Hmmm maybe I pulled the wrong chart but I have Saturn conc Saturn currently.

I'm really trying to figure out how this affects me and what I should do to remedy it.

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In The spiral of Life, Joanne Wickenburg and Virginia Meyer write that "with the balsamic phase, some new ideal has to emerge in the function of transit Saturn, defined by natal Saturn, even though that ideal can only be expressed within the framework of the present or the past. The new level of consciousness flows from natal Saturn to transit Saturn, transforming it. If you are blocking its transforming activity, something inside will seem to "die" or you will become confused."

JW and VM then suggest that the degree, sign and house of natal Saturn will indicate the symbolic purpose of your Saturn cycles ... and state "your job is to throw out what is not meaningful in larger-than-personal terms and condense what is left, as a 'seed' of some new purpose in the next cycle."

posted January 20, 2020 02:34 AM            

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... the degree, sign and house of natal Saturn will indicate the symbolic purpose of your Saturn cycles

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Sabian Symbol Capricorn 26 A NATURE SPIRIT DANCING IN THE MIST OF A WATERFALL

This Symbol shows skipping lightly over the surface of life, dancing and playing. You may feel emotionally light and almost mischievous. The worries of life and the deeper parts of your feelings are ignored as you effortlessly flit over the surface of any troubles. Whilst this is, essentially, a beautiful symbol of a joy, harmony and a 'lightness of being', there may be an element of feeling cut off from your body, or reality. This can lead to a sense of alienation or difficulty in knowing where to land or evading problems by ignoring them or rising above them. Effervescent spirits. Dancing in a carefree manner. Water and fun. Peter Pan attitudes. Celebrations of the natural world. Waterfalls. Mist. Nymphs, fairies. Subtle energies.

The Caution: Irresponsibility, avoidance of real situations. Not taking anything seriously. Escapism. Moving, or flying, around. Perceptions of light. Fear of dark places. Naïve. http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/

Saturn in Capricorn are more likely to trust authority and resist going against social conventions. http://www.liveabout.com/saturn-in-capricorn-saturn-signs-207072

Saturn in 4th house encourages you to learn to nurture yourself and build a family and a comfortable home, and feel safe. ... OR, makes you feel unsafe, unwanted and all alone in the world. http://www.liveabout.com/saturn-in-fourth-house-207069

With Saturn Returning in the 12th house, the lessons are about the art of surrender (without giving up). http://www.liveabout.com/saturn-in-twelfth-house-206264

Saturn square Moon may find it difficult to break free from the past; and previous experiences will influence present choices and attitudes. http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Square-Saturn

Returned Saturn conjunct Pluto, sextile Venus and trine Moon is "a 'seed' of some new purpose in the next cycle."

posted January 20, 2020 09:23 AM            

Thanks for all this information and yes my natal is correct!