posted January 27, 2020 08:28 AM            

Composite:
Grand kite: Chiron - Jupiter - North Node - Uranus
Mystic rectangle: North node - South Node - Chiron - Uranus

Davison:
Grand Kite: Mars - Venus - Chiron - Uranus
Mystic rectangle: Pluto - Neptune - Chiron - Mars

Are they relevant or marginal?

I have these same patterns but with different planets involved. Any interpretation or advice on links/books is welcome!

posted January 28, 2020 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Sara1984:
How can I interpret two patterns in these charts?:

Composite:
Grand kite: Chiron - Jupiter - North Node - Uranus
Mystic rectangle: North node - South Node - Chiron - Uranus

Davison:
Grand Kite: Mars - Venus - Chiron - Uranus
Mystic rectangle: Pluto - Neptune - Chiron - Mars

Are they relevant or marginal?

I have these same patterns but with different planets involved. Any interpretation or advice on links/books is welcome!

Thanks

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Although we can see from the above that each kite is connected to the mystic rectangle - we cannot ascertain what the combined pattern looks like … unless you tell us the sign (or house) of all planets involved.

And … to interpret the overall pattern, we need to know both the sign and the house of all planets involved.

posted January 28, 2020 07:31 AM            

you are always really kind to help me every time

Composite:


Davison:

posted January 28, 2020 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Sara1984:
Ops .. looking better I think there isn't a kite in the Davison chart.. I don't see the contact Uranus - Mars :/

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posted January 28, 2020 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Can you please replace the Davison Chart with one having a 60% orb factor - and showing only planets, Chiron, nodes ... as that will enable us to more easily see any significant patterns.

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Here it is!

posted January 28, 2020 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

[P. Globa states that the action of an Envelope is similar to a synthetic rectangle, but at another level. For the native there is a smooth transition from struggle, a choice, break to clearing. There are opportunities for searching freely, demonstrating personal initiative, and innovating. Struggle passes smoothly into freedom. ... http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html#envelope ]

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Oh wow.. sounds good! Thanks Graham

posted January 29, 2020 01:47 AM            

1) A Uranus-Saturn-Jupiter Grand Trine, which may manifest as a Kite (for which the MC-IC provides the opposition/spine).

2) A Pluto-Moon+Sun-Mercury+Jupiter stimulation/irritation triangle

And ... because Jupiter is in both the trine/kite and the stimulation triangle ... these two figure will be activated simultaneously by progressions and transits to any of those 7 planets, the MC or/and the IC. (So, it is active whenever there is a transit or progression of 25deg43mins to 6degs33 of any two adjacent zodiac signs)

posted January 29, 2020 06:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
["the Irritation triangle. These are touchy, tetchy figures and are seen in the charts of people who are flexible, hard working, and sensitively aware. These people can often take on more than their fair share of work, but sometimes they take on too much, reach breaking point and explode. Those around them take cover until the storm passes, and then things calm down quickly as the person returns to what they were doing, feeling a whole let better having worked their angst and irritation out of their system with the outburst. http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2007/08/clint-eastwood-colour-balance-and.html ][/B]

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Okay, this is less pleasant than the previous one! Mamma mia.. That's all we needed .. the "irritation pattern" .. as if I didn't have enough problems with Saturn and Pluto already XD

I need an exorcist for these two charts.. and also for my obsession with that man.

BIG thank you as usual for your valuable help <3

posted January 29, 2020 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Sara1984:
Okay, this is less pleasant than the previous one! Mamma mia.. That's all we needed .. the "irritation pattern" .. as if I didn't have enough problems with Saturn and Pluto already XD

I need an exorcist for these two charts.. and also for my obsession with that man.

BIG thank you as usual for your valuable help <3

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You have an irritation triangle in your own natal chart, Sara ... Chiron-Jupiter-Venus/Uranus(midpoint). ... Having it in the Davison Chart indicates that the other person is here to help you with that.

posted January 29, 2020 02:18 PM            

Some things really can't be explained by logic. I have to learn the lesson.

Thanks, as always