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Topic: Bd in a couple of days,any thoughts about my solar return?? 😁
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thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 06, 2020 05:33 PM
Hello everyone,my bd is in 20 june,i was looking at my slr chart for this year. Somebody could help explain it? Thank you 😉 http://imgur.com/gallery/L9ZZdUS IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 129738 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 07, 2020 05:49 PM
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Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 08, 2020 03:42 AM
The Solar Return chart reflects "one year in the lifetime of the related natal chart owner".It can be (and often is) interpreted as a "stand-alone" chart, but is more helpful when used to identify the specific natal chart issues that will arise during the 12 months that the SR chart is "active". For that reason ... I would not spend time analysing a solar return chart without also having access to its related natal chart. So ... are you able/willing to also post your natal chart on this thread, tr95? IP: Logged |
thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 08, 2020 03:52 AM
Thank you for the reply Graham 😉👍 My natal: http://imgur.com/gallery/r5jWEH7 Natal + Slr chart 2020 : http://imgur.com/gallery/V3wYl5U IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 10, 2020 06:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by thereaper95: Thank you for the reply Graham 😉👍 My natal: http://imgur.com/gallery/r5jWEH7 Natal + Slr chart 2020 : http://imgur.com/gallery/V3wYl5U
Sorry, 95 ... I have only just seen this response by you ... and will comment on your natal+SR asap.However ... it is immediately apparent that your natal model configuration is the primary focus of this Solar Return year ... and that you will experience it through the lens of a Virgo Ascendant, rather than through that of your Leo Ascendant.
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Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 13, 2020 02:34 AM
quote: your natal model configuration is the primary focus of this Solar Return year
So ... the first step is to establish what is "promised" (for you specifically) by that natal configuration. ... And my starting point for that is the description of how it manifests generally (given by the Hubers, in Aspect Pattern Asreology) :- "It provides greater context in which experiences can be perceived and generalised. Conversely, one can conform better to general rules, agree with people or even help others to reintegrate into society. ... Usually receptive, sensitive and harmonious - the person can be hard and uncompromising; intense, demanding and capable of tolerating the stress arising from that behaviour. ... The red-green influenced planet (Sun) is alert, nervous and certainly conspicuous. If it is the tension ruler in the horoscope, it is permanently opposed by the other planets in the Model figure. This can hinder the development of those talents, because the red-green planet is always jumping headlong into new experiences. This person aspires to an ideal world; rarely lets pessimistic people bring him/her down and his/her centred persistence can give courage/hope to other people. The blue talent-triangle points outwards, and appears to become the overlaying, single-minded Yod/projection-triangle. Out of this one Dominant and one medium Learning triangle are formed - and given critical impetus by the environment. (i.e.. perception matures; becomes a goal and eventually leads to a dominant personality.)" IP: Logged |
thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 13, 2020 07:57 AM
Graham i dont know how to be thankful to you for your time and this deep analysis. During my life i sensed that peoples throw obstacles to me,like ex gaining a sense of power attacking me or criticise me for the way i behave or do things even when it is everything all right. Every year i sense that i become more mature emotionally and receptive about people.It helped me become more confident because in my younger years i was too shy.Now im not afraid anymore to show who i am and to use my power to do things without letting the others interfering. Thank you so much Graham,i appreciate that IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 13, 2020 01:01 PM
quote: Every year i sense that i become more mature emotionally and receptive about people.It helped me become more confident because in my younger years i was too shy.Now im not afraid anymore to show who i am and to use my power to do things without letting the others interfering.
The planets are currently preparing you for your First Saturn Return ... which is still some 5 years away (11:34am local time on 1st April 2025, at your place of birth) but the chart for that return will influence your life for 30 years (until the 2nd Saturn Return, in February 2055). So ... this Solar Return year is likely to be a part of that preparation. ... However, you can create a new thread to explore your First Saturn Return chart (perhaps in about 3 years time), and I will continue here with our focus on the 12 months from your 2020 birthday. IP: Logged |
thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 14, 2020 04:04 PM
With pleasure Graham,until that time comes im focused to learn the lessons and to grow as much as possible. Thank you anyway IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 18, 2020 02:13 AM
quote: your natal model configuration is the primary focus of this Solar Return year.So ... the first step is to establish what is "promised" (for you specifically) by that natal configuration. ... And my starting point for that is the description of how it manifests generally (given by the Hubers, in Aspect Pattern Asreology) :- "It provides greater context in which experiences can be perceived and generalised. Conversely, one can conform better to general rules, agree with people or even help others to reintegrate into society. ... Usually receptive, sensitive and harmonious - the person can be hard and uncompromising; intense, demanding and capable of tolerating the stress arising from that behaviour. ... The red-green influenced planet (Sun) is alert, nervous and certainly conspicuous. If it is the tension ruler in the horoscope, it is permanently opposed by the other planets in the Model figure. This can hinder the development of those talents, because the red-green planet is always jumping headlong into new experiences. This person aspires to an ideal world; rarely lets pessimistic people bring him/her down and his/her centred persistence can give courage/hope to other people. The blue talent-triangle points outwards, and appears to become the overlaying, single-minded Yod/projection-triangle. Out of this one Dominant and one medium Learning triangle are formed - and given critical impetus by the environment. (i.e.. perception matures; becomes a goal and eventually leads to a dominant personality.)"
We now need to relate this aspect pattern interpretation more specifically to you ... by considering the likely influence of the actual natal planets involved it. In your natal Model Figure, Sun is the only inner planet - and it is personalising the generational influences/"tasks" of (outer planet) Saturn plus the evolutionary planets (Neptune, Uranus and Pluto). The over-arching task was set by the April 1891 Neptune-Pluto conjunction in Gemini 8. ... That was the start of a 400 year evolutionary cycle that is moving the world towards becoming one nation/"neighbourhood". And ... within that umbrella task (of integrating the whole of humankind) ... your Capricorn Neptune/Scorpio Pluto generation is dissolving the barriers (Neptune) within the Establishment (Capricorn) created by taboos (Pluto). Moreover, within that Neptune-Pluto generation, the 7-year-group that has Uranus in Capricorn is impelled to question/challenge the status-quo. ... Whilst the 2.5 year group that has Saturn in Pisces is impelled to be "careful and compassionate" when dissolving those taboos (by questioning/challenging the status quo/Establishment). Then ... for you specifically ... these influences/"tasks" have been personalised by a communicative Gemini Sun, in the 11th house (of social interaction). And that natal model configuration (of personalised evolutionary tasks) is the primary focus of this Solar Return year. IP: Logged |
thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 20, 2020 05:09 PM
Sorry for the late response Graham Tbh i feel during this time a very karmic period,i hope that it will help me grow and be comfortable in my own skin and giving my contribution to the world for a better place. Thank youIP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 21, 2020 02:24 AM
The natal charts in your links are not identical ... as the Moon's position and house cusp degrees are not the same.So ... Is the image below correct? (It is intended to show the natal "model" configuration, on the inside - and the Solar Return Planets that are activating it. ... With both calculated for your place of birth. ... (But, on the day of the solar return, are you actually at a location other than your place of birth?) IP: Logged |
thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 21, 2020 11:19 AM
It is the same place Graham thanksIP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 22, 2020 02:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by thereaper95: It is the same place Graham thanks
So ... if we look at your Progressed Chart for (birthday) 2020 to (day before birthday) 2021 ... we see that the Ascendant therein is moving through Virgo, and Mars is moving from 26Virgo27 to 27Virgo02. ... Thus, Progressed Mars is actively focused on this natal "Model" configuration - and (by looking at the Progressed Charts for earlier and later years) we can see that this has been the case since your 2015 birthday, and will be until your birthday in 2025. And, what is natally-programmed to happen in 2025? ... Your First Saturn Return (in April). So, the focus of this current Solar Chart year will be very much upon adding the skills of Virgo to your (natural/instinctive) Leo interactions with strangers/Ascendant-contacts. ... And that will enhance your natal Saturn-in-Pisces/8th ability to be "careful and compassionate" in your interactions with everyone.
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thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 22, 2020 12:35 PM
Graham im little worried about that saturn in the 7th house of Progressed chart! Does it mean i should be careful and compassionate only with strangers? Because i sense it will bring people to my life that i have karma to deal with...ThanksIP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 23, 2020 03:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by thereaper95: Graham im little worried about that saturn in the 7th house of Progressed chart! Does it mean i should be careful and compassionate only with strangers? Because i sense it will bring people to my life that i have karma to deal with...Thanks
Saturn is in Natal 8th, Progressed 7th and SR 5th. The Solar Return Chart reveals what your natal Sun (ego) is working on in 2020/21 ... which is "adding the skills of Virgo to your (natural/instinctive) Leo interactions with strangers/Ascendant-contacts". The Progressed Chart reveals how the behaviour (sign) and focus (house) of each natal planet is being modified from year to year. Thus, your natal Sun in Gemini/11th might indicate that you were born with a natural ability to attract a large circle of friends - and it's progression through Cancer/11th might have inclined you to nurture some of those friends, which may now become an inclination to nurture "everyone" as the Sun progresses through the 12th house. In your natal chart, careful Saturn is inclined to be compassionate (Pisces) when challenging/questioning other people's values (8th). ... In progressed 7th, that instinct to be careful and compassionate will focus more upon "those with whom you have an intimate relationship". And those "intimates" may indeed be people with whom your soul has karma to deal with in the current lifetime. However ... all of these modifications are changing you from the child that entered this lifetime into an adult whom (by the time of the First Saturn Return) is able to "make a difference" in the quality of life experienced by others.
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thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 23, 2020 05:44 PM
Again thank you so much Graham I was a little worried because i restabled communication with my ex that i broke up 3 years ago and needed that information for the future with her. Thanks IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted June 24, 2020 01:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by thereaper95: Again thank you so much Graham I was a little worried because i restabled communication with my ex that i broke up 3 years ago and needed that information for the future with her. Thanks
In progressed 7th, that natal Saturn-in-Pisces instinct to be careful and compassionate will focus more upon "those with whom you have an intimate relationship". So ... the resurrection of this past intimate relationship provides an opportunity to learn how to modify your self-expression ... since you must now do something differently, or the outcome is likely to be the same as it was 3 years ago.
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thereaper95 Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Albania Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 25, 2020 02:50 AM
I just felt the change to myself a couple of months after the breakup,because in that time saturn was in sagg opposing my sun,made me more confident and good. I hope that it will have a better outcome this time.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 129738 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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