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TwinSouls2020
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posted June 30, 2020 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I’m new in the forum! I hope to get to know you all, and I look forward to learning so much from everyone.

I met somebody a few months ago. The way it started was extremely intense. I met them online, but the energy connection was nothing like I’ve experienced before. When I started talking to them, out of the blue - for a period of time - I felt heavily toxic. Pure heavy toxic energy just filled me, and I couldn’t sleep, and I was having panic attacks with heart palpitations. There was also a sense of intense obsession and as if my heart was being possessed (if that makes any sense)? I would have dreams of his activities, and the next day I would see that’s exactly what he was doing. Same thing goes with food...! I would crave for something, and it turns out he’s eating something similar. I’m not sure how he feels towards me, but he’s always been sweet and supportive when he responds to me. On my part on the other hand, I feel crazy intense attraction, inspiration and he puts my gears on high drive while inspiring me. Also, since meeting him, there’s been transformations. I have myself questioning what makes me really happy, what I’m willing to put up with, among many other things. I’ll confess too that my sex drive has been SHUT for the past couple of years. He appeared and all of a sudden, all I wanna do is... Last thing I noticed as well... we have the exact same birth mark on the same spot.

Now I don’t know how to post our charts here. But the birthdays are as follows:

July 16, 1986, 11:33am, Manila, Philippines

02/06/1992, 1:33pm, San Luis Obispo, Ca

Please help me figure out this connection...? Is it twin flames? Is it heavy karmic? If you can tell me as much as you can about our connection according to our charts, I’ll be happy to send a little something through PayPal as a thank you (if that’s allowed).

Please help!

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Randall
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posted July 01, 2020 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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TwinSouls2020
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posted July 01, 2020 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much! I hope someone can tell me some stuff in this forum... 🙏🏼 Advance Happy 4th of July to you!

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AQUACap88
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posted July 02, 2020 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUACap88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is easier if you load the chart into astro.com, take a screenshot and load it onto some websites e.g photobucket, imgur etc then copy paste the link onto here.

You might get more responses~

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TwinSouls2020
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posted July 03, 2020 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your suggestion, Aqua! The first image is our synastry chart. I’m the inner circle, he’s the outer. I’ll be posting composite and Davidson charts as well.

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TwinSouls2020
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posted July 03, 2020 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://app.photobucket.com/u/TwinSouls2020/p/687a7eca-94db-4029-9f2b-90bc7494429e

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TwinSouls2020
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posted July 03, 2020 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your suggestion Aqua! Here’s a link to our synastry. I’m the inner circle, he’s the outer. https://imgur.com/a/SlNLBKZ

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posted July 03, 2020 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is our composite chart. (Hopefully this is working... Never used photobucket or imgur before...)

https://imgur.com/a/CIXFlQh

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TwinSouls2020
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posted July 03, 2020 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this is our Davison Chart. Hope this works! 🤞🏼 https://imgur.com/a/CIXFlQh

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 03, 2020 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi and welcome TwinSouls2020.

Karma is a mixture of good and bad, so there's no use trying to categorize it wholly as good / bad. However, same birth mark on same part of body is a clue that he could be an important soul mate. So the intensity you feel may be telling you this is an important relationship -- and important to do in a balanced, healthy way. I recommend you read this Q&A (question 30) about twin flames:
http://www.kryon.com/inspiritmag/archives/Q-A%20archives/2004-Q&A/Q&A-2ndquarter04.html

This is happening within you and your feelings are your responsibility. Leave room for free will, as he may never feel the same way. A great deal of what you are experiencing now is your own Moon conjunction to Pluto. Even though it is a bit wide, it is in your 1st house area and key to the development of your personality.

There are some very good things in this synastry, but also at least one factor indicating you should expect some reluctance or resistance from him -- or some kind of delay if the relationship will develop into something:
- Your Moon is square his Mercury, Saturn, Sun.
- However, your Moon (topocentric) 16S15 is parallel his Sun 15S38.
- Your Moon is sextile his Venus, Jupiter, Uranus, N.Node.
So overall a pretty good collection of aspects as to your Moon, even with the square to Saturn in the mix.

- Your Saturn is parallel his Mercury, so you'll have a tendency to not hear him unless you really force yourself to listen fully at first and develop the habit. If you do, then this aspect can become a factor of mutual concentration and serious planning.

On his side

- His Moon is conjunct your Jupiter.

* His Moon & Pluto form a grand trine with your Sun & Jupiter: very good, and those are not wide orbs.

* There are inter-aspects with both your N.Nodes.

I haven't counted up all the aspects to see if they total mostly positive, but it looks pretty good to me. The details really lie in things like the exact Ascendants (I never assume they are accurate based on recorded times of birth), or at least yours, and how that lines up specific aspects in declination or longitude.

Understand that if it is starting out this intense it is likely to be too intense and cause friction and burnout -- unless you slow yourself down and exercise better psychic boundaries. Panic attacks with heart palpitations and the other things you describe about your heart indicate fear within you. So look for how to bring your own body-mind into balance so that you can actually see clearly how to deal with this potential relationship.

Consider a blended Bach flower remedy -- maybe Chicory plus Aspen or Mimulus or Rock Rose, maybe Red Chestnut, depending on what is appropriate as you read the descriptions:
http://www.bachcentre.com/new/en/remedies/the-38-remedies/quick-reference-guide/ The Bach Crisis Formula might even do the trick.

Also consider the homeopathic remedy Phosphorous if the romantic excitement/clairvoyance keeps creating palpitations and interruption of normal sleep and mental focus: http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/p/phos.htm It is available in most health food/herb stores in a 30c potency that will probably do the job -- if you take large enough doses and take them often enough (until no longer needed).

What is most important is that you do your best to maintain balance during this so that your perspective and decisions are appropriate for what is happening in the moment.

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TwinSouls2020
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posted July 03, 2020 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinSouls2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you SO much Kannon Mcafee! That was helpful, and I’ll be ordering those remedies this evening.

I just checked our charts again, and I didn’t realize my karma is in difficult aspects with his inner planets. Ouch...

What really got me was the intensity of the energy as well as the telepathic experience AND the exact same birthmark. I had to hear what other astrologers thought.

Yes, his moon conjuncts my Jupiter. My Venus also conjuncts his Jupiter. I thought even if my moon squared his Saturn, the above mentioned aspects helped ease the moon square Saturn. 😒

I also thought because our composite and Davidson made trines, oppositions and conjunctions with inner planets and outer planets (Saturn, Neptune and Pluto), this is definitely a soul mate and has a higher chance of coming together. And also our sun conjuncts pars of fortune in composite.

In synastry, My vertex also conjuncts his MC, juno, Eros and Valentine. His Juno makes an opposition to my aphrodite at 2 degrees.

I realize the synastry isn’t the best, but because our composite and Davison makes the intense connections, can that explain too why it was that explosive in the beginning? At least for me?

If you don’t mind me asking as well, because my moon squares his Saturn, does this mean he doesn’t appreciate me expressing my emotional nature?

I’ll be happy to send you a little something on PayPal as I’m very grateful you took the time to respond! I don’t know yet how to private message others on this forum (if possible), but feel free to let me know and privately share your PayPal with me. Thank you again!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 04, 2020 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The synastry is good as far as I'm concerned. Some squares, even one or two involving Saturn, don't change that.

There is no perfect synastry. What matters is a qualitative understanding of the challenges there. Saturn means lessons, delays, the need for patience in which you can discover tendencies you can outgrow, overcome. But the positive energies on an emotional level can help you with that. One major Saturn aspect created by his Saturn square your Moon, and one by your Saturn parallel his Mercury. Not bad. Just allow room for his need for some time and control and allow yourself the same -- but beware of the need to listen to him and consider his mindset.

If you'd like to contact me directly you can do that through my website linked in my signature.

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posted July 21, 2020 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon!

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posted August 02, 2020 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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