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BBMA14
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posted July 05, 2020 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBMA14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know with no birth time, it's not completely accurate, but, still, even without the houses and all, can anyone see anything personal in this chart?

Can you describe a man with this chart, generally, in love & pursuing love (his "type", etc)?

https://astro.cafeastrology.com/graphic.php?type=24&index=97022489&x=580&y=773&nohouses=true&dformat=0&lang=en

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Graham
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posted July 06, 2020 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The moon location in this chart is for a Universal Time of 4pm ... and (presumably) for whatever location had 0Aries00 as the ascendant degree at 4pm (UT).

Before attempting to interpret any natal chart, the astrologer needs to ascertain where the person was born and where he/she was raised as a child. (It is also useful to know where he/she has "chosen" to be residing currently.)

Moreover ... careful thought needs to be given to which chart is likely to provide the most accurate answer to the question(s) asked by the chart owner. (For example, you are seeking answers to Venus related questions ... so might it be better to use a birth time that puts Venus on the cusp of the 1st or 7th house?)

Hence ... when the birth time is unknown ... the chart owner needs to provide whatever information he/she can from the outset. ... And most people know where they were born; raised; are currently residing and why they have "chosen" to be at their current location.

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BBMA14
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posted July 06, 2020 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBMA14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
June 9th 1972 - Birthplace/Current City - Pittsburgh,PA. (Couldn't copy the full link)

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Graham
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posted July 07, 2020 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BBMA14:
June 9th 1972 - Birthplace/Current City - Pittsburgh,PA. (Couldn't copy the full link)

Ok ... So, we are looking at a noon chart - in Pittsburgh, PA (where you were born; raised and still reside).

And it is immediately apparent here that Venus is 'stressed"; because it is qcx Neptune (the planet of illusion/delusion) - and this Neptune is in a "never-let-go" 135/sesquisquare aspect with Mars and a 165/quindecile "obsession" aspect with Sun.

Moreover, Venus is in a stellium with Mercury-Sun-Saturn ... and that stellium is aspecting every planet in the chart, plus Chiron and the Nodes.

So, BBMA14 ... are you able/willing to reveal the "event story" of Venus in your current lifetime (so far)?

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BBMA14
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posted July 08, 2020 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBMA14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't my chart (thank God) it belongs to a guy I have a secret crush on. His 'Venus story': From what I have found out - He has this obsession/still in love with his former fiancee. He was pursued by a girl about 23 YEARS ago.. They became engaged, she ended it, on a good note I guess, after 2 years because they were separated by long distance. I think it really upset and tormented him, because not less than a year later the girl married another man. Well...about 3 years into her marriage, they had an affair a couple of times, but I'm guessing it was a no strings attached kind of thing (even though in his head he was probably hoping to get back together), I don't know too much about that other than they had an affair. The girl went back to her husband, became separated and a couple of years later met her soon to be 2nd husband, married him, they had a son, but her and this guy are still close friends, which makes me wonder what the woman's husband thinks about it all... I think she is deep down still in love with him, but loves & is faithful to her current husband. He on the other hand is single last I heard ( I think he has his 'flings' but it would take a marvelous miracle to make him commit to another woman, alas), He must have deep hopes that he and this woman will reunite romantically somehow (I think he lives on a kind of dead hope..) I think this man CAN move on, he just needs to initiate the changes necessary. Despite all that I know about him in that department, he is my secret crush (but I do think it pathetic how he emotionally is stuck in the past) Maybe I'm just jealous.
So, can you explain about the aspects and all in this mans chart?? I'm still an astrological beginner. Do you think that his obsession tendencies will always be there, or maybe shift in another direction.. Do you think he is hopeless in the venus department? Sorry in advance for this very long reply!

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Graham
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posted July 09, 2020 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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can you explain about the aspects and all in this mans chart?? I'm still an astrological beginner. Do you think that his obsession tendencies will always be there, or maybe shift in another direction.. Do you think he is hopeless in the venus department?

His Venus story indicates that he is likely to remain obsessed with this particular woman for the foreseeable future. ... But, that does not mean that he cannot also be obsessed with (and loyal/faithful to) another person (such as you). ... The natal chart is telling us only that obsessive Venus attachments are a part of his nature/instinctive-behaviour-patterns.

However ... like most men [but especially those with Jupiter in fall/Capricorn and opposite an already stressed Venus], he will only realise that you want a relationship if/when you actively pursue him (like "the one" did when he was 23).

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BBMA14
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posted July 09, 2020 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBMA14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he is the kind that, once the right kind of woman shows an interest in him, pursues him (in a kind of obvious/in-direct innocent way), and he can see that they are a 'good girl' type he would want to know more about, introduce to his family/friends, etc and once a relationship is established, an 'obsession' could arise, or that obsession he has for the ex will calm down/get closure on the past and shift to the other woman (starting anew)
So, while he won't marry who he has been infatuated with for so long, his obsessiveness can, will, move to the other person, me, or whoever he is meant to be with. He really wants marriage, and all that(as do I), Hopefully, whenever he IS pursued and all falls in place, whether by myself or whomever, he will pull himself out of his years long rut he has been in and find his new direction/happiness in this life!

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posted July 11, 2020 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think he is the kind that, once the right kind of woman shows an interest in him, pursues him (in a kind of obvious/in-direct innocent way), and he can see that they are a 'good girl' type he would want to know more about.......

Perhaps ... but his natal Pluto (at the anaretic degree of Libra) is also "obsessed" with his Chiron wound (in Aries/8th house of other people's values), which opposes Uranus (in Libra/2nd house of own values). ... So, he feels that other people perceive him as insignificant/"worthless" - and is likely to become obsessed with anyone who demonstrates that they do not.

Moreover, he (Uranus) values spontaneity and "off-the-wall" behaviour. ... Thus, (in my opinion) he will be "hooked" by the woman who risks her good-girl reputation to demonstrate how much she likes him.

Hence, I'd consider jumping into his arms and asking him to help you to test the theory that "the hardest thing to get off a naked woman is a naked man"? ... But, (to avoid embarrassing him), I'd refrain from doing so in the presence of a third party.

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BBMA14
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posted July 14, 2020 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBMA14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your natal tips..
I will highly consider demonstrating how much I like him, by jumping into his arms, and hooking him where it counts. However, I will be fully clothed.. Any other commentary on the natal chart of this elusive Pittsburgher?? Commence!....

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posted July 26, 2020 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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