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Chaitaly
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posted September 28, 2020 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
ahah, I couldnt wait and I did the test right away, I suspected that it would come out something "unusual", lol !! "Sostenitore".... (it sounds very Aquarian indeed!)

https://www.16personalities.com/it/personalita-infj


Uhh so you're an INFJ as well like me +.+ +.+ hellloo

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posted September 28, 2020 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Uhh so you're an INFJ as well like me +.+ +.+ hellloo

Yess, that's what I have just realized!! sista ❤️❤️❤️

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posted October 02, 2020 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sooo dear,
I'm back... with a lot of new info.... I've finally got his birth year, and it's NOT the one I had chosen ahahahah...
The good news are that..... the synastry is less intense which is good/bad depending on the point of view... some things match better.... some don't touch as before (kinda disappointed)... but overall is quite flowing.... because he and I are born the same year!! Which I hate because I think you don't really feel as much when someone is born around the same time -I mean, we grew up with those people......- anyway, the composite is a little bit more interesting maybe because the Sun has more aspects while before it was almost left untouched -aspects to the Sun make it more personal I think...- BUT I really want your opinion on this compo..... and the stellium conjunct Pluto.... I had the same stellium with my first love who was a kid in primary school and I crushed on him for 8 years (talking about people born the same year ahah XDXD).... Nothing great going on with love/fate asteroids in my opinion except for a Psyche-Eros semisquare, his Juno opp my Moon and my Juno doing something with his vertex in synastry, and eros-mars conj in compo & other minor things... well.... I leave all this here for you to dig in

I'm the inner one in the synastry. I don't have his time of birth so his houses are not correct, but I chose for him an Aqua ASC (it could be Gemini or Leo as well), beacuse he is kinda "alternative" looking but also looks younger.

synastry-compo (I think you can see both in the 1st link?) http://imgur.com/a/KgDrFOy
http://imgur.com/lsM2y4L

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posted October 02, 2020 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I pulled another version of the composite just to see if that awful Saturn-Moon opposition can disappear and, in fact, if he was born in the morning it doesn't show up, but there would be a Mars-Moon square instead; don't know which one to wish for ahah XDXD.

Here's composite 2:
http://imgur.com/a/3I65H8L

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posted October 03, 2020 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cha!! Sorry for the delay!

I think both synastry and composite are quite intense actually, regardless of his TOB/Moon which we dont know, I maybe would imagine a composite Taurus Moon cause of the "physical" matter you're involved with, but in the big picture it doesnt seem so relevant since the Moon/Mars square is too wide.

First of all, there's a strong karmic vibe in both charts, in synastry your nodes are conjunct on your axis, and his Moon is conjunct to your Vertex. The nodes on the axis are usually a sign that the meeting is destined, maybe for an higher purpose, either way you both could feel an instant attraction or familiar feeling. His Moon on your Vertex in your 8th house but quincunx to your ASC and Sun/Uranus makes me wonder whether you have a subconscious impact emotionally to him but which he maybe can't clearly frame or whether you appear kind of "new" unusual personality for him which he usually doesnt relate too much but with a push and pull feeling of attraction... The Pluto-Venus conjunction and the Jupiter/Jupiter-Mars are quite powerful, especially cause they are in trine, this looks like a very dynamic/active and inspiring/stimulating relationship and suggests a strong potential compatibility, harmony and chemistry! Your Juno/Neptune on his Neptune opposite your Lilith signals a deep infatuation and idealization, this looks hugely "dreaming" and romantic... His Saturn/Juno is conjunct your Mercury, opposite your Moon and square to his Vertex... this could signal a strong compatibility for long term, or that this connection is there for a strong purpose...

In the Composite chart, the stellium trine to Jupiter and Vertex signals again a strong potential and compatibility which can feel "fated"... with Vertex trine Mercury, you can likely understand each other right away. Chiron forms a Grand Kite with the Nodes and Mars Eros so this looks like a karma of healing, with Chiron square Jupiter, there could be a constant exchange or need to gain awareness in order to understand the common direction and the other's intentions, this looks like helping both getting closer since Chiron is opposite Juno/Uranus, so there's a desire to know each other more and find out your differences versus what can bring you together... With Moon opposite Saturn there's again a strong potential for committment, or at least a pull to this direction. But especially the Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct North Node! In addition to the Juno aspects, this really looks like a potentially strongly binding long term relationship or even marriage..... Mars/Eros square to Sun/Venus is another element of chemistry between two different personalities attracting each other, with Eros involved I think this attraction can trigger quite deep feelings and sexual intimacy...
The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is sextile Saturn and square to Pluto/Ceres/Mercury... this is very favourable for a committed long term relationship but containing some kind of conflict in individual goals or differences in the way you experience intimacy or your individual life path, life vision, not exactly an unstable trait but which could trigger a push and pull dynamic in your exchange or intimacy...
There's also this Magic Rectangle involving the Nodes, Chiron, Uranus, with the Mars/Eros on the bottom forming the grand trine with south node and chiron... this is a very special energy and mind connection strongly giving purpose to your union and a constant enrichment in your exchanges, here you could feel to actually ride the same wave somehow...
The only strong unstable trait I see here is the Jupiter/Uranus square. We dont have the axis so we cannot see Saturn or Neptune aspects to MC/IC or ASC/DSC for a long term prediciton, but Jupiter square Uranus is usually a divisive trait bringing instability, break up, divorce, or signiling something temporary which might have a beginning and a end, regardless of how long it lasts... it's not impossible to overcome this if there are other strong elements of long term so this could be better checked as soon as we have his TOB, and so Vertex would also be explored for the real possibility of establishing a relationship... in any case, Jupiter/Uranus can bring ups and downs or basic element of differences between the two people...
My overall feeling though is that this has a great potential and that there are strong elements for mutual attraction and feelings and shared interests/purposes/goals!

😍

Looking at transits... the node has passed through Composite Lilith, this could be when your interest for this person started... it is heading to Chiron, triggering all Chiron aspects, I believe that this will be likely the moment when something significant might happen between you two. this is happening by the end of the year or at early next year. It is a bit a question mark cause meanwhile transiting south node will be on Juno square to Jupiter trine the Node... this looks surprising or out of the blue, but it could either be the start or the end, either way bringing an awareness about your relationship nature. The fact is that this nodal transit will trigger a lot of powerful astral energy cause with Chiron/Juno opposition triggered, composite nodes and Eros/Mars are also involved...

I have a question... how much do you personally know him? Do you know if he's in another relationship or is he "available"...?

I know it's not easy to find out his TOB if you're not close enough yet, but in case you find out let me know!

❤️❤️❤️

...is it OK if I ask you another tarot question about J ?

I'm wondering a lot about the nodal transit that we are having right at this moment, with North Node conjunct to Composite South Node sextile Venus... obviously nothing is happening since we're not even in contact, but I would like to ask the cards if they could give an idea about this nodal transit (nodal transits have always had a big impact in our meetings!)... I feel this transit a lot 'cause I have started to think and dream of him again, feeling our otherwordly connection again... so I would also ask, does he feel it too? Does he think of me, does he feel the connection somehow, at this time?

Of course only if you feel like doing it ❤️

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posted October 03, 2020 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUACap88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I join? LOL.

I want to help Stoika too~~ //feeling left out

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posted October 04, 2020 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey AQUACap88!!! ❤️

Of course you can join :-D

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posted October 04, 2020 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUACap88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay~! What question do you have for me? 💓💓

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posted October 04, 2020 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow, thanks a lot for your help, and let me know what I can do for you !!

Ok, I'll ask a different question from the one I asked to Cha, is it OK?

I'd like to know what J thinks of me, what kind of idea he has about me as a person/woman/artist, and if he wishes to meet me again :-)

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posted October 04, 2020 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Stoika what do you think if I copy and paste the charts and your interpretation in Interpersonal astrology?
So I can go on with the tarot readings with you and Aqua here. :>

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posted October 04, 2020 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Cha!! Sorry for the delay!


❤️❤️❤️

...is it OK if I ask you another tarot question about J ?

I'm wondering a lot about the nodal transit that we are having right at this moment, with North Node conjunct to Composite South Node sextile Venus... obviously nothing is happening since we're not even in contact, but I would like to ask the cards if they could give an idea about this nodal transit (nodal transits have always had a big impact in your meetings!)... I feel this transit a lot 'cause I have started to think and dream of him again, feeling our otherwordly connection again... so I would also ask, does he feel it too? Does he think of me, does he feel the connection somehow, at this time?

Of course only if you feel like doing it ❤️


Ok Darling, I think I'm picking strongly again the longing and sorrow you're probably feeling:

Queen of coins-3 of coins-5 of wands-3 of swords

He is really focused on his home life and comfort at the moment, the first 2 cards speak more of economic concerns or relocating to build something new; he may have a new home and work projects to focus on; the last 2 cards speak of desires left unsatisfied for you, but what may seem a sacrifice at the moment is still worth to avoid further pain; the overall meaning of the transit is 3 of swords, for some reason it is reawakening some pain, with 3 of cups at the bottom of the deck the 3rd party situation or the presence of someone else is always an underlying concern.
Some cards are very similar to the previous reading.

I've decided to pull other 3 cards to investigate the meaning of the transit for you on a personal level:
Page of wands-Temperance-Nine of wands

The cards are suggesting you may take charge of your destiny in a creative way at the present moment; having to do with the "situationship" with this man, they point to the need to think about where it is going, and if you're happy with your love life now. If not, 9 of wands in the last position indicates the need for a change; with Temperance card, a major arcana (that relates to SAGITTARIUS) and the fiery page taking action towards it, it's time to seek the higher truth, level up, avoid conflict and drama and really start to feel balanced and empowered.

(it doesnt' mean you have to let go of him, just really step into your own power)

Hope it helps :>:>
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posted October 04, 2020 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again darling, big THANK YOU! ❤️

I feel you see the truth! First of all, I'm sure enough his concerns are focused on new work plans directions at this moment. The other things you say are obviously there! So basically the thought about me doesnt cross his mind not even for a second, ahahahh

the second part of your reading is also spot on, I think, I do feel this urgence to level up and via creativity, I mean I am aware this is what I should do, but there are other obstacles/issues at this moment hindering my mind to properly focus on this... so yes, I feel the need to do this, but I also feel I'm not "into" it with the right state of mind....

I was actually mainly wondering whether the reverse nodal transit to composte nodes would suggest/announce a turning page, a change of the situation, whatever it is, maybe what you say is the change coming, I dont know... I have noticed that, at least in my case, nodal transits take some time before impacting the situation... for exemple, last time I met him, transiting nodes were exactly square to Composite Sun about one month before, and transiting Sun was conjunct to Composite North Node few days before, not that same day... but it seems that any time there was a further step in our relationship, a significant nodal transit was there, that's why I am wondering about this one which looks so strong!

Yes, you did well to post in the interpersonal forum so we can focus on your charts in there! I have just replied!

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posted October 04, 2020 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUACap88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stoika, I will do your reading tomorrow after my exams or the morning after tomorrow if I’m too tired.

I don’t have any problems right now in my life (LOL) so I’ll reserve the reading from you for future use ok? Haha
I just wanted to join in the fun and help out a friend~ ✨

I’m trying my absolute best not to read anything you have written to Chai so I wouldn’t form any preconceptions and affect the reading. But if I have any confusion during the reading, I will refer to the things you typed for clarification ok? 💓💓
Or else I’d rather not >.<

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posted October 04, 2020 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
take your time dear Aqua sister!! and good luck for your exams!!

Whenever you need my help for any chart reading or transits just let me know!
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Of course, you can read the thread for clarification or just ask me :-)

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posted October 06, 2020 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUACap88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh, wow, thanks a lot for your help, and let me know what I can do for you !!

Ok, I'll ask a different question from the one I asked to Cha, is it OK?

I'd like to know what J thinks of me, what kind of idea he has about me as a person/woman/artist, and if he wishes to meet me again :-)



Uhm... for your first question of what does J think of you
I got 9 of wands. I think he is cautious, afraid and weary. Possibility of paranoia and unhealthy drama. Its further clarified by 5 of pentacles which hints at poverty then clarified by the chariot suggesting he is extremely guarded and protective of himself.

Honestly I have never gotten such cards for a love reading before.

Anyhow my interpretation from the card is that he is guarded and paranoid, there is something he needs to protect with that being where his comfort is hence he is unlikely to start anything with you in fear of a 5 of pentacles situation occurring. I read online that the Chariot also shows up as a reminder that the querent (J) does not need his partner (you) to feel happy and can survive without you.

These are all terrible cards, I'm actually confused.

For your second question, if he wants to see you again, I got page of swords. I think it suggests that the people around him is unlikely to help you, likely to advise him against meeting you, gossip/backstab you and generally show their disapproval of the relationship to him. There will also be petty arguments and resentment (or maybe there already is).
So in conclusion, no I do not think he wants to see you again.

(I feel like crying cuz idk why I drew such cards but it against my personal rule of drawing cards again for the same question... T_T)

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posted October 06, 2020 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was also thinking Stoika, back to the 3 of swords in outcome position, that this can be really a time for you to heal (not to indulge in pain or sorrow), to cut through the situation and stop the overthinking (that sword cards often represent). It can be a wonderful time or opportunity for you if you step into more positive energies, healing that precious heart of yours (I wonder is your natal Chiron currently touched by the transits?). Sometimes I see the 3 of sword as a lesson, having integrated that lesson, you can move on and level up. Definitely if your creativity/energy is blocked you should find a way to unblock that, do some energetic work, re-balancing.
Really pouring out the right amount of energy so as not to feel depleted; putting energy in creative endeavors instead of wasting it in sorrow. Wouldn't it be wonderful?

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posted October 06, 2020 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Uhm... for your first question of what does J think of you
I got 9 of wands. I think he is cautious, afraid and weary. Possibility of paranoia and unhealthy drama. Its further clarified by 5 of pentacles which hints at poverty then clarified by the chariot suggesting he is extremely guarded and protective of himself.

Honestly I have never gotten such cards for a love reading before.

Anyhow my interpretation from the card is that he is guarded and paranoid, there is something he needs to protect with that being where his comfort is hence he is unlikely to start anything with you in fear of a 5 of pentacles situation occurring. I read online that the Chariot also shows up as a reminder that the querent (J) does not need his partner (you) to feel happy and can survive without you.

These are all terrible cards, I'm actually confused.

For your second question, if he wants to see you again, I got page of swords. I think it suggests that the people around him is unlikely to help you, likely to advise him against meeting you, gossip/backstab you and generally show their disapproval of the relationship to him. There will also be petty arguments and resentment (or maybe there already is).
So in conclusion, no I do not think he wants to see you again.

(I feel like crying cuz idk why I drew such cards but it against my personal rule of drawing cards again for the same question... T_T)


Hi Aqua, first of all thanks so much for the reading and all your caring ❤️

I think it's true that "he is cautious, afraid and weary". Dont know about being even "paranoid", I mean it would surprise me since last time we met he was the one who took all his time to talk to me in such lovely way while ignoring all his friends who were at the place, and asked a lot of questions about how I was doing, about my book, my life, etc., and asked my opinion about stuff... so I mean, if he was paranoid about me I dont think he would have acted that way, especially cause his wife was there... so this takes me to the page of swords card and the arguments you have seen. He's married and I dont think his wife is happy about having me around him, and this is likely the reason why he didnt want to talk to me anymore (before our last meeting at this public event)... to sum it up, I think your cards might show that he's cautious and weary cause he's married and doesnt want troubles with his wife. At least this is my own interpretation with the context. Even so, it seems the cards dont say what he thinks of me, I mean if he appreciates me artistically, intellectually or whatever... or maybe he doesnt have a clear idea of me, this is also possible.
Of course, if it's true that he doesnt want to meet me again at all, this would make me obviously sad, but just cause he didnt seem like this when he met me, all the contrary actually. so maybe the only reason I can think about is that he had arguments with his wife cause of me, which is what also Todd has seen in our meeting multicomposite!

Big thank you! ❤️

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posted October 06, 2020 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was also thinking Stoika, back to the 3 of swords in outcome position, that this can be really a time for you to heal (not to indulge in pain or sorrow), to cut through the situation and stop the overthinking (that sword cards often represent). It can be a wonderful time or opportunity for you if you step into more positive energies, healing that precious heart of yours (I wonder is your natal Chiron currently touched by the transits?). Sometimes I see the 3 of sword as a lesson, having integrated that lesson, you can move on and level up. Definitely if your creativity/energy is blocked you should find a way to unblock that, do some energetic work, re-balancing.
Really pouring out the right amount of energy so as not to feel depleted; putting energy in creative endeavors instead of wasting it in sorrow. Wouldn't it be wonderful?

Cha


Dear Cha! My creativity isnt actually blocked on its own, nor by my love for him (on the contrary, he has actually always inspired me), but "hindered" by other issues (health and family issues)... I know what you mean, and I am not overthinking (at least not as much as I did until last year) but I strongly feel this "karma" with him and whatever purpose it brings is not over yet, and for a series of reasons... one of the reasons is that I am almost done with the 565 pages translation of my book into english which he asked to have as soon as I would be done. I didnt do it for him, but for international publication, but knowing that he wants to have it and that this could be a reason to meet again and talk was certainly a big motivation to make the huge work... then, our weird otherworldly synchronicities are still "haunting" me against my will, so I believe this is another sign giving me the feeling that something more has yet to come... by the way, yes, I am at least trying to detach from the "hopeless" and hurting feelings. Chiron was exactly conjunct my natal Chiron and square transiting nodes when I met him again :-)

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posted October 07, 2020 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Chaitaly, just a clarification... when you wrote (in your last reading):

"the last 2 cards speak of desires left unsatisfied for you, but what may seem a sacrifice at the moment is still worth to avoid further pain"

...were you talking about him, being HIS desires left unsatisfied, or mine? (at first reading, I thought you meant my desires, but now re-reading I am having this doubt!)

...if so, if you read the cards only thinking about how the nodal transit to composite is affecting him at this moment, whether he feels the connection, how would you read the 3 of swords and 3 of cups? you said this would reawaken some pain and that there's concern for the "presence of someone else"... you mean that this nodal transit could reawaken his desires left unsatisfied but with the awareness (or sorrow?) that he has to let it go (clearly for his actual reality with his wife) ?

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posted October 07, 2020 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUACap88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Aqua, first of all thanks so much for the reading and all your caring ❤️

I think it's true that "he is cautious, afraid and weary". Dont know about being even "paranoid", I mean it would surprise me since last time we met he was the one who took all his time to talk to me in such lovely way while ignoring all his friends who were at the place, and asked a lot of questions about how I was doing, about my book, my life, etc., and asked my opinion about stuff... so I mean, if he was paranoid about me I dont think he would have acted that way, especially cause his wife was there... so this takes me to the page of swords card and the arguments you have seen. He's married and I dont think his wife is happy about having me around him, and this is likely the reason why he didnt want to talk to me anymore (before our last meeting at this public event)... to sum it up, I think your cards might show that he's cautious and weary cause he's married and doesnt want troubles with his wife. At least this is my own interpretation with the context. Even so, it seems the cards dont say what he thinks of me, I mean if he appreciates me artistically, intellectually or whatever... or maybe he doesnt have a clear idea of me, this is also possible.
Of course, if it's true that he doesnt want to meet me again at all, this would make me obviously sad, but just cause he didnt seem like this when he met me, all the contrary actually. so maybe the only reason I can think about is that he had arguments with his wife cause of me, which is what also Todd has seen in our meeting multicomposite!

Big thank you! ❤️


Hi Stoika, thanks for the details, I didn't know he is married. I guess that explains a lot.

Even though I asked the cards your questions, my cards instead answered me like so. In my opinion, I think he is too afraid to think of anything else. For instance, have you ever been too afraid to associate with someone due to possible repercussions hence you do not bother yourself with thinking about the good qualities of said person or potential benefits? Maybe "afraid" is the wrong word. More like, associating the person with the word "trouble" or "unpleasant scenarios unbeneficial to you"

Say for instance you had a teacher whom all the other kids in class hate. Even though you can tell that the teacher is good, you join in with the hate and over time genuinely begin to hate since you only focus on the "not good". I believe he probably thought of you quite well during the meeting but not anymore afterwards.

If his wife was there and aware of his behavior, then I believe this is something he does frequently and to different people hence I urge you not to overthink. It could just be his personality/character and way of interacting with people/networking. The paranoia could be him being afraid of getting into more trouble with his wife over this/over the way he interact with people.

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posted October 07, 2020 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lovely, thank you for your further comments!

Yes, I understand what you mean. But if I was afraid of someone cause of possible trouble, lets say, with my husband, that would be cause I'm emotionally involved with this person... if I am indifferent to the person, I wouldnt have reasons to fear anything (but maybe cause I am Aqua :-D )... the fact is that nothing ever happened with this person, and he doesnt even know that I am madly in love with him since 4 years, I dont think I have ever showed him, 'cept for the fact that our conversations are always very "intense" and that I "felt" a certain partcular "attention" from his part (to say this straight, I think he has unsaid feelings too, but I just cant say for sure) so this all puzzles me greatly.
Yes, he's used to talk to people cause he's a public person, and his wife is used to this as well. So if true that he's "cautious" with me, his fears would puzzle me even more... btw what you say makes sense.

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posted October 07, 2020 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Dear Chaitaly, just a clarification... when you wrote (in your last reading):

"the last 2 cards speak of desires left unsatisfied for you, but what may seem a sacrifice at the moment is still worth to avoid further pain"

...were you talking about him, being HIS desires left unsatisfied, or mine? (at first reading, I thought you meant my desires, but now re-reading I am having this doubt!)

...if so, if you read the cards only thinking about how the nodal transit to composite is affecting him at this moment, whether he feels the connection, how would you read the 3 of swords and 3 of cups? you said this would reawaken some pain and that there's concern for the "presence of someone else"... you mean that this nodal transit could reawaken his desires left unsatisfied but with the awareness (or sorrow?) that he has to let it go (clearly for his actual reality with his wife) ?


It was about your desires, you read it right; what the cards tell in this case is that even what is causing pain for you now (separation, not knowing a lot of things, what he thinks of you, his wife, etc.) is in reality a "sacrifice" or something you are "losing" only from a narrow point of view, while this same experience can be empowering if you use it for your own benefit, I mean going past and seeing past the pain, to understand what makes you empowered in a love relationship; also, this separation is avoiding further problems, since the situation is not that "rosy", so what seems to be a problem may actually be for a higher benefit (not causing problems to him and his wife, him not causing problems to you, you having more confusion...); that's what I get from this reading. Just feel empowered, it's the message and lesson, because it can be that for how things actually are, you have your life right -and this doesn't mean to suppress the feelings for this man, just to see that having your desired met, fulfilled, would bring further pain if you think about it.

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posted October 07, 2020 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Dear Chaitaly, just a clarification... when you wrote (in your last reading):

"the last 2 cards speak of desires left unsatisfied for you, but what may seem a sacrifice at the moment is still worth to avoid further pain"

...were you talking about him, being HIS desires left unsatisfied, or mine? (at first reading, I thought you meant my desires, but now re-reading I am having this doubt!)

...if so, if you read the cards only thinking about how the nodal transit to composite is affecting him at this moment, whether he feels the connection, how would you read the 3 of swords and 3 of cups? you said this would reawaken some pain and that there's concern for the "presence of someone else"... you mean that this nodal transit could reawaken his desires left unsatisfied but with the awareness (or sorrow?) that he has to let it go (clearly for his actual reality with his wife) ?


It was about your desires, you read it right; what the cards tell in this case is that even what is causing pain for you now (separation, not knowing a lot of things, what he thinks of you, his wife, etc.) is in reality a "sacrifice" or something you are "losing" only from a narrow point of view, while this same experience can be empowering if you use it for your own benefit, I mean going past and seeing past the pain, to understand what makes you empowered in a love relationship; also, this separation is avoiding further problems, since the situation is not that "rosy", so what seems to be a problem may actually be for a higher benefit (not causing problems to him and his wife, him not causing problems to you, you having more confusion...); that's what I get from this reading. Just feel empowered, it's the message and lesson, because it can be that for how things actually are, you have your life right -and this doesn't mean to suppress the feelings for this man, just to see that having your desired met, fulfilled, would bring further pain if you think about it.

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Dear Stoika, in these days I would like to try a new reading if you allow me, it's a new spread that I would like to try, that is made to see what a person really feels and thinks underneath the surface -so also unconscious behavior versus what he thinks he's doing.
I could try to do it in these days and would be more in-depth than a 3 cards spread.

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posted October 07, 2020 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chaitaly:

Dear Stoika, in these days I would like to try a new reading if you allow me, it's a new spread that I would like to try, that is made to see what a person really feels and thinks underneath the surface -so also unconscious behavior versus what he thinks he's doing.
I could try to do it in these days and would be more in-depth than a 3 cards spread.

Cha


Thank you darling! Of course I would love this, sounds so interesting :-)

I was asking you the clarification cause the nodal transit is to Composite, not my natal, so I am wondering how he would be affected by this also, not just me... as for me, I understand what you mean, but I can't really see how I can be empowered by something that I feel to be completely unresolved between us... what could empower me I have already done with my creativity et all, and it did, but this feeling of unresolved situation and the feeling of "unfair destiny" doesnt change, and I dont think my powerlessness about this can change until I have clearer answers about what happened, I mean between us, not just within myself which I am already aware of.
Somehow, I was always aware that if my desires were met, things would be a mess, even when he didnt know his actual wife yet, cause I have serious health issues, and we live in different countries... so I mean that what you say it's true, things wouldnt be so easy in any case even if he had been ready to marry me :-D
What I wanna say here is that I dont expect anything from him since long time, I dont dream to be in a rs with him or that he declares my love to me :-) ...My desire is to have the possibility to stay in contact, to meet him again and talk, hear how he's doing sometimes... I know it sounds silly, but this connection is very important to me and it's not only about "romantic love"... I dont know what it is, but it's something else.

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