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posted January 30, 2021 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey girl so this is the composite and synastry of L and I. I've attached the chart of H and I and even her brother for reference. Thank you!

L and I:

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Ali's and I:

Synastry:

Composite:


H and I:

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posted January 31, 2021 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I pulled new cards for you! I think these ones give more clarification.

The first two cards showing up are WHEEL OF FORTUNE and ACE OF CUPS. It seems L feels a strong connection with you, maybe even on a karmic level, somehow fated. The wheel and the Ace of Cups also add some insecurity as for feelings, they are strong even though maybe not clearly defined.
Then, King of Pentacles Reversed and the Tower reversed came out... This suggests she's happy with what your friendship offers and with the Tower reversed I think that there could actually be some kind of attraction lurking on another level but she's suppressing again as it wouldnt be approrpiate to her own ethics and whatever it is about she's keeping it inward, so again there's a sense of bottling up here. The last card is the SUN, so I would say that her feelings are innocent and that she enjoys your connection as it is and wants it to be expressed as true affection and nothing more :-)

PS: with your Sag Mars and Venus in Aries... yes, I would suggest you an Aries or Leo Mars. I, with my Aries Mars, have found my best lovers in those areas, eheh! [/B]


We do have a very fated connection, we talk about it all the time. Some more info, so when I was dealing with H, her and I were in no contact but she ended up coming back into my life when I needed someone the most (ending of the connection with H) and she was the perfect person to help me. And now our friendship is so much more deeper and easier for us both when before I think she got burnt out by our friendship because she wasn't used to speaking to someone every single day for as long as she did. We had a kind of falling out but it wasn't clear like it wasn't a proper fight but just distancing (mars in 12th in composite). She was very much attached to me first and then slowly I became as well. Like she'd always joke around that I was like her boyfriend or when we had our mini disagreements in the past, she was upset like she was breaking up with her boyfriend. I just took it as like we're just very close more than anything but idk it just made me wonder but I think it would be easier if nothing happened romantically as that would complicate things majorly. We're basically bonded as sisters now so I think that's for the best.

Anddddddddddddddd about the suggestion, I agree. The thing is Leo Mars irritates me to another level. My dad has it and we literally push each others buttons so much. Very prideful and in your face so I'm like byeeeeeeeeeee. I find Sag Mars guys dreamy in a way, it's happened two times already but they've been guys closer to my age. I just haven't found an Aries Mars guy like ughhh like I don't think I've met one yet. That's why I'm like *heart-eyes* with your Aries Mars because that's greattttt. I know I don't like water mars for sure in a romantic sense but idk why they flock to me.

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posted January 31, 2021 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here I am!!

Yes, a karmic element is present in both synastry and composite with L. In synastry, it is mainly shown by your nodes conjunct to her ASC/DSC. This is maybe why she was supposed to support you in finding a new perspective in life after your break-up. Her Jupiter is apparently conjunct to your South Node/Chiron-Mars midpoint sextile to her Venus, so she likely helped your letting go from a past wound. She looks like having an "otherworldly" energy or a strong spiritual element cause her Nodes on her axis are square her Sun/Neptune conjunction. This is a quite peculiar trait especially for a Capricorn Sun, it seems she has a strong karma in finding her lfe direction and true identity, almost like a spiritual mission in her life, but at the same time with Sun/Neptune in 1st house square MC/Node she may actually have difficulty in establishing and acknowledging her "true self", a pretty uncomfortable feeling of being "out of place" somehow in this world and therefore looking for healing in a more spiritual or humanitarian direction. So she may also feel a urge or mission in helping others. Her Sun/Npetune is trine to your Sun, your Saturn is trine to her Mercury and your Neptune is conjunct to her Mars, so there's a clear mutual exchange and support and feeling of being on the same page at "soul" level somehow. With these aspects, she seems to find a trustful person with whom she can feel true to herself and somehow fulfill her natural inclination for compassion and understanding. At the same time, she feels you help her to find her direction and sense of identity. With her Moon square to your Neptune there's also a strong idealization. It looks like a beautiful exchange at inner level. There are few other aspects which signal a much less stable connection on a more grounded level, such as Veuns conjunct Uranus square your Saturn, your Jupiter/mercury square her Saturn, so this shows that this friendship can have ups and downs and periods of detachment.

In the Composite, the Sun/Venus conjunction and widely conjunct to Jupiter clearly signals a loving connection, which can be related to friendship, and with Jupiter a strong sense of loyality and opening up to each other. Moon is trine to Saturn/Lilith showing true affection and emotional exchange. The Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct to Uranus in Aqua which clearly shows true affectionate friendship and with Uranus sextile to Mercury a mutual understanding and feeling on the same page at communication level. South Node is conjunct to the Venus/Uranus midpoint. This gives depth and a soulmate/karmic/psychic vibe to the connection, but it can also signal that there could be an underlying instability or simply that you are very independent from each other. This aspects could also signal that there may be potential abrupt periods of separation and detachment.
There is also another aspect typically "short term" which is Neptune square to Saturn, involving lilith... here lilith adds a weird dark trait though. Maybe there are unconscious elements preventing to see the real nature and direction of the connection. It looks very spirirtual again, but Lilith leaves a deep sense of unknown, as if it's not easy to clearly grab the other's personality on a deeper level or more grounded level.
The Mars/Venus midpoint is square to Chiron/MC, this would rule out that your connection is based on a romantic dynamic, even though there could be a sense of special intimacy on other levels. My main concern is that the Moon/Saturn midpoint is conjunct South Node. This is a very karmic aspect which may signal a lesson about separation or impossibility to openly express each other's feelings. Since Neptune is square to Lilith almost exact, I would suspect that there could actually be a hidden, unconscious dynamic linked to sexual attraction, which is unexpressed, maybe there's not even awareness as it looks quite buried at subconscious level, but the Moon/Saturn midpoint conjunct South Node may suggest that this is what will stay unsolved. Alternatively, the Moon/Saturn midpoint can also suggest that this connection won't last for a lifetime but that it may be temporary. In any case, it's sign of a very deep and karmic emotional dimension potentially coming from past life or another dimension. (I can't see Composite Vertex and I'd be curious to check its placement).

Your ex was also a Capricorn Sun and with his neptune trine to your Saturn, so maybe that's why she reminds you of him. But it obviously looks much more binding at romantic level and the Composite dynamic looks different, even though here you have a strong break-up aspect such as Uranus square Jupiter-Saturn on IC. This was also a very karmic connection with the Composite nodes on the axis, but also a clearly strong romantic dynamic with Mars conjunct Neptune and the Mars/Venus midpoint conjunct Neptune, let alone Moon conjunct Sun. The Moon/Jupiter-Saturn midpoint is trine to Chiron, giving a very intense intimacy, and square to the Nodes/ASC-DSC, looking extremely fated and likely feeling like soulmates. But this same square to DSC/node, as much as the Uranus/Jupiter-Saturn square, looks like it was destined to end....

Your Composite with Ali is also very interesting, because you have the Nodes on the axis as well here, and so it looks very karmic again, with the Sun also conjunct to DSC/North Node. It doesn't look romantic though, because Venus is quincunx Neptune and the Mars/Venus midpoint is square Saturn. With Jupiter opposite Moon/Pluto it seems there's not much harmony with him, and Neptune is opposite Mercury, so likely you don't get along so well and you may not trust him at all (Neptune quincunx Venus)... Nessus is opposite Venus and square to Juno, this looks like a strong negative vibe between you two... even so, there's an aspect about attraction which is Eris in exact trine to Chiron and square Sun/DSC.... since Mercury is trine to Eros/Juno, he likely thinks of you as sexually attractive. In any case, with North Node conjunct DSC quincunx to Moon, there is a fated element. Since Moon/Chiron is in eleven house, maybe he was meant to be your connection to L. Or maybe there's an unsolved karma between you two. with Nessus in 12th house square Juno it doesn't look like a good karma or past life connection.

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posted January 31, 2021 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heyyyy, first of all, I would like to say I absolutely love you for the detailed post. This was extremely insightful and there's so much to comment on and discuss with you. Let's get into it

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Yes, a karmic element is present in both synastry and composite with L. In synastry, it is mainly shown by your nodes conjunct to her ASC/DSC. This is maybe why she was supposed to support you in finding a new perspective in life after your break-up. Her Jupiter is apparently conjunct to your South Node/Chiron-Mars midpoint sextile to her Venus, so she likely helped your letting go from a past wound. She looks like having an "otherworldly" energy or a strong spiritual element cause her Nodes on her axis are square her Sun/Neptune conjunction. This is a quite peculiar trait especially for a Capricorn Sun, it seems she has a strong karma in finding her lfe direction and true identity, almost like a spiritual mission in her life, but at the same time with Sun/Neptune in 1st house square MC/Node she may actually have difficulty in establishing and acknowledging her "true self", a pretty uncomfortable feeling of being "out of place" somehow in this world and therefore looking for healing in a more spiritual or humanitarian direction. So she may also feel a urge or mission in helping others. Her Sun/Npetune is trine to your Sun, your Saturn is trine to her Mercury and your Neptune is conjunct to her Mars, so there's a clear mutual exchange and support and feeling of being on the same page at "soul" level somehow. With these aspects, she seems to find a trustful person with whom she can feel true to herself and somehow fulfill her natural inclination for compassion and understanding. At the same time, she feels you help her to find her direction and sense of identity. With her Moon square to your Neptune there's also a strong idealization. It looks like a beautiful exchange at inner level. There are few other aspects which signal a much less stable connection on a more grounded level, such as Veuns conjunct Uranus square your Saturn, your Jupiter/mercury square her Saturn, so this shows that this friendship can have ups and downs and periods of detachment.

Okay so I don't know if I've mentioned this before but we actually met on the 15th Dec 2019, we were very active in our friendship (speaking everyday etc) but we didn't get to that deep level like she didn't know a lot about the 'sexual' side of me and my relationships. The relationship was deep but very centered around spirituality, our relationships with family etc etc. We actually had a small argument like it was a little thing but it ended up harming our friendship and we distanced majorly. I was basically done with it because it's like she ghosted. However, the time she came back. She had real reasons for being MIA and I was so caught up with my current relationship that I didn't really care about what happened in the past because I was just in a different head space. And I see her coming back as a sign that she was meant to help me in this moment. The situation with H happened around October and we got talking again properly then.

What you said about the comments on her chart is VERY interesting. I did not think of that nor did I pick up on that. She does have a spiritual mission in life which is something I highlight often. She does help others like so so so much. She has a big heart. We do have major rapport and understanding whereas before there was a layer where we just didn't go to.

The unstable aspects are true. Like I mentioned before and it would've been something I did not tolerate and that's why I had just been done with the friendship but due to recent events, I have realised that she loves me regardless and I'm no longer threatened by distance hence why it works.

Question: Her moon square my venus, who feels it more? That idealization is real too, felt that so much in the beginning hence why it put pressure on our friendship but I don't feel like that anymore.

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In the Composite, the Sun/Venus conjunction and widely conjunct to Jupiter clearly signals a loving connection, which can be related to friendship, and with Jupiter a strong sense of loyality and opening up to each other. Moon is trine to Saturn/Lilith showing true affection and emotional exchange. The Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct to Uranus in Aqua which clearly shows true affectionate friendship and with Uranus sextile to Mercury a mutual understanding and feeling on the same page at communication level. South Node is conjunct to the Venus/Uranus midpoint. This gives depth and a soulmate/karmic/psychic vibe to the connection, but it can also signal that there could be an underlying instability or simply that you are very independent from each other. This aspects could also signal that there may be potential abrupt periods of separation and detachment.

I have to say I haven't experience a sun-venus conjunction in composite in a romantic connection but I actually have it with her and another friend and it's actually really really nice :-(((. With the independent aspect, she's very independent in general from me and now I am too but again, it's something that I'm okay with. Abrupt periods of separation and detachment are also true, going through it right now but she's told me in advance so I'm gooddd.

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There is also another aspect typically "short term" which is Neptune square to Saturn, involving lilith... here lilith adds a weird dark trait though. Maybe there are unconscious elements preventing to see the real nature and direction of the connection. It looks very spirirtual again, but Lilith leaves a deep sense of unknown, as if it's not easy to clearly grab the other's personality on a deeper level or more grounded level. The Mars/Venus midpoint is square to Chiron/MC, this would rule out that your connection is based on a romantic dynamic, even though there could be a sense of special intimacy on other levels.

I'd say this would have been short term with last year's ordeal but I guess things change lol.

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My main concern is that the Moon/Saturn midpoint is conjunct South Node. This is a very karmic aspect which may signal a lesson about separation or impossibility to openly express each other's feelings. Since Neptune is square to Lilith almost exact, I would suspect that there could actually be a hidden, unconscious dynamic linked to sexual attraction, which is unexpressed, maybe there's not even awareness as it looks quite buried at subconscious level, but the Moon/Saturn midpoint conjunct South Node may suggest that this is what will stay unsolved. Alternatively, the Moon/Saturn midpoint can also suggest that this connection won't last for a lifetime but that it may be temporary. In any case, it's sign of a very deep and karmic emotional dimension potentially coming from past life or another dimension. (I can't see Composite Vertex and I'd be curious to check its placement).

So lesson about separation is true. I think I'd be very aware of sexual attraction then her because most of the stuff I have realised now, she's still realising or hasn't realised before. Now I feel like mentioning it, just because I want to play devil's advocate but there's no good in it. That temporary comment is sad I'm ngl, I really hope that isn't the case.

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Your ex was also a Capricorn Sun and with his neptune trine to your Saturn, so maybe that's why she reminds you of him. But it obviously looks much more binding at romantic level and the Composite dynamic looks different, even though here you have a strong break-up aspect such as Uranus square Jupiter-Saturn on IC.

So with this connection, I knew it was karmic because he triggered my whole looking into astrology and tarot etc and well here I am. And I don't classify him as a soulmate but a woundmate. I'm glad it ended though.

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Your Composite with Ali is also very interesting, because you have the Nodes on the axis as well here, and so it looks very karmic again, with the Sun also conjunct to ASC/North Node.

So I still haven't met Ali but by the looks of everything I know he's intriguing but problematic. Ahhh so he would find me sexually attractive! So idk how his mars oppose my ascendant would come across. And one aspect that's been in my head is his psyche conjunct my mercury like what does that mean? We have a lot of close aspects. I see him as a merge of my parent's (my mum is a virgo sun with virgo mercury while my dad has a libra moon, libra venus and leo mars). Also that my chiron square his venus looks scary, would that mean he would open my wounds or would he feel that more?

Here is the requested composite chart with the vertex:

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posted January 31, 2021 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow... with Comp. Vertex conjunct North Node and Sun/Saturn midpoint conjucnt South Node/Anti-Vertex, this looks extremely fated and karmic. You may have a strong mind psychic connection (even though you may be unaware of this). Did you ever dream of each other or have strange synchroncities (like, saying/thinking things at the same time... thinking of her just seconds before she shows up/calls, and stuff like that?)

I think that with antivertex/south node conjunct to saturn/moon mp this bond can be felt as lasting forever, like the one you have with a close family member. Even if you detach/part ways one day, it would be still like having her in your life no matter what. If one believes in other possible lives, even if you part ways in this life, you're destined to meet again in another life. The lesson about separation is also interesting, since somehow she seems to have helped you move on from your ex, and she also has detached from you once or few times. I have said that this may be temporary because there is also the Neptune/Saturn square, and these two aspects in the same chart usually suggest me that at one point you may part ways, but it doesnt have to be necessarily like that. with anti-vertex/south node/moon-saturn mp it's possible that you will have periods of separation and you then will find each other again multiple times (in this and/or in other lives/dimensions).

(just a side note observation... you met her on 15th dec 2019, I met J on 11th Dec 2019... isnt this a weird coincidence between you and me at this moment, while talking about our two different situations with such a almost matching date?!)

Her Moon is square your Neptune and it is quincunx to Venus... I think you may not clearly feel her affection as you wish, there could be that neglecting sense you have felt in her ghosting you, even though she actually has a strong affection in any case, this because her Moon falls in your 8th and your Neptune is in 12th house, but I think idealization is mutual. Moon quiuncunx Venus is a bit unstable emotionally, maybe your feminine sides are different and emotions are expressed differently.

With Ali, with psyche conjunct mercury communication with him may affect you deeply (in the good and in the bad). Your Chiron square his Venus may trigger more his self-damaging trait cause he has Nessus square venus, but his Chiron/MC conjunct to your Pluto opposite your Eros/IC could be quite harsh for you, maybe disturbing, potentially abusive. You have a Eros/Psyche conjunction with him along the axis conjunction... this is a potential aspect of strong infatuation and sexual attraction, especially with the Pluto opposition... it is very strong, but with your Chiron involved it also looks a bit dangerous... I envision the Devil card here somehow, a connection potentially self-damaging with overwhelming attraction.
You may meet him when transiting Node is conjunct Composite Jupiter... transiting south node is now conjunct Comp. Chiron, so this may be triggering something already.....


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posted January 31, 2021 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS: I have just noticed that you had the same Chiron/PLuto conjunction on your MC opposite your IC with H... this is a dynamic you may feel with Ali again and that may draw you strongly to him. But I would be careful, cause Ali has some strong self-damaging traits, he looks like a "damaged" person, with strong inner issues.

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posted January 31, 2021 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay this is the second time we've posted at the same time, like that's maddd.

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Oh, wow... with Comp. Vertex conjunct North Node and Sun/Saturn midpoint conjucnt South Node/Anti-Vertex, this looks extremely fated and karmic. You may have a strong mind psychic connection (even though you may be unaware of this). Did you ever dream of each other or have strange synchroncities (like, saying/thinking things at the same time... thinking of her just seconds before she shows up/calls, and stuff like that?)

YES AND I AM AWARE OF IT. So literally that time she reached out, she had such a strong inkling to call me and she said she didn't know why. Like she felt so intensely to check up on me and honestly that was a rough time for me so I was like that's crazy. But in general, that's true too. Another time I was going to do something stupid and usually she doesn't keep her phone on her while she works but she felt like she had to and I ended up spamming her with messages at like 2am in the morning loool.

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I think that with antivertex/south node conjunct to saturn/moon mp this bond can be felt as lasting forever, like the one you have with a close family member. Even if you detach/part ways one day, it would be still like having her in your life no matter what. If one believes in other possible lives, even if you part ways in this life, you're destined to meet again in another life. The lesson about separation is also interesting, since somehow she seems to have helped you move on from your ex, and she also has detached from you once or few times. I have said that this may be temporary because there is also the Neptune/Saturn square, and these two aspects in the same chart usually suggest me that at one point you may part ways, but it doesnt have to be necessarily like that. with anti-vertex/south node/moon-saturn mp it's possible that you will have periods of separation and you then will find each other again multiple times (in this and/or in other lives/dimensions).

I completely understand and I am happy with where we are now like we both understand our boundaries (more me in this case because it's new for me) so I'm okay with the distance because I know the love is there.

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(just a side note observation... you met her on 15th dec 2019, I met J on 11th Dec 2019... isnt this a weird coincidence between you and me at this moment, while talking about our two different situations with such a almost matching date?!)

I'm yelling, this is so true. That is such a weird coincidence, what does this meannnnnnnn haha

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Her Moon is square your Neptune and it is quincunx to Venus... I think you may not clearly feel her affection as you wish, there could be that neglecting sense you have felt in her ghosting you, even though she actually has a strong affection in any case, this because her Moon falls in your 8th and your Neptune is in 12th house, but I think idealization is mutual. Moon quiuncunx Venus is a bit unstable emotionally, maybe your feminine sides are different and emotions are expressed differently.

So yes to the affection thing, she is pretty cold but that's because of her upbringing and I've really tried to warm that frozen part of her. It used to bug me in the past but there's a lot more understanding and I realise we love differently because of our past. Our feminine sides are different like we're both mothering but in different ways. She's more action-based like doing things for people and very straightforward while I'm very affectionate with my actions and words.

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With Ali, with psyche conjunct mercury communication with him may affect you deeply (in the good and in the bad). Your Chiron square his Venus may trigger more his self-damaging trait cause he has Nessus square venus, but his Chiron/MC conjunct to your Pluto opposite your Eros/IC could be quite harsh for you, maybe disturbing, potentially abusive. You have a Eros/Psyche conjunction with him along the axis conjunction... this is a potential aspect of strong infatuation and sexual attraction, especially with the Pluto opposition... it is very strong, but with your Chiron involved it also looks a bit dangerous... I envision the Devil card here somehow, a connection potentially self-damaging with overwhelming attraction.
You may meet him when transiting Node is conjunct Composite Jupiter... transiting south node is now conjunct Comp. Chiron, so this may be triggering something already.....

When I read this, I had to get up and walk for a while in my room because NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO so we are going to avoid him at all costs x haha. I can invision this clearly because of his troubled upbringing, with his state now and with all my issues but I am so glad that I had come to terms with unresolved things and things that prompted me to gear towards toxic guys with my ex because this looks so much more heavier. Even this same friend was like your relationship sounded like it was drama more than passion and I think you need more. And in my head, I was like 'your brother is someone I could have that passion with' and not even passion in a good way passion in an absolutely insane way. Like mentally destroying because I saw
the moon conjunct pluto in the composite ages ago and I was like this looks yummy but yeah no thank you. Stoikaaaa don't scare me, I can't meet him :-(((((((((( he's gonna spin me in his web.

With your last message:

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PS: I have just noticed that you had the same Chiron/PLuto conjunction on your MC opposite your IC with H... this is a dynamic you may feel with Ali again and that may draw you strongly to him. But I would be careful, cause Ali has some strong self-damaging traits, he looks like a "damaged" person, with strong inner issues.

You are correct, he has major issues because of his mother. And in return, he's internalised and self-sabotages. He is a constant worry for my friend but then at the same time, from what I've seen he is really attractive to me so it's that kind of thing. You could ruin me but you're cute? That makes it okay which is so so so toxic and I'm breaking out of that mindset because I have a history of wanting to help people (hence why the ex became an ex).

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posted January 31, 2021 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are correct, he has major issues because of his mother. And in return, he's internalised and self-sabotages. He is a constant worry for my friend but then at the same time, from what I've seen he is really attractive to me so it's that kind of thing. You could ruin me but you're cute? That makes it okay which is so so so toxic and I'm breaking out of that mindset because I have a history of wanting to help people (hence why the ex became an ex).

YES, that's the thing with your Chiron in that placement in the synastry with Ali... you may be attracted by the fact he needs your healing energy.
Yes his Nessus is square to his Venus/Moon midpoint, looks like he had an horrible relationship with his mother... and then he has Chiron conjunct MC and Pluto opposite his Jupiter/IC/Psyche and square to his Sun...! so his whole life is deeply affected by this wound and with the Pluto/Jupiter opposition he looks like taking advantage of others as a defence tool... then, he has mars opposite Uranus/Juno... he has no rage control and he has resentments against women. This involves your ASC/DSC, Moon and Sun/Juno midpoint... for you this may certainly potentially be a quite toxic experience. But the interesting thing is that you have such strong karmic aspects that I'm not sure you won't meet him. Now, I obviously don't know him and I don't want to depict him like a terribly negative person, but for you, in your dynamic, he doesnt look much healthy, so just keep this in mind if you meet him cause I think the attraction will be strong..................


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Noooooooooooooooooooooooo, yes to everything especially taking advantage of others. Gosh, with this description, I feel like I'm the one depicting him as a horrible person and it's like 'girl, why are you even considering about being with him' now that I'm pondering over this. With the no rage control and resentments against women is like a semi-new revelation because it's not something talked about often and I think that fact is unspoken. I just know, if I do meet him, it's going to be so difficult. That push and pull will lead me insane. Like a moth to a flame. Guess who's gonna know all about if it does happen, I'll probably make a thread complaining about it 😩😩😩.

If you do think we will meet, when do you think this will be? I think last time you mentioned around Summer because my theory is my solar return predicts the man I will be with for that year or something along that line. With my ex, my mars was in Pisces in the 5th and my ex has a Pisces Mars and my Venus was in my 9th house and my ex has Venus in Sag natally. This solar return, my sun is in the 5th and my mars is in the 7th but conjunct my 8th house. I have my sun in Ali's 5th house in synastry while he has a mars in 8th natally. Idk I'm kind of testing this theory out still but it's interesting.

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posted February 01, 2021 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you meet him, I think it may happen at the end of march/early april, cause at that moment transiting north node will be conjunct to comp. Jupiter and transiting Sun/Venus will be conjunct to the Eros/Eris midpoint and square North Node/Sun/DSC.

Your composite with him is not SO terrible. Sun/North Node on DSC show you may actually have a soulmate feeling and that the connection has a purpose. But it all looks mainly on the sexual attraction level. With Neptune quincunx Venus and the Juno/Jupiter midpoint square Neptune, I think he would not commit or be faithful. this may also suggest that your connection is more about getting fun or party together, those are mainly friends with benefit aspects, and Mars/Venus midpoint is square saturn, so it doesnt look romantic, even though with Eros/Juno there's a potential crush. The Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Uranus, so it would look more like a short affair.
Even though, with Moon/Pluto, it may be intense and affecting you deeply.
Nessus is in 12th house opposite Venus so the negative dynamics are potentially "overlooked" once you're involved, but again it carries a toxic/abusive trait. Then, with Moon/Pluto in 11th opposite to Jupiter there's an opportunistic trait again, and this may affect your friendship with his sister in a negative way somehow...
Just keep in mind all you already know about him if he sweeps you off your feet :-)

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posted February 01, 2021 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS: as for your reply about J in your tarot reading thread, I apologise!! I feel like I have hijacked your thread somehow! 🙏

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Thank you for your insight. I'll keep that in mind. I feel like it is terrible. Friends with benefits are just so not me. Especially sexual relations create bonds and I don't want to be so merged with someone that could be so damaging to me which looks like so. Hence, why I'm afraidddd because I tend to forget the negatives but sigh no more. And the things with my friend is a defo no no and especially why I wouldn't want to get in something with him because I wouldn't want to jeopardise my relationship with my friend. And the unfaithful/non-commital part is definitely a no no. That would kill my self-esteem, something I'm really working on. This whole thing with how he is makes me so sad because it's like you've got so much potential yet why are you like this? Like that's the way I feel. I think I need to chill majorly with this too, initially I saw potential with his planets in my 7th house in synastry and then it looked so much deeper because I've never had planets in the 7th house in the composite but this just looks messy 2.0. What do you think?

PS. Don't be silly!!! It's perfectly alright as it provided insight for the reading, very interesting stuff :-)

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posted February 01, 2021 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PS. Don't be silly!!! It's perfectly alright as it provided insight for the reading, very interesting stuff :-)

😂😂😂

I think that, potentially, based on the way you are and your past experience and issues you have already worked through and are aware about in relationships matters, he would bring upheaval to you, but I am still wondering about such karmic aspects you have with him. With Moon/Pluto and Chiron in 11th house there is also the possibility that it all would just turn out into a significant friendship, even though it would still have some frustrating aspects... the thing is that we don't know how this all would play out once you really meet him in person. I feel you will meet him in any case... so maybe we should re-check the whole chart once this happens :-)

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He sounds like a hot headache. Let's talk about the karmic aspects, what do they mean? I spoke to Graham about this that we have an 11th and 5th house issue and I came to the conclusion that the karmic lesson may be that men and women can be friends because I still think they can't. I haven't had good encounters with guys in general like there's always something more underlying there. And I have tried!!! It's difficult for a good friendship when there's such sexual attraction, you reminded me of that ages ago that there's a strong sexual hook. And I'm like what does this meannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Anyways, it may turn out he may meet me and not find me attractive loooooooool then that would change the dynamic.

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posted February 01, 2021 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand the frienship issue and the observation about the 11th and 5th house, that is why I see the possibility of friendship, with Chiron there, it looks actually "healing" about the issue you may have in this matter. But as for "karmic", the node is conjunct Sun and DSC it all in 7th house and Cancer, so I have doubts. It seems to point more to love relationship and the emotional dimension, since such a conjunction is quincunx to Moon and with Saturn in the fourth house. But Nessus is opposite Venus, so the love relationship dimension looks in "danger" somehow...
There may be several outcomes from these aspects, it's very difficult to figure it all out if you don't have a real experience/story with this person yet and there is no real context to explore on a karmic purpose level.
The Cancer/Moon/4th house influence may be related to his sister though and the fact the she's your close friend, so suggesting a "family" environment where you relationship with him may occur.

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Interesting, could you say Nessus could implicate outside dangers rather than the dynamic inside the relationship? With the Cancer/Moon/4th house influence, if I ever was to meet him I would meet him at my friend's house so that's telling. This seems horrible though Stoika like there is 7th house karmic issues yet this romantic dimension seems dangerous but yet it's fated??? That seems horrible . Like from just a normal observation outside of an astrological pov, it would seem his mother would be a major problem because she disapproves anything he does and is extremely abusive. She's a narcissist so obvs that would affect him a lot. And he'd try to break out of that mould and I'd want to be like 'oh no, you can heal and she can't dictate your life because you're bigger than that and something would happen like relationship wise but instead of healing, he'd actually exert all his toxicity on me as someone else has done to him. Kind of a crazy image but that's the picture I get which is confirmed with these aspects.

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posted February 03, 2021 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't though of it in such perspective, but yes, since Nessus is in 12th house, it may point to an external influence. But your natal Jupiter/Mercury opposite Pluto is already thinking BIG about him, lol

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Ahhh I'm embarassed and shyyyyy, you are rightttt. Imma need to get him out of my mind, help lol.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by softissues:


Hi ! i’m new here but I also wanted to get insight on my snastry

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by softissues:


Hi ! i’m new here but I also wanted to get insight on my snastry


Hi, you can make another thread and address @Stoika7 in the title of the thread and she can look at your chart for you. Or anyone else like Todd or Graham . I'm sure they would be happy to look at that for you. This thread is specifically for my chart but another thread would be more beneficial for you!

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Ahhh I'm embarassed and shyyyyy, you are rightttt. Imma need to get him out of my mind, help lol.

OMG, and what are you going to do when you actually meet him?? 😂😍
This is dangerousssssssssssssssssss

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Hi, you can make another thread and address @Stoika7 in the title of the thread and she can look at your chart for you. Or anyone else like Todd or Graham . I'm sure they would be happy to look at that for you. This thread is specifically for my chart but another thread would be more beneficial for you!

Ok perfect thank you

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Originally posted by softissues:
Hi, you can make another thread and address @Stoika7 in the title of the thread and she can look at your chart for you. Or anyone else like Todd or Graham . I'm sure they would be happy to look at that for you. This thread is specifically for my chart but another thread would be more beneficial for you!

Ok perfect thank you

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STOIKA7 YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

so my friend is actually born 5 days prior to what the date I had put originally.

Composite:

Synastry:

Updates on Ali
L told me he's moving in next week apparently and I was like 'oh boy what do you know' and I told her I can't come to her house to see her and she goes, 'I already told him to go away from the house if my friends come over'. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH help me.

I would love to read for you this week if you would like, things are going to get a bit easier for me so I have the desire to read for other people again <3.

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OMG, and what are you going to do when you actually meet him?? 😂😍
This is dangerousssssssssssssssssss

OMG HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS MESSAGEEEE, I'm dyinggggggg yes it's hella dangeroussss. My friend was like he knows me as my friend's 'young friend' and only knows me by my age when I met her and I was like...I'm only 7 months younger than him like excuse him.😂😂😂 like I wanted to fighttttt. This is so messy and we haven't even mettttttttttt.

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posted February 07, 2021 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhm...!

The synastry and composite don't look much much different than the other one, 'cept for the Moon which looks much more intimate/intense somehow in the new composite, while in synastry it is square to your saturn so she looks a bit more detached here, but in the composite with moon as midpoint between Pluto and Chiron and the square to Venus, there may be potentially a dynamic of jelousy or emotional control/dependence, but with chiron involved it also looks very supportive and "healing", there's likely a process of very deep inner knowledge of each other.

As for Ali, well you'll finally have the chance to meet him and you will no longer think of a ghost then :-) You need to see him in person to get a better idea of this whole "attraction" you have for him.

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