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nowonders
Newflake

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posted January 31, 2021 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im a female and my tsquare is concerning to me but idk how to interpret…cuz the aspects of planets involved seems pointing to “abuse” I was kinda abused as a child (more like violence) but idk if it’s gonna be manifested as worse things in future…I’m still so young
https://ibb.co/Fb0WpRY I hope my chart can be shown here

saturn & jupiter gemini 3rd house
mars virgo 6th house
pluto sag 9th house
the tightest is Jupiter opposite Pluto orb -0°40'
Mars square Pluto orb +3°23'
Saturn opposite Pluto orb -9°48'
Mars square Saturn orb +6°25'
Mars square Jupiter orb -4°03'

I hope my air grand trines helps a bit?

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Stoika7
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posted January 31, 2021 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi nowonders 💙

Yes the abusive experience is clear with Chiron conjunct Pluto square Mars, with the Jupiter opposition there's will to get more aware but with Jupiter square Mars there is a strong self-defensive dynamic, and since the third house in gemini is involved and Mars in 6th house Virgo, it all ruled by mercury, I guess this affects your communication... So from here we go and look at your mercury. It is conjunct Venus and square to Neptune in Aquarius/11th house. You seem to carry a deep insecurity with this placement in relationship matters, but also a strong self-questioning/self-blaming attitude... with the Neptune/Venus square, you may tend to distract yourself a lot in the outer world/social environment maybe also through some kind of addiction, in any case there's a lack of trust in relationships but at the same time of self-blame and lack of trust to yourself and your self-worth (Saturn in 2nd house quincunx mercury), so it looks a bit like a vicious circle in which deep inside you feel you dont deserve to be loved or so... Your Chiron is in 9th house sagittarius opposite Jupiter, maybe the violence you talk about was in a learning environment (school?), but Saturn is quincunx to Venus, so I hope is not about an authority figure in your family environment... in any case, Chiron/Jupiter opposion suggests a healing through learning to open up more in trusting humankind, in a less self-defensive way, and embrace your emotional world (Chiron sextile Moon in 7th house) letting go your fears (Pluto conjunct Chiron) about relationships with more faith in human beings but also in yourself.

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nowonders
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posted January 31, 2021 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi nowonders 💙

Yes the abusive experience is clear with Chiron conjunct Pluto square Mars, with the Jupiter opposition there's will to get more aware but with Jupiter square Mars there is a strong self-defensive dynamic, and since the third house in gemini is involved and Mars in 6th house Virgo, it all ruled by mercury, I guess this affects your communication... So from here we go and look at your mercury. It is conjunct Venus and square to Neptune in Aquarius/11th house. You seem to carry a deep insecurity with this placement in relationship matters, but also a strong self-questioning/self-blaming attitude... with the Neptune/Venus square, you may tend to distract yourself a lot in the outer world/social environment maybe also through some kind of addiction, in any case there's a lack of trust in relationships but at the same time of self-blame and lack of trust to yourself and your self-worth (Saturn in 2nd house quincunx mercury), so it looks a bit like a vicious circle in which deep inside you feel you dont deserve to be loved or so... Your Chiron is in 9th house sagittarius opposite Jupiter, maybe the violence you talk about was in a learning environment (school?), but Saturn is quincunx to Venus, so I hope is not about an authority figure in your family environment... in any case, Chiron/Jupiter opposion suggests a healing through learning to open up more in trusting humankind, in a less self-defensive way, and embrace your emotional world (Chiron sextile Moon in 7th house) letting go your fears (Pluto conjunct Chiron) about relationships with more faith in human beings but also in yourself.


omg i...in summary yes i was bullied throughout school years and i've been abused at home(violence & conflicts technically speaking), now in my 20s i'm questioning love cuz i can't trust ppl, doubt always plays a role in any relationships. self-worth prob plays a HUGE role here i agree...

but on the outside i look so normal? also once i kinda give up on my family all the conflicts stops suddenly, like from 100 to 0 once i turned 18 or so.

one last question, shd i consider aquarius 12h and virgo 6h mars as the releasing point of the t square? or is the problem way more complicated than just my t square? i wish to focus on a few points to work on for improvements.

honestly thank you so much for sharing your insights with me, i really appreciate!!! :]

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Stoika7
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posted February 01, 2021 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're so welcome 💙

In my opinion, your Mars energy would need to be released in a more positive way, since it's in 6th house and square to Chiron/Pluto, it looks like a big effort. This has to do with the "release" of your true Self/identity, in fact your 1st house in Aries is empty and intercepted. Your Sun is on the opposite side, in 7th house, and it is trine to Neptune and trine to Saturn is 2nd house... this looks again that your healing goes through working on your self-worth (saturn 2nd house), and with Neptune in 11th house you also have the 12th house energy, spirituality but also humanitarian compassionate feelings, fantasy, dreams... and the 11th house of "putting yourself out there" (and with Uranus also ruling your 12th house, pretty much the same message I think...)

What do you mean "I look so normal"?
I think that with your Pisces ASC you look sensitive and fascinating and creative. Your Pluto/Jupiter opposition carries great ambitions, and focusing on this path of self-worth I think will help you get rid and let go of the past wound carried by the Chiron/Pluto conjunction and the t-square.

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nowonders
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posted February 01, 2021 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stoika7:
You're so welcome 💙

In my opinion, your Mars energy would need to be released in a more positive way, since it's in 6th house and square to Chiron/Pluto, it looks like a big effort. This has to do with the "release" of your true Self/identity, in fact your 1st house in Aries is empty and intercepted. Your Sun is on the opposite side, in 7th house, and it is trine to Neptune and trine to Saturn is 2nd house... this looks again that your healing goes through working on your self-worth (saturn 2nd house), and with Neptune in 11th house you also have the 12th house energy, spirituality but also humanitarian compassionate feelings, fantasy, dreams... and the 11th house of "putting yourself out there" (and with Uranus also ruling your 12th house, pretty much the same message I think...)

What do you mean "I look so normal"?
I think that with your Pisces ASC you look sensitive and fascinating and creative. Your Pluto/Jupiter opposition carries great ambitions, and focusing on this path of self-worth I think will help you get rid and let go of the past wound carried by the Chiron/Pluto conjunction and the t-square.


thank you so much i was so worried that i couldn't sleep, i totally relate to this solution as in, maybe doing charity work? i also love animals so maybe i could join some voluntary rescue teams in the future.

i look normal to others cuz i don't think they sense i am such a wounded person, but my lack of self worth prob gives hint ig. self-worth and spirituality are concepts i never grasp but i do need efforts on.

an extra Q : do u think it manifest as abusive relationships, or do u think it alr ended in my life?

i'm a mess i know, sorry for putting you through this :[

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Stoika7
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posted February 01, 2021 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
💙💙💙

It's my pleasure :-)

I think you can't sleep because transiting Saturn is conjunct to your neptune, and transiting mercury just went retrograde but went recently in square to your saturn, his may have given you depression and anxiety, self-questioning and... low self-worth :-)
Since transiting Mars is going to be square to your Uranus soon, I would suggest you to try some meditation or anything that could possibly relax you for the next ten days. Focus on the thought that it is a very temporary situation, in fact Saturn is already leaving your Neptune...

I believe you will find healing from this. In June, transiting south node will be conjunct to your Chiron and this may be a healing transit helping you to find answers and letting go from whatever is concerning you.

As for your question, there is a risk that you unconsciously may attract abusive relationships, but the more you get aware of your self-worth issue, the less there are chances that this happens. I see more the risk that you may keep a strong self-defensive attitude, because with Pluto attached to Chiron your past wound is stuck to your subconscious and this kind of self-defence is not always easy for you to control... or, let's say it takes time for you to learn how to ackowledge and control the issue...

With your placements of Neptune, Pisces ASC and Mars in 6th house Virgo, all the activities you mentioned, animals included, are very healing to you. Your north node is in cancer 4th house, and your Moon is sextile Chiron, so I believe that finding a balanced emotional and family environment situation, maybe creating your own family one day, will be greatly fullfilling you :-)

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nowonders
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posted February 01, 2021 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stoika7:
💙💙💙

It's my pleasure :-)

I think you can't sleep because transiting Saturn is conjunct to your neptune, and transiting mercury just went retrograde but went recently in square to your saturn, his may have given you depression and anxiety, self-questioning and... low self-worth :-)
Since transiting Mars is going to be square to your Uranus soon, I would suggest you to try some meditation or anything that could possibly relax you for the next ten days. Focus on the thought that it is a very temporary situation, in fact Saturn is already leaving your Neptune...

I believe you will find healing from this. In June, transiting south node will be conjunct to your Chiron and this may be a healing transit helping you to find answers and letting go from whatever is concerning you.

As for your question, there is a risk that you unconsciously may attract abusive relationships, but the more you get aware of your self-worth issue, the less there are chances that this happens. I see more the risk that you may keep a strong self-defensive attitude, because with Pluto attached to Chiron your past wound is stuck to your subconscious and this kind of self-defence is not always easy for you to control... or, let's say it takes time for you to learn how to ackowledge and control the issue...

With your placements of Neptune, Pisces ASC and Mars in 6th house Virgo, all the activities you mentioned, animals included, are very healing to you. Your north node is in cancer 4th house, and your Moon is sextile Chiron, so I believe that finding a balanced emotional and family environment situation, maybe creating your own family one day, will be greatly fullfilling you :-)


thank you so so much! wow i wish i'm this experienced to be able to read my transits! this is truly an inspiring interaction here, and i'll def take my time to repeat your words and take my actions! Astrology has made me more ocnscious abt my past and future, and ofc gain so much insights!

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Stoika7
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posted February 01, 2021 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But you have great spiritual and psychic potential in your chart, I am sure you can do this :-)

Keep me updated! and try to sleep well :-)

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Graham
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posted February 01, 2021 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nowonders:
thank you so so much! wow i wish i'm this experienced to be able to read my transits! this is truly an inspiring interaction here, and i'll def take my time to repeat your words and take my actions! Astrology has made me more ocnscious abt my past and future, and ofc gain so much insights!

Stop wishing for the experience to read transits yourself ... Make that happen, via practice-makes-perfect.

Then, you can use that (and your difficult childhood/adolescence) to help others in the way that Stoika does now.

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