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tada911
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posted September 05, 2021 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tada911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Longtime lurker, first time poster!

I have searched online and on this forum but have not found any info about this particular placement. I have gemini on 7th house cusp (empty house), with mercury in pisces exactly conjunct IC. I have virgo on 10th house cusp as well.

I am very curious about this, as I have been "technically" single for over 15 years. I have had some very significant relationships, but I wouldnt say that they were relationships in the traditional sense. Perhaps understanding the significance of 7th house ruler conjunct IC would give me more clarity.

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posted September 05, 2021 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, welcome! Post your chart for broader replies to your Q

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tada911
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posted September 05, 2021 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tada911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Vansio!

Here is my chart:

edit: unsure of how to make the chart appear in the post, if anyone can give me some guidance it would be appreciated! the above link goes to the chart.

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posted September 05, 2021 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
remove the s in https to make image appear

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posted September 05, 2021 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IF removing the 's' doesn't bring the graphic up--
go back in and delete the whole url
submit post without url {cleans it}

refresh the browser

then re-edit and ADD the url without 's' in http and with IMG code in place, and post it.

*refresh the browser* if you ever don't see your revised posting

in the past, I've seen this correct the problem

IF you post and a tiny square shrinked icon is there? Let it rest like that. Come back later, and the graphic 'should' appear.

If the even the "LL advertising banner" above looks empty or has those tiny-icon squares, then, come back later and it will have corrected itself.

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tada911
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posted September 05, 2021 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tada911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks vansio and mirage! removing the s worked!

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tada911
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posted September 12, 2021 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tada911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump! any ideas?

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posted September 26, 2021 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mirage29
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posted September 26, 2021 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Alan Oken c 2000
Rulers of The Horoscope:
Finding Your Way Through the Labyrinth.
Ibis, p. 242

When the ruler of the Seventh is in the THIRD--
{redoing the post, be right back}

Here it is.. Quoting!

"When the ruler of the Seventh is in the Third",
and the planet is well-aspected,
partners can be our very closest of friends.
Communication with these special loved ones will be easy and effective.
In fact,
a person who has the ruler of the Seventh House in the Third
often is attracted to people who are mentally stimulating.

The urge is to see a partner who tends to have a positive effect on that individual's mind and ways of relating his or her thoughts.

Please remember that the Seventh House ruler (the other person)
is in the native's Third House
(the way an individual expresses his or her opinions and ideas).

In some cases,
this position points to a brother or sister as a business partner,
or may indicate that a sibling could act as a consultant to the individual in question--
(consultants and counselors also fall under the domain of the Seventh).

Because the Third House indicates our neighborhood,
when the Seventh House ruler is in this domicile,
our life partner may have come from the same ethnic, social, or geographical background as ourselves.

Should the Seventh House ruler be afflicted in this house,
there is a tendency for the partner to dominate one's thoughts and ideas.

e.g.
Let us say that Scorpio is on the Seventh
and Pluto is in the Third in Cancer
square the individual's Mercury--
This can be an indication of mental manipulation and abuse
in their marriage or partnership.
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(That's a start for you! ..)

Grand Trine
"MERCURY" trine 'Jupiter in the 8th',
which both trine Uranus in the 12th.

Then you have
Mercury Pisces square Neptune in the 1st.

(You have a lot of allure?! .. )
Your Sun is in sextile with Chiron in the 5th.
That's really beautiful! Helping people you relate to, to accept themselves.. thus healing wounds.

. .
ruler of your Asc (Sag) in the 8th House (Page 100, 101)
Eighth House .. is quite the test!
.. individual has to undergo many crises of transformation in order to give birth to his or her 'greater good'.
If it is in affliction .. with Venus--
(especially if Venus is in a cardinal sign -- yep, yours is Capricorn-- but WIDE!),
then relationship with money or the 'motivations we have' IN creating relationship, will be profoundly altered.
Certainly, one's sexuality will play a very important role in life...
Strong Jupiter in the Eighth may be an excellent indication of a person who can, through keen eye for investments, make money for other people.
Jupiter here can also reorient a person's philosophical or religious leanings, bringing universality where prejudice, or at the very least, where narrow-mindedness, once reigned.

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posted September 26, 2021 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the influence of 'what you do in the situation or line of work' make things difficult for you in finding a life-long 'marriage' partner? Puts a dent in things?

You had asked about Mercury conjunct IC (H3)..
Mercury looks across to your Virgo MC, as far as 'career' goes?

Your Saturn is on a fixed star called Zosma. Keywords for Zosma are "hard work and suffering"; victimized or pressured in some manner; working with people and situations where 'victims' are present and need assistance.

Both Fixed Stars Denebola and Alkes are on your MC ..
'Denebola' .. Individualism, doing something unique or special in some manner;
Avoids the mainstream and prefers to do things for minority or those marginalized on the edges of society;
Seeing things different to everyone else.
'Alkes' .. Have special talents that are handed down through the generations; this appears in what they create; There is a mystical and special feeling that surrounds the individual with this Star prominent.

Your Uranus Scorpio in the 12th
is on Fixed Star Unukalhai..
healing and the medical profession;
accident proneness (a little bit);
helping people with their problems;
MUST be honest in your professional life.

Your MOON is on Fixed Star Samakah
Ability to be attuned to an inner sense of direction in fast-changing times, and imparts it to Others.

Your MERCURY is on Fixed Star Markab --
balance and steadiness while all around you is going crazy!
Allows you to deal with pressure, and keep calm and solid during crisis.
Also, ~slightly stubborn and unable to change tack if you need to. LOL

______________
sorry I lost my references for where I got info on Fixed Stars.
scribbled notes into my DataNotebook years ago, and there's hardly room to place a reference..
if I had to guess--
I might then cite the work of Paul Saunders the most.

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posted October 08, 2021 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 08, 2021 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not 100% sure of your question, but... you have a strong Uranus influence happening- trine your Moon and Mercury in your 3rd, square your Mars... and then Saturn opposite Sun? Your personal planets being in the lower quadrant indicate (to me) a private and reserved individual. The Uranus influence furthers this to show a strong need for individuality and independence. Everything about you- Moon, Sun, thought, are in harmony. You have contentment in your own being?

Saturn opp Sun also delays and throws a wrench in the works.

So this doesn't answer the question about Mercury in IC, but it does indirectly describe your chart a little more. If those planets were in your 4th house as opposed to 3rd- I would say this would better describe your childhood. A cohesive, vibrant and communicative family life. But they're in your 3rd... so this might bleed into your family upbringing, but really I think this is more descriptive of your thoughts, communication, and sibling life.

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tada911
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posted October 10, 2021 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tada911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mirage29!

quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:

Alan Oken c 2000
[b]Rulers of The Horoscope
:
Finding Your Way Through the Labyrinth.
Ibis, p. 242

When the ruler of the Seventh is in the THIRD--
{redoing the post, be right back}

Here it is.. Quoting!

"When the ruler of the Seventh is in the Third",
and the planet is well-aspected,
partners can be our very closest of friends.
Communication with these special loved ones will be easy and effective.
In fact,
a person who has the ruler of the Seventh House in the Third
often is attracted to people who are mentally stimulating.


100% true! I need to be mentally stimulated more than anything else in any kind of 1 on 1 relationship. I think this is why my romantic relationships are so few and far between! I am a very mentally active person, constantly thinking and eternally curious, and very rarely meet people who share this quality who are compatible with me.

quote:

The urge is to see a partner who tends to have a positive effect on that individual's mind and ways of relating his or her thoughts.


most definitely! but this is quite challenging to find in a partner! I have yet to meet someone who has a positive effect on my mind and is interested in helping me better myself mentally. I have spent much of my life trying to develop more spiritual awareness, and frequently end up meeting people who I am attracted to, who are not at the same level of awareness at all that I am. In my one major relationship, I would say though that he had a positive effect on my mind, but it was through really working through my own mental issues in order to love him better.

quote:

Please remember that the Seventh House ruler (the other person)
is in the native's Third House
(the way an individual expresses his or her opinions and ideas).

In some cases,
this position points to a brother or sister as a business partner,
or may indicate that a sibling could act as a consultant to the individual in question--
(consultants and counselors also fall under the domain of the Seventh).


I am involved in some business with my brother (by no choice of our own), but I am the one in control of the business, while he is actually quite an aggravating factor to me and to the business, due to his lack of knowledge and personal issues. this has actually been a major issue for me over the past 5 years; him being so adversarial and acrimonious towards me that i became ill as a result of his actions.

quote:

Because the Third House indicates our neighborhood,
when the Seventh House ruler is in this domicile,
our life partner may have come from the same ethnic, social, or geographical background as ourselves.


that is quite interesting as I have never had a relationship with someone who shared such qualities with me.

quote:


Should the Seventh House ruler be afflicted in this house,
there is a tendency for the partner to dominate one's thoughts and ideas.

e.g.
Let us say that Scorpio is on the Seventh
and Pluto is in the Third in Cancer
square the individual's Mercury--
This can be an indication of mental manipulation and abuse
in their marriage or partnership.
end/Quote

(That's a start for you! ..)

Grand Trine
"MERCURY" trine 'Jupiter in the 8th',
which both trine Uranus in the 12th.

Then you have
Mercury Pisces square Neptune in the 1st.

(You have a lot of allure?! .. )
Your Sun is in sextile with Chiron in the 5th.
That's really beautiful! Helping people you relate to, to accept themselves.. thus healing wounds.

. .
ruler of your Asc (Sag) in the 8th House (Page 100, 101)
Eighth House .. is quite the test!
.. individual has to undergo many crises of transformation in order to give birth to his or her 'greater good'.
If it is in affliction .. with Venus--
(especially if Venus is in a cardinal sign -- yep, yours is Capricorn-- but WIDE!),
then relationship with money or the 'motivations we have' IN creating relationship, will be profoundly altered.
Certainly, one's sexuality will play a very important role in life...
Strong Jupiter in the Eighth may be an excellent indication of a person who can, through keen eye for investments, make money for other people.
Jupiter here can also reorient a person's philosophical or religious leanings, bringing universality where prejudice, or at the very least, where narrow-mindedness, once reigned.

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tada911
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posted October 12, 2021 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tada911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 30, 2021 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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