posted October 03, 2021 09:26 AM            

I'm up for exchanges in the context of love. Currently in the middle of some 12th house trouble and doubts surfacing 2 questions popped up for me:

1. What type of soul connection is there between me and PHJ? I mean twin flame / soul mate, or just some kind of fleeting karmic bond (not meant to be in my life)?

2. Is this person who I am gonna end up marrying this lifetime a completely new person?

posted October 03, 2021 07:55 PM            

for your first question, I have got:

Wheel of Fortune - Seven of Pentacles - The Devil reversed.
Clarified by: King o f Wands.

With the WoF, I would say that YES, this is a karmic meeting, a soul connection. Seven of Pentacles and the Devil would suggest that there's a karmic debt involved, a past wound healing may be required between the two. King of Wands says that this person is meant to be in your life, but maybe only for a temporary connection. It's also possible that developments and outcome mainly depend on your actions. As for the kind of Soul connection, Devil rx and KoW could suggest a Twin Flame connection rather than a soulmate connection, likely more fleeting than long term.

As for the second question, I have got the Eight of Pentacles reversed.
I would say that this person is not new, but that your relationship may develope in new ways or that he's dedicated and willing to work hard for your relationship to take a new shape compared to the past.

Let me know if this resonates somehow!

If you're up for exchange, my question is:

Will I be in contact with J again or will I be able to meet him again?

posted October 04, 2021 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Emsie,

for your first question, I have got:

Wheel of Fortune - Seven of Pentacles - The Devil reversed.
Clarified by: King of Wands.

With the WoF, I would say that YES, this is a karmic meeting, a soul connection. Seven of Pentacles and the Devil would suggest that there's a karmic debt involved, a past wound healing may be required between the two. King of Wands says that this person is meant to be in your life, but maybe only for a temporary connection. It's also possible that developments and outcome mainly depend on your actions. As for the kind of Soul connection, Devil rx and KoW could suggest a Twin Flame connection rather than a soulmate connection, likely more fleeting than long term.

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Hi Stoika7,

I also tried to make a reading about this question with a deck from a woman called Mahrukh. She is on Etsy, and this particular deck has everything ranging from Passing soulmate to False twin flame. With this deck Karmic came out (signifying debt) and also Passing soulmate and False twin. And I interpreted it to be "debt to be paid with a passing karmic soulmate acting like a false twin.

What's really shocking to me at the moment, that before writing this reply I saw a YT video about limerence from a reader. If you have not seen this word yet, it might worth some research. I am currently thinking that perhaps this Devil reversed might refer to some kind of liberation from it. It's been almost 10 years (WoF) from our first meeting with this person, been waiting on him for a long time (7 of Pents) being in the state of the Devil, but now the Devil is reversed. That King of Wands in a lot of readings usually signifies my father. I surely have father wounds to heal, and this person was the catalyst to launch me into the awakening process many years ago. I am just thinking if we had a temporary soul contract for him to do the "dirty job"

posted October 04, 2021 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
If you're up for exchange, my question is:

Will I be in contact with J again or will I be able to meet him again?

💙

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[Flirt]
[Unrequited love]
[Very soon]
[New love]

Bottom of the deck:
[Separation]

posted October 04, 2021 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Emsie:
Hi Stoika7,

I also tried to make a reading about this question with a deck from a woman called Mahrukh. She is on Etsy, and this particular deck has everything ranging from Passing soulmate to False twin flame. With this deck Karmic came out (signifying debt) and also Passing soulmate and False twin. And I interpreted it to be "debt to be paid with a passing karmic soulmate acting like a false twin.

What's really shocking to me at the moment, that before writing this reply I saw a YT video about limerence from a reader. If you have not seen this word yet, it might worth some research. I am currently thinking that perhaps this Devil reversed might refer to some kind of liberation from it. It's been almost 10 years (WoF) from our first meeting with this person, been waiting on him for a long time (7 of Pents) being in the state of the Devil, but now the Devil is reversed. That King of Wands in a lot of readings usually signifies my father. I surely have father wounds to heal, and this person was the catalyst to launch me into the awakening process many years ago. I am just thinking if we had a temporary soul contract for him to do the "dirty job"

Thank you for the reading and your patience 😊 I'll be back soon with yours. And also try to contemplate a bit on my other question.

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Hey Emsie! I have no clue what "limerence" means, lol, and so I'm curious now what you were shocked about 😁

I actually have used my Native American Vision Quest desk for your questions, which I'm very attached to, I just have translated the card names, so the original cards name were: Small Medicine Wheel, Seven of Earth (Depletion), Torment rx (The Devil)... Yes the Devil rx also gave me the feeling of getting free from something and so maybe something you need to let go, maybe the healing karma with this person has been fulfilled? If you link the King of Fire (Wands) to your father issues, your interpretation sounds spot on, but also the fact that this is a temporary soul connection, not "fleeting", still having an impact in your life, but just carrying a temporary purpose.

Let me know if you want me to pull more cards for the second question. When Eight of Earth came out, I felt kind of satisfied by the answer and didn't feel like I needed more cards, but let me know if you want more!

Thanks so much for your reading!!!

posted October 06, 2021 01:43 AM            

@ILovePoems

posted October 06, 2021 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I actually have used my Native American Vision Quest desk for your questions, which I'm very attached to, I just have translated the card names, so the original cards name were: Small Medicine Wheel, Seven of Earth (Depletion), Torment rx (The Devil)... Yes the Devil rx also gave me the feeling of getting free from something and so maybe something you need to let go, maybe the healing karma with this person has been fulfilled? If you link the King of Fire (Wands) to your father issues, your interpretation sounds spot on, but also the fact that this is a temporary soul connection, not "fleeting", still having an impact in your life, but just carrying a temporary purpose.

Let me know if you want me to pull more cards for the second question. When Eight of Earth came out, I felt kind of satisfied by the answer and didn't feel like I needed more cards, but let me know if you want more!

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I gave your reading some more contemplation, and I realized you used reversals as well. In these cases my father appears in the spread either KoW rx or Emperor rx - he is a very distorted and violent Aries.

As in a lot of readings I appear as the Queen of Wands upright (confident, strong Sag lady with a black cat), I am just thinking if he could actually be my counterpart - and being the opposite of my father (how my father should have behaved as a man instead of how he actually did in the past...) Another thing came to my mind, just some food for thought. The person in question setting me free from the literal torment of my father wound. Especially with the Medicine wheel - healing connection one way or another. All I know we surely had a false start which launched me on my awakening path.

For the other question, it is very strange, because I was also trying to read for myself, and signs referring to the same person came out every time. I've been through a highly emotional and fluctuating few days, it makes me wonder if under emotional distress I should rather put down the decks until things start settling down. (For the first question when I wrote about the false twin and other cards appearing, that wasn't the first layout, it is highly probable that I saw what I wanted to see at that moment - denying and wanting to break free from the connection)

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Yes, this is a separation situation, both physical and time distance, but it's a very important connection to me that I still feel unsolved and I expect more to come, even though I don't know when I'll have such a chance...
The new person and choice you see coming is surprising to me! I'll let you know if this happens 😍
In any case, your cards didn't see any chance of meeting J ever again at all? Maybe the cards don't want me to know ? :-)

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I pulled additional cards from a different deck:

[Waiting game] - How long will you continue to wait? If you find you're not receiving what you want, it's time to practice self-love and walk away

[The test] - You're establishing boundaries testing your limitations

[Lessons] - You have agreed with the other soul to have and provide valuable life lessons for each other in this lifetime. Find the lessons withing this connection

posted October 06, 2021 04:39 PM            

Lightning - Mask

I see here that something unexpected or shocking may happen. Mask indicates something being hidden. It's possible to say that these cards could indicating that someone may feel surprised that something is being kept hidden or someone isn't showing their true feelings, so they hide it because they are scared or feel frightened.

Talking - Not Enough - Camera - Photograph

So it seems that someone wants to talk to the other person but either there is fear here or that they feel they aren't good enough. It could be that they don't have confidence in theirself, so self-esteem issues could be the problem. Camera + Photograph talks about the past, camera talks about their view on things, and it's connected to the past. I'm thinking camera is saying something did happened in the past and they think about it.

So.. I think this person could be from your past or they know you. But please know that I'm not very confident on if they really new or not, it's just the past was with the cards I got so I assume this person probably knows you already.

posted October 07, 2021 04:19 AM            

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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
My question is, what will happen in my love life in the near future?

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[Very soon]
[Passion]
[It is safe for you to love]

Bottom card:
[Heart to heart conversations]

I asked about any events happening for you until the end of 2021 as the end of the year is getting closer and closer.

posted October 07, 2021 04:30 AM            

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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Lightning - Mask

I see here that something unexpected or shocking may happen. Mask indicates something being hidden. It's possible to say that these cards could indicating that someone may feel surprised that something is being kept hidden or someone isn't showing their true feelings, so they hide it because they are scared or feel frightened.

Talking - Not Enough - Camera - Photograph

So it seems that someone wants to talk to the other person but either there is fear here or that they feel they aren't good enough. It could be that they don't have confidence in theirself, so self-esteem issues could be the problem. Camera + Photograph talks about the past, camera talks about their view on things, and it's connected to the past. I'm thinking camera is saying something did happened in the past and they think about it.

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It's funny, because yesterday I got cards that this person in question is possibly even stalking me online. And that he'd like to talk to me to express a lot of things he's kept hidden from me so far, but fear is a major factor. I even got jealousy coming from him for a few times, it makes me think if he thinks I already have someone else in the picture, so he does not want to disturb my life. And at the same time, he wouldn't like to be rejected by me either. It's safer to watch me from a distance.
If this is the person who I am thinking of (back to the 1st question person), no wonder he would not feel good enough. I also got shame and guilt for quite some time from other readings, being ashamed because of previous decisions and how he acted back then.

posted October 07, 2021 08:09 AM            

That's actually interesting, I'm curious about heart to heart conversation. I sorta have a hard time trusting people, so being vulnerable make sense. I wish I can give more feedback, but hopefully I will in the near future.

I do want to mention, the reading I've done for you, I also used a different deck that I had made and the fear card also came out. Now the hard part was that there was this card that I got but I couldn't exactly make sense of it because I thought it meant there was sexual feelings there or maybe there was intimacy between you two or someone wanted to have intimacy. So I didn't end up interpreting the cards and just used a different deck... But maybe I should of included the cards anyway because there was communication or wanting to communicate as well.

posted October 07, 2021 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
I do want to mention, the reading I've done for you, I also used a different deck that I had made and the fear card also came out. Now the hard part was that there was this card that I got but I couldn't exactly make sense of it because I thought it meant there was sexual feelings there or maybe there was intimacy between you two or someone wanted to have intimacy. So I didn't end up interpreting the cards and just used a different deck... But maybe I should of included the cards anyway because there was communication or wanting to communicate as well.

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posted October 07, 2021 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Emsie:
As in a lot of readings I appear as the Queen of Wands upright (confident, strong Sag lady with a black cat), I am just thinking if he could actually be my counterpart - and being the opposite of my father (how my father should have behaved as a man instead of how he actually did in the past...) Another thing came to my mind, just some food for thought. The person in question setting me free from the literal torment of my father wound. Especially with the Medicine wheel - healing connection one way or another. All I know we surely had a false start which launched me on my awakening path.

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Well, you certainly know better than me how these cards can resonate with the situation and the whole background... even though consider that my question to the cards was focused on whether this connection was a soulmate connection and if the person is meant to be in your life. So it doesn't necessarily rule out that this person helped you move on from the issues around your father, but to me it especially says that it was a healing connection (about whatever you can relate such healing to) and that the connection was temporary and for this purpose, so the King Of Wands to me says this is a significant soul connection, even so just temporary.

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Originally posted by Emsie:
For the other question, it is very strange, because I was also trying to read for myself, and signs referring to the same person came out every time. I've been through a highly emotional and fluctuating few days, it makes me wonder if under emotional distress I should rather put down the decks until things start settling down. (For the first question when I wrote about the false twin and other cards appearing, that wasn't the first layout, it is highly probable that I saw what I wanted to see at that moment - denying and wanting to break free from the connection)

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As for your 2nd question, I am not sure it's about the same person you're asking about in the 1rst question? I had assumed it's not... If you have doubts please let me know and I will pull more cards!

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Originally posted by Emsie:
It does not necessarily answer the question, in quite a few cases, when I read for others, I tend to get cards pointing at other important things. From these cards I get that you are still waiting for this person to appear (for closure, or something else), but there is a lesson in this situation where the focus should be, and what you should rather invest time and energy in. I think this ties a bit in the other cards showing a choice with a new person. With the possibility of free will, but we can never know who can provide us a wholesome and healing connection we all deserve.

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