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raj_105_2001
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posted October 13, 2002 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
I am sure many have heard of Anthony Robbins. His book "Awaken the Giant Within" was written in 1999, I have never found a more brilliant analysis of human nature. He has discovered what is termed as the Master System (he might say he invented it, though I prefer to say he discovered it). One of the features of the Master System is Primary Life Question. Every one of us have in us deeply ingrained a Life question to which we tend to seek the answer. If we chose an empowering Life question, it changes our focus as well as makes us resourceful, leading to a multitude of benefits. By changing our Life question, we change ours-elves.

That got me around to think of the Primary Life question of Mankind. Which is obviously : How to get what I want?. Isn't it the quest of kings, saints, masses, even the peasants and beggars? They may differ in what they want, but the question remains the same. Is it possible for mankind to chose a more empowering question, which will take us along the ladder of spiritual evolution much faster? What the question would be?

The beautiful point about changing the primary life question of mankind, is that it doesn't need revolutions, messiahs, heroes, 'magic leaders' or a 'rulebook'. All that is necessary is every man to search within hims-elf for an empowering question. The right question, would induce a massive shift in human consciousness from greed, s-elfishness into more spiritual forms of needs. What this question could be?

I am searching for the answer.

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theFajita
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posted October 13, 2002 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know the better question either, but I would like to "reprogram" myself also!

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juniperb
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posted October 13, 2002 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Raj, my personal question is: "how can I become one with infinite intelligence/God/dess" ? That keeps me focused on spiritual needs vs. physical wants. I realize it doesn`t answer the question for the masses, but I believe it`s a starting point.
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Rainbow~
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posted October 16, 2002 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
juniperb.......you make perfect sense!

....and....brighten up the atmosphere here greatly!!! I for one, appreciate, and am grateful for wonderful spirits such as yours, gracing Linda Land....Thank you for your presence here....


Luv,
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Rainbow~
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posted October 16, 2002 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
juniperb.......your chocolate baby is beautiful....Congratulatons!!!

I hope to see her in person someday....

Luv,
Rainbow~

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raj_105_2001
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posted October 18, 2002 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
juniperb, it could be the question for the masses as well.

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Rainbow~
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posted October 19, 2002 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
"Let the light...shine upon the darkness.."

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raj_105_2001
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posted October 19, 2002 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
I have hit upon the Primary Life Question of Mankind that in reality is very simple. It is Universal for believers, aethists as well as non believers. I wouldn't say it, because unless you dis-covered it yours-elf, you wouldn't understand it.

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted October 19, 2002 11:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message
You're kind of entertaining on occasion, raj! The rest of the time I don't understand you! *no offense*

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Rainbow~
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posted October 20, 2002 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
......but the fact is, the optional question is necessary to fathom the basic necessities of the inner world, thereby grocking the individual into a reality that is understandable not only to himself, but to the nether entities which surround the darker aura of the ego, standing alone and not altogehter within themselves. So I would think that the bigger issue here is that one does not necessarily breathe all the etheric atoms of right and wrong, but the more material atoms of yes and no, on the whole. Doesn't that sound reasonable???

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Rainbow~
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posted October 21, 2002 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
On the other hand, the whole basic concept of whether or not the true essence of the logical mind can comprehand the images of fractions, butterfly wings and grass stains, as compared to say, a sizzling steak, and if it can, then will it have any effect on the borderline free will of any entity? One would think the absolute would mean that there is no such thing as infinity or any other such theory, when you compare that with finites such as rocks. Now rocks...that is a whole different ball of wax... But let's not go there now. We are into some real deep stuff, so let's get back to it....Now is it clear? The mind is forever running and never turned off...not even when sleeping, so consequently the mind and heart are quite intertwined since the heart never rests either, therefore when one comes to a stop, so does the other, but let's hope that doesn't happen at this time, as it will leave no time to explore the infinite possibilites of foreverness which most certainy is, proof positive being that we are here right now; this minute being part of forever, and isn't that a grand feeling? So if I've made myself perfectly clear I'll stop for now, and think on it some more tomorrow....

Luv,
Rainbow (I think)......
..................................therefore I am....

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pearly
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posted October 21, 2002 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pearly     Edit/Delete Message

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Rainbow~
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posted October 21, 2002 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Pearly......I'm so glad darling, that you were able to relate to my sudden flood of magnificantly valuable insight....(the full moon always helps me on these things)......

Sometimes my own brilliance, overwhelms me..

Luv,
Rainbow~

(Oh I hope and pray that this doesn't get deleted, as were some of my other posts..elsewhere on this site...seems we are not as free to speak here, as we were once led to believe. *sigh*)

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aquamoon
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posted October 21, 2002 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquamoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Rainbow!! I'm so glad you changed your mind and decided to stay!!

P.S. Some of your posts gone missing? Ah well, probably just the overwhelmingly brilliant ones!


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Cat
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posted October 21, 2002 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Rainbow
I'm glad you've decided to stay around
I'm just on my way out but just wanted to let you know that no posts have been deleted. During the Merc Retro, Randall had some problems with the site. Quite a few people's posts went missing (some of mine as well).
I hope thing's are good with you
Sue

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Rainbow~
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posted October 21, 2002 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
My father ask me to delete this post, so I am following his wishes....

God be with you all....

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Rainbow~
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posted October 21, 2002 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Cat.....it didn't happen here.....it happened over on the forum, which is moderated by RA.

He suggested the deletion to Amber, since I was trying to give her some advice, and Randall told him to go ahead and do it, as he backed his moderators 100%....one hundred percent....and viola! They were gone just like that...

Amber was disucssing a dream she kept having about the World Trade Center Towers....which was far in excess of normal, so I suggested she see a professional about it....and while well intentioned, I guess it didn't set right with her...*sigh*....consequently, my thoughts were disintigrated kind of like something out of George Orewell's book "1984"....remember when you weren't allowed to think?

eeeee...very scary....

But that's the story...thanks for being concerned, Cat....I've known you for quite awhile, and you are a good, sincere, intelligent and caring person...

Luv,
Rainbow~

Ps...I hope this stays around along enough for you to see it...*sigh*

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Rainbow~
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posted October 21, 2002 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
At my father's request I have deleted this post...

May God be with you all....

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deanna
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posted October 21, 2002 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deanna     Edit/Delete Message
Avatar lessons for a better world:

1 when I am quick to find the error in others, I have failed to correct myself.

2 when MY acts are designed to persuade another, I doubt myself.

3 when I experience struggle with the world (or MY world) I have denied responsibility for MY OWN creations.

4 when I feel separate and alone, I have failed to forgive.

5 when events repeat themselves in my life, there is a lesson I need to learn.........................................anyways.........what was the question? Oh yeah, "What is THE question" is the question. That's a DOOZY! Gonna have to contemplate that one for a day or so!! raj I think this is a wonderful topic, I hope it doesn't get lost in all the "soap bubbles"

peace,
Deanna

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted October 21, 2002 07:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message

Deanna ~
I think you have good points. Thank you.

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juniperb
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posted October 21, 2002 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
My word Randall isn`t going to ban you! I can`t believe it. Why if he did, he`d have to ban others who HAVE hurt intentionally. Didn`t he let dark angel speak her mind; and ouch, we all got her message. I`ll let the example go at that.
Your love and kindness have been deeply felt by many. Cappy to cappy, I`m sure Randall sees your heart Yes,currently lindaland feels more like a personal tete-a-tete than a home for Linda Goodman... but, please remember that which is built on air, drifts in the wind and dissipates. That which is built on solid grounds remains forever... I hope you remain forever
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Rainbow~
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posted October 21, 2002 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Deanna.........it was nice of you to express your opinon of me via your avater, but if I may, I'd like to address each of his "lessons."

1. I am not quick to judge others. There are people who have known me for years on these forums, who can tell you that. I am also not a child. I have lived to see my 65th birthday, and while thru the years, I have always given everybody the benefit of a doubt, since it's not my nature to be suspicious or judgemental of people, I am discerning enough at this point in my life, to be aware of when something is not on the up and up...it comes with experience....not QUICK JUDGEMENT!....and I will be the first to tell you that I realize I am far from perfect,and there is no doubt that there is much about myself that still needs a lot of correction, as I continue my journey on this planet.

2. When my acts are designed to persuade another,.....it most certainly is NOT because I doubt myself! ! ! I was merely trying to persuade those innocent ones who have been victims of an elaborate hoax, of their plight, obviously a huge mistake on my part, as it seems obvious now that those who have been taken advantage of, don't really want to know that they have been taken advantage of. Fine! I apologize for sticking my nose in. I just always thought that when one saw a WRONG, they were supposed to try and RIGHT it.

3. I am not experiencing struggle with the world...my world is fine.
However I could see potential trouble in a world that I was a small part of for awhile, and it had nothing at all to do with my own personal struggle. As far as responsibilty goes, I thought it was my responsibility to clue some people in...big mistake!

4. I do not feel separate and alone. I feel fine. And while in my heart I try to convince myself that I have forgiven those who required forgiveness, maybe I haven't totally come to terms with that yet (because after all, I am still only human, having not "corrected" all those little flaws yet, that still make me human). Often the way for me to deal with that is to ask, "What would Christ do?" and it makes the act of forgiveness, easier.. *sigh*

5. I suppose the way to put a hold on "certain events" repeating themselves in my life, is to walk away from certain internet forums where those who continue to "cause those events" abide. The events aren't life-threatening. They probably aren't even seriously harmful. Actually, compared to the much more alarming things going on in the world today, they don't even rank as anything to make a fuss about, they are so low on the scale of mischief. Therefore, I won't try to smack at the mosquitos anymore....I'll merely walk out of the swamp.

So Deanna, I'm sorry to have side-tracked you, so that you don't even remember the question....just go back to the first post, and you'll get it....and thank you for the words of wisdom from avatar. I'm glad I was able to address each of his "lessons."

peace,

Rainbow~

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posted October 21, 2002 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deanna     Edit/Delete Message
Rainbow,
Hi...thanks for your reply. I was not expressing an opinion of you I was correcting myself, you see, my opinion is that this string is one raj started about a life question for humanity and all of a sudden it has become a soapbox for you, an inappropriate place to air out dirty laundry an issue I think should be kept between you and the moderators. When you post it for all to see it seems like your spreading ill will about these forums and Ra in particular. I don't know why I was so aggravated by your post's (not the amazingly brilliant one's,I loved those) they just had me "in a ruckus" for about an hour or so. So I had to re-member that I need not judge you, criticize you, persuade you, or create an enemy out of you before we are even friends. I posted what I posted so as not to post anything critical and to correct myself, and be forgiving and compassionate towards you and hope that maybe you would get something out of it as well. I posted something really insightful once on a Taoist forum and about the second or third post someone brought up something personal and of a "ruckus" nature and my whole point was lost and other points of view were not shared because of the irrelevent soap opera that came out instead. I was just feeling some compassion towards raj and his post getting lost. I'm just being honest with you, and not criticizing I hope you don't take offense> I hope we can get off to a good start, and be friends. I hear you are a fellow Cappy I am too as well as Native American descent. You have got to have some Gemini going on too!!!!!!!! Like I said before, we're way off subject of the original post OOPS IS MY VIRGO SHOWING? so I will shut up and hope that some good Primary Life questions come up and points of view to learn from.

Peace and Love
Dee

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Rainbow~
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posted October 21, 2002 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
juniperb.....*sigh*...your friendly presence here is like a breath of fresh air, and your sincere and friendly words are like music to my ears.....

I appreciate what I feel is your support....I also wanted to say, that I do understand that there are a lot of new people here, who have no idea of the history that has gone down on these forums in the past...and therefore not aware of the "trickery" that has taken place before...not once, but many times...so they aren't to be blamed for MISunderstanding my honorable intentions.....*sigh*

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posted October 21, 2002 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pearly     Edit/Delete Message
Rainbow

I don't know what to say, I feel like I want to somehow get to the bottom of it all or at least reach some solution to this whole issue you have been facing, because I know your intentions are pure... also, I don't think that Randall would ban you. I don't think it was a right decision to delete your posts in the other forum... I am sure that was very frustrating.

In regards to Deanna's post to you above, I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that she may be unaware of the exact issue at hand and didn't mean that in a rude way. I could be wrong but I have talked to her before and she seemed like a pretty understanding spirit. (Hi Deanna...)

As far as this particular topic is concerned, I thought your response above was witty and I appreciated the humor, as I do not take well to the "riddles" of raj's topics alot of the time. ...and I'm sure he knows that, that's why he does it. But for better or worse, he is here and contributing and I feel like I can skip over what I want... that is the beauty of freedom.


I guess the ultimate thing to realize is that even if certain users were all one person or not, it essentially doesn't matter. It is nearly impossible to keep on top of it and try to monitor new sign ups because it can be done so easily and is a public WWW board. I see new names all the time and I just try to use my intuition when interacting with them. Who knows? Maybe I've been suckered into looking at fake charts, or will be in the future. But the main thing is to weigh the good versus the negative and see which I am getting more of here. So far, I feel like MOST everyone here tries to offer knowledge, love and kindness. When I do run across the others, all I can do is hope that by example of all the good here that eventually they will find a better way. I have alot of faith that most people here also know how to spot negativity themselves and place themselves away from it.

At this point in my note here, I would like to bring up Amber, as I know there is a big entanglement here (I hope you don't mind Amber...). I just want to say that, Rainbow, I live in LA, I'd be happy to go meet her for you, so you feel safer here because I know you have had bad experiences. As an observation though, I just want to add that I feel her posts have been genuine (and at least positive and helpful). Even if they are not and she is involved with the group of tricksters (not saying she is), it doesn't really matter. Really, it doesn't. There has got to be a way to accept this and forgive.
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It is hard not to react to certain people when they are purposely searching for a rise out of you... but don't let anyone take the beautiful LIGHT you have away from you! It will only serve them well, as anyone doing that is probably having a hard time reaching toward enlightenment themselves and maybe it makes them feel better to know they can easily steal it away from others so that they are not alone in negativity. I don't know really, but I do know there is a multitude of karmic debts being played out here and there needs to be some transcendence with it all, in my opinion.

Trust me Rainbow, your positive love is so valuable here... I would really be sad if this couldn't be overcome and you didn't want to post here anymore. I know others feel the same way, as I have seen many posts in support of you. What do you think of this??

Maybe someone else will have something to say about this as well, OR maybe we could start a new topic to really get through all this, so it isn't getting confused and lost within the boards. (??)

Love,
Pearl

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