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Topic: What an Identity is
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raj_105_2001
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From: Chennai
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted October 18, 2002 12:46 PM
 
Carl Jung speaks about Transcendental Function, which is the true identity of a person, which Stephen Covey refers to as the Changeless Inner Core. Psychology refers to it as the Natural Child.As Covey points out in all of his books the Natural Child / Transcendental Function is suppressed by parental scripts, parental recordings (which is established by Transactional Analysis as well as explained in I am Ok - You are Ok by Thomas A Harris). Thus there is a vast difference between the Synthetic Identity as comes from parental directions, and the Real Identity which is established by Nature. The Truth is the Majority of Earth beings are Synthetic, which means much of their identity doesn't stem from the Transcendental Function but rather from the unevolved scripts coming from the parents. Which means those who are yet evolving possess the synthetic identity and their real identity is unknown even to thems-elves. Spiritual evolution, is in actuality is the emergence of the Transcendental Function, which is buried too far for the majority of the Earthlings.
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juniperb
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From: www.Heaven.Home
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posted October 20, 2002 09:24 AM
OK Raj, I`ll stick my neck out 
You repeat the authors opinions of Synthetic/transcendental identity.
You used the word "majority"; not having read the book, is this your word or there`s??
I ask because I`m wondering whose opinion (judgement?) it is that states "unevolved scripts" from parents as a blanket statement. If one was to believe that mundane existence, where does karmic influence, free will, destiny, fate, et al fit in? 
I`m sincerely asking your opinion Raj, not the authors!
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Cat
Moderator Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted October 20, 2002 11:25 AM
Hi Raj 
This is a very interesting topic.
Have you studied Freud, Jung etc?
I am currently studying Humanistic Therapy/Psychology aka Rogers and Maslow.It's very interesting to see how the different people view psychotherapy and psychology.
Sue 
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raj_105_2001
Knowflake Posts: 1219
From: Chennai
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted October 20, 2002 12:56 PM
Thanks for pointing it out juniperb! It is one of my - simply stating what others say and not expressing my opinion.Yes, juniperb, most parents on earth are unevolved. Indeed it is one of the current problems. I am not being judgemental here, don't mis-take me. The Transcendental Function is closely related to the Third Eye and Inner Ear. The Transcendental Function never forces its-elf into any brain, when it is unwelcome, it simply resides to the background and waits.
Most human beings on Earth do not bother to access or listen to it. I am Ok You are Ok is a significant breakthrough, as important as relativity. Yet the major breakthrough and explosive shift in paradigm, is yet to come. I happened to read Canto 20 in Goooberz. Linda describes a strange land where the humans are the pets of animals. It is a real planet, I have been there, but most of us "do not re-member".
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Cat
Moderator Posts: 3307
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posted October 20, 2002 04:38 PM
proxieme?????
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Rainbow~
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From: an enchanted cottage by the sea
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted October 20, 2002 09:04 PM
.....raj can "sense" that Proxieme is here.....because of the "special magical psychic powers" he possesses.....She may not have posted here materially....but she didn't have to....he picked up her psychic thoughts and then replied to her here, just to show off his supernatural ablities, thereby giving us no cause to doubt him and his very greatness, and wisdom and power...*sigh*  Luv,  rainy-bow
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raj_105_2001
Knowflake Posts: 1219
From: Chennai
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted October 22, 2002 11:35 AM
Sorry it was juniperb. I will edit the post. Plz bear with me.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted October 22, 2002 01:26 PM
You said yes Raj ,so I`m taking it as your opinion and YES I agree that it awaits to be recognized and does not force it`s-elf. I do believe, as we ride into the age of aquarius, that more and more will see and hear the rhythms of the universe. I also believe that includes parents Raj. I have faith that the entire world is enlightening and while it may not be soon enough for those of us who had "unevolved" parents, think about the future and how glorious it will be for our heirs 
Sadly,I cannot change the past Raj, but we have so much to do to help with the evolving generations ahead!!
Sorry, I kind of got off the subject, but I have such hope for the future. Instead of seeing a problem, I prefer to see ahead to an enlightened world of peace and love.
I am very interested in your answer to my question of free will/karma ect. vs. synthetic identity.
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Freedom
Knowflake Posts: 35
From: From the land of milk and honey
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted October 28, 2002 06:31 PM
I am sure that everyone here will agree that when we are born, certain planetary influences have a lot to do with who we are, and we are also aware that evnironment plays a huge part in shaping us. I'm wondering what would happen if a child were to be abandoned and left in the wild to fend for itself, with no parental influence. Would he then be free from synthetic identy and be a TRUE natural child? This would be something like the Tarzan character, no? In love and light,
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raj_105_2001
Knowflake Posts: 1219
From: Chennai
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted October 29, 2002 11:40 AM
juniperb, here's something to cheer you up."If some people think Love and Peace, are cliches to be left behind in the 60s, it is their problem. Love and Peace are Eternal."
(it may not be the exact wordings)
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raj_105_2001
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From: Chennai
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posted October 29, 2002 11:48 AM
Sorry I didn't note it first. Let me rephrase your question, see whether I got it right. Is the Synthetic Identity being influenced by karma or does it have free will? The Synthetic Child does have Free will. For one thing karma and free will aren't related, they may cross each other at times, but they aren't foes of each other. Or may be you are asking Does the Transcendental Identity have a free will? Transcendence is the very originality and uniqueness of each one's being, which means it cannot be changed - it may or may not be related to karma. Transcendence is eternal, permanent and changeless core which is why it is willing to reside to the background and wait. I hope it answers your question.IP: Logged |
Freedom
Knowflake Posts: 35
From: From the land of milk and honey
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 03, 2002 05:32 PM
Did the question asked here, get answered to everyone's satisfaction? I don't think mine was, but then I'm not sitting with a panel of experts. It was rather fun, all he same. In love and light,
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