posted October 21, 2002 10:18 PM           

First of all.. Pearly! Thank you for your post in raj's thread. I'm not always great with words and I get tangled in them sometimes or come across the wrong way. Your post was full of understanding to Rainbow and to me. Thank you Thank you.

I debated starting to this thread but it is due. Not as a debate thread but just a thread to get to the bottom of it already. I really enjoy this forum and don't want to have to feel stressed to see a post by Rainbow because of worry she'll say something else misguided about me or my friends. I don't want her to feel she has to leave the board or anything else. That doesn't solve anything.

I am willing go the extra mile to straighten this out. If anyone has suggestions I'm more than open to them.

Pearly ~ I'd be happy to meet you. I don't know that it would put Rainbow's fears to rest but at the very least we can both have a nice lunch or dinner and get to meet someone else from the board. Weekends are always good for me. Preferably Saturdays!

~blessings~

posted October 21, 2002 11:10 PM         

So if you and Pearly meet up, come downstairs before you go so I can say hi, seeing as my actually accompaning you two to lunch would be reeeeeeeeeally hard *wishes for a babysitter AGAIN*.

But you do realize that no matter WHO Pearly meets, Rainbow will never believe, even if Rainbow met us herself she would never believe that we simply had the misfortune to register on this board in the middle of her distrustful phase. She doesn't want to admit that in this instance, she has made a mistake.

And to address something she said on the other thread... She said she has never been quick to judge but unfortunately that is not true as her very first posts to us were accusatory and rude and mistrustful. And all we had said was "hi".

And, in case Rainbow reads this, my grandmother is full blooded Choctaw and she taught me never to respect an elder that didn't deserve it. Just because you have lived longer doesn't mean that you are inherently correct or worthy of respect. Everyone, old and young, has to earn that honor. To immediately accuse a stranger of maliciousness, to hound them on forum after forum, to go on and on about how you are the only truth bearer present and that you are trying to shine the light to show that we are in cahoots with a very disturbed individual is insulting and not worthy of the respect that you think you so richly deserve simply by merit of being older, Native American and on the board longer.

But then, you don't want my respect so none of the above will matter to you one iota. But I am so very tired of being maligned by you. You have no proof of my supposed culpablity here because there is no proof to be found. I have never lied about who I am or who I know. You have jumped from one wild conclusion to another simply for sport. And now you are questioning Ra's "credentials" simply because he didn't like what you were doing on a forum of his and chose to delete your posts. He deleted a couple of mine from that thread and I have no problem with that.

To everyone reading this little diatribe, I know this is not the spirit that this board was founded in. I guess I should apologize for defending myself and my friends, thereby adding to the completely unnecessary drama that was started here simply because we showed up and started posting. I came to this board because a friend thought I would like it here, that I could share and learn here. With the exception of one person that is purposely harrassing us I have found the members here to be completely delightful, charming and full of wisdom about things that I am so clueless on and that I very much like to learn. I truly appreciate all that has been shared here so willingly and I hope that my posts where (for once) I am not asking for help, have been helpful to someone else.

I sincerely hope everyone here reading this tonight has a lovely night/day. That a bit of universal wisdom and enlightenment will seep into your bones and blood, enriching you a little more

posted October 21, 2002 11:52 PM         

Anyway, this is good. Amber, Snow White.... I'd be happy to meet you both, sounds like fun! I know you don't think it would help Rainbow, but maybe it would give her some peace of mind. Never know... In her defense though, I would just like to add that she HAS been hurt by a specific person and her feelings ARE valid. I know it's alot to ask, but try to understand...

I just think, like mentioned above, that the timing was bad... and some strange coincidences have made her worry perhaps more than is needed.... but you should know that that is all it is. I'm sure Rainbow will have something to say on this... and I KNOW her intent was not to harm the board, only protect. Maybe you will be able to forgive and not take it personally irregardless of how she decides to respond now.... I have seen you both respond kindly to some harsh posts and recognize that you have a right to feel upset, but like I said before.... there may be some karmic stuff going on here and lessons waiting on the sidelines, so I just want to encourage you to truly forgive. Actually... everyone, I want to put that out there for everyone, including myself.

posted October 22, 2002 12:01 AM         

I hadn't planned to say another word really and had tried to just ignore any other posts. I guess my problem is I have a hard time ignoring what just won't stop :-p

And I have posted several times that I think that it's awful that someone did this to her. She's just attacking a couple of innocent people and doing to them what was done to her. I do, like Amber posted, get a sick feeling everytime I see her name on a thread I'm reading or responding to. I am always thinking "what horrid thing is she going to say about us now?" or what insinuation is she going to make, etc and etc.

I've wanted this to end from the moment we found out what she was attacking us for. Before we knew her cause I thought she was just being weird in her posts, but I am used to weird people... I do post on rock and roll forums after all But once we knew what was up and stated several times that we were not who she wanted us to be... and she just wouldn't stop... well I know you see where this is going. *sigh*

my email is located in my profile if you wanna set something up or chat or whatever, though like I said, I'll more than likely just be able to say "hi" LOL...

posted October 22, 2002 01:24 AM         

Since you and Amber and Kian all agree to meet, I think it would be wonderful.......maybe the karmic part of all of this was to get the three of you to meet. ....who knows????

So now Amber, if Pearly tells us that she has actually seen you and Kian in flesh and blood, and has talked with you.....I'm going to be eating a lot of crow, mixed in with eating some humble pie for dessert, and manage to get egg on my face all at the same time, not to mention apologizing profusely for making a huge mistake....and that's okay.......I can do it.....

Now whether you girls forgive me or not, for making a huge mistake will be up to you two....if you don't it will not hurt my feelings...I will understand....

So now? When is this going to happen????

Luv,
Rainbow
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posted October 22, 2002 12:56 AM
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Pearly............you've make perfect sense....I mean it is totally awesome to be exposed to a mind that sees everything so clearly in this tangled, mixed-up, mess! *sigh* You are tuly an extraordinary soul.
Now, about Randall "banning" me....I guess I didn't mean "officially" banning me, like shutting me out....but just figured he was probably about to ask me politely to leave, which on the second thought, really is kind of the same thing, when you come to think of it, I guess...*sigh*

I have no anomosity toward Deanna. She was just trying to be helpful...

...and yes, it was frustrating to have my posts deleted...*sigh*....but Ra is very "tight" with the Glamor Junkies as they like to call themselves, so he it was his idea to delete my posts. *sigh*

I think it's odd that you should use the word "riddle" in connection with raj....as that is the way ACE YELLOW identified himself over on Greg's Concsious Evolution thread. He called himself THE RIDDLER, and commenced to post riddles on the thread...hmmm.............and of course, with you not taking to raj's riddles yourself, you understood perfectly why I came up with my MAGNIFICENTLY VALUABLE INSIGHT....*smile*

Pearl, I really admire your ability to "toss out the bathwater" and and save the baby....I have to work on that virtue...yes, there is a beauty in freedom...and yes, you're right, for better or worse...raj is here....but whether comtributing, remains to be seen. Perhaps at times he does come up with a bit of food for thought, but when it came right down to it, Ace was a very BRILLIANT fellow too, and at times would come up with profound pearls of wisdom (no pun intended...tee hee), but then would often be eratic too.....as raj was with jwhop and Aprhodite on another thread. So when similiarities crop up like that, it gives one cause to wonder.....in fact it was Aprhodite who shouted out in her post..."ACE?" when she recognized the similiarities.............*sigh*.........but it seems that raj is not causing anyone any trouble and people here accept him, no matter who is is, and so it's none of my business if he is here...mascarading....

It's just that some of the longer posters here know how much Randall and Auriel didn't want Ace around, since he was causing her a lot of grief....and that WAS MADE PUBLIC ON THIS SITE...so it's no secret. I just figured it wasn't "kosher" to feel one way about a person, and then turn around and welcome that same person with open arms, just because they are wearing a mask....on the other hand (and I hadn't thought of this before), maybe they were aware of the mask, and allowed the new identity to come in as a moderater anyway, since they are probably very forgiving people, and probably forgave him, which is what this site is all about anyway, isn't it??? Oh...and here I am being so small!!!!

...and Pearl you are absolutely right! It really doesn't matter if certain posters are all one person, even tho it does smack of deception (which somehow rubs me the wrong way). But I shouldn't allow it...I should be more like you, and skip over what I want with that beauty you spoke of, that freedom allows...oh you are soooo cool lady....

I thnk you are right too, about certain people here, steering away from the negativity.

Pearl you are a dear...to suggest meeting Amber....and that's doing an awful lot for some cyber person (me) who you have a lot of faith in...I did not know you lived in LA, but that does make it easier for you to meet her, if you really want to do that. That's entirely up to you...(and her)....

On that note, dear sweet understanding person, I will bring this long,long post to a close....do let me know how the "mad tea party" turns out...(just a little humor...nothing for anyone to get their knickers in a knot about)...

posted October 22, 2002 01:35 AM         

that is a very cool thing for you to say.

I haven't yet heard from Pearly, but I don't know what kind of hours she keeps here.

If once she posts that she has met us and if you feel that she is being truthful and honest and state such then I would love to be able to start fresh with you, forgetting all the negative posts (from both sides).

posted October 22, 2002 01:02 PM           

Weekdays are usually good after 8pm. And Sundays will work if it's after 7pm. If you'd like to meet me here at the apartment I'm comfortable with that and I can take you downstairs to meet Kian (like Kian mentioned already). However, I understand completely if you'd rather not meet like that and would rather it be a more public place. Also, if you'd like to bring someone that's fine, too. It can be a little intimidating meeting people online for the first time unless you've known them a long time.

~blessings~

posted October 22, 2002 03:12 PM         

Cat
I saw your message on the other topic, and just wanted to say I am very sorry that I contributed to the mess. You don't deserve the issue in your forum... I apologize for my part in it. I'm hoping, just like you, that it can be put to rest and forgiven. I just wanted to help out because I am in LA and I like Rainbow alot and I also have enjoyed Amber & Kian. Anything else I say on this, I will restrict to this topic. I don't like it to interfere with other topics as well.

Above and beyond that, I wanted to ask (because I remember you mentioning it)... how is your girlfriend doing? I hope you are doing ok... Much light and love to you, her, and the families.

posted October 22, 2002 04:16 PM         

I just hope we can all work this out and that everyone will be happy

posted October 23, 2002 04:46 PM           

Well Rainbow says she's leaving the board, unfortunately, before any of this can be resolved. Of course I would still LOVE to see pearly and I would LOVE to see you!

My email is in my profile. You can email me anytime and let me know your schedule so we can arrange something.

posted October 23, 2002 09:09 PM         

now, I'm not in LA...who is in Virginia here? Anyone? Thankfully, I am NOT in the DC area, but I'm willing to meet up with someone to put an end to this as well...is anyone near me?

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When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall, always.

- Mahatma Gandhi

posted October 23, 2002 11:31 PM         

Kian...surely you can use the same baby sitter who watches your children, while you work...for just one evening...(just a suggestion)

Foxxy....I'm preplexed as to why you have not even met Spiritua yet, who lives right in your very own city...speaking of meeting Know Flakes...(just an observation)

Just because I'm leaving the board, does not mean I do not want to find out how this all turns out...I'm intrigued...of course...

posted October 26, 2002 08:20 PM         

Rainbow has suggested to me many times that I register and join in the discussions here, since I am a huge fan of Linda Goodman's and also enjoy the many benefits of astrology.

It took a bit of "lurking" and getting to know what this site was all about before I finally decided to register and become a part of it, but sadly it seems to coincide with Rainbows departure.

Rainbow is a very good friend of mine, and it disturbs me to find that there are some here who don't quite "get" what she has been trying to do. Believe me if you knew her as I do, you'd know that what she was trying to do, was NOT to come in here and cause trouble! It's sad to see how terribly events unfolded, because of her courage. I have utmost faith in her and her psychic flashes and intuitions. Rainbow, I am right behind you, honey.

posted October 29, 2002 12:06 AM         

I'm in San Francisco right now and will be here for most of tomorrow as well. The bus I'm taking goes through Los Angeles the day after tomorrow at 7am (early eh?)

My final destination is Las Vegas (funnily enough to meet people who I used to play with regularly on ezboards) and because they're relatively close there is probably a zillion and one connections and it would therefore be no big deal for me to hang around LA and get to see it a bit.

I'll attempt to send you both emails, the system I'm on right now will only let me have one window at a time, and I'm lacking a pen, however if you can, or if you want to maybe we can still hook up? You can yes or no me here, and email me, I think the addy that I have up top is the right one but just in case

arianafoxx(nospam)@hotmail.com

I will definitly be checking in tomorrow, between alcatraz and the SFMOMA.

As for why I have as yet to meet Spiritua, well, good question LOL It never came up?
I'd love to get together with toronto area Linda Land people, I'll be back in the city on the 17th, and maybe rested enough to do stuff by the 20th LOL

*edit*

posted October 29, 2002 12:14 AM           

I won't be able to GO anywhere until after 8pm on a weeknight because I won't have a car. If after 8pm is cool for you then we can meet up somewhere. If you'd like to some meet up here at the apartment... Kian lives right downstairs... you can do that before 8pm if you feel comfortable doing that! I'll be here just with Hunter most of the day tomorrow and the next day. Kian is usually home by 4 or 5pm.

well.. I'll email you too!

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Come take my hand ..You should know me ..I've always been in your mind ..You know that I'll be kind ..I'll be guiding you ..You have to believe we are magic ..Nothin' can stand in our way ..You have to believe we are magic ..Don't let your aim ever stray ..And if all your hopes survive ..Your destiny will arrive ..I'll bring all your dreams alive ..For you

posted October 29, 2002 05:53 PM         

WHINE POUT WHINE POUT!

Ambah..you gotta find a way to get to Chicago!! We gotta figure a way out for that...coz I know Kevin wants to meet you too! And the city is such a grand place to meet up! Halfway for both of us!
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When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall, always.

- Mahatma Gandhi

posted October 29, 2002 06:02 PM           

I got an email from Foxxy this morning saying she was gonna eat breakfast and head on over. That was 5 hours ago so I'm hoping she's not lost or something!! *frets*

posted October 30, 2002 02:45 PM         

Today was the day . .
I got in at seven and didn't want to call before 10, I hate being woken up so I try not to do it to other people.

I've been trying the number you emailed me but it hasn't worked