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QueenofSheeba
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posted December 15, 2003 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for QueenofSheeba     Edit/Delete Message
I'm wondering, and my primary sense is that it isn't. By influencing someone's decisions in anything, your are taking away from their free will. You can do the same thing by trying to tell someone what to do, but when you do that they are aware of it and can counteract it intentionally. With magic, they are unaware. It's a form of manipulation.
Guess what I'm thinking about here, people.
Love magic.
It's never worked for me so far, but I keep trying anyway (I'm that desperate ). If it does work someday, will it be ethical?

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La-Tee-Da
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posted December 16, 2003 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La-Tee-Da     Edit/Delete Message
QoS......magic is a beautiful art, BUT it must never be misused. Manipulation is very much counter-Universal law. When you try to manipulate, it: a. either won't work, as you have expressed, or b. it will blow up in your face with dire consequences! Be careful.

I know of a young man that did a love spell for a girl named Theresa, that he was wild about. The spell backfired and Theresa hated him, BUT a girl named Crystal became obsessed with him...to the point of trying to commit suicide, twice and stalking him and destroying his property. She eventually stopped, when the spell was reversed by a wise old Voo-Doo woman.

So, my Sweet, be careful. Perhaps prayer and meditation will serve your purpose better. Turn over your desires to the Universe and allow the Universe to work it's magic for you.

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juniperb
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posted December 16, 2003 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
You`re a very wise woman

QOS, the uni-verse is waiting to fill your needs Love and respect it and it will double back the love and respect

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2003 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
You can ask for Love, but you must not target anyone in particular, for if you do, you won't like what you get.

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juniperb
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posted December 16, 2003 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
QOS, Oddly enough, I stumbled on this link today. I haven`t really checked it out but here it is
http://www.soulworkings.com/new_moon_check.html

juniperb

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StarLover33
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posted December 16, 2003 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
If you attempt to control others, be aware that Karma will get others to control you.

I wish the Universe would give me LOVE for once, or maybe tell me what to do with my life.

-StarLover

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Randall
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posted December 17, 2003 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Star, even though you are years ahead of your peers, you are still very young, nonetheless. You'll find romance soon enough.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted December 17, 2003 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for QueenofSheeba     Edit/Delete Message
I've been warned, LTD. I won't try anything dangerous.
juni- fortunately, I'm pretty well loaded $ wise, but I'll save that idea-technique for a rainy day. Thanks!

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super_bull
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posted December 19, 2003 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for super_bull     Edit/Delete Message
i loved what u said LTD

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Aselzion
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posted December 23, 2003 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

I am in agreement with Randall, that it is well permissible to do a spell for Love in general, but that if you have a specific someone in mind, then in my mind that becomes Black Magic. Now this is not to say that you cannot ask for a SPECIFIC type of person, or certain traits that you would require in a relationship. To know exactly what you want in a person or from a relationship is actually IDEAL when casting out for Love.

When the natural Force, that we call magic is utilized to bend another's will, one has stepped on to the Left-hand Path, as it were.

Further... would you really want someone that you caused to love you through the use of magic?

Just a thought...

In the Light...
A

P.S. On that note, I have a funny anecdote about a wicca-wannabee friend of mine. She made a love potion that she was conspiring to put in the drink of her intended. Well, the long and short of it was that he probably only got one sip of the drink, and then for some "mysterious reason" almost all of his circle of friends and acquaintances "just had to have a sip of this drink". Upshot, she never got the guy, and no, no one else even showed a glimmer of interest that night.
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vinita
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posted November 29, 2004 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vinita     Edit/Delete Message
someone once told me when u pray dont u use flowers n candles and incense???
then why make such a big deal of spells they are also a type of prayer....
i dont know till where i agree with it but it makes u wanna think besides....i think universe has a plan if u do the spell...u r meant to do it!!!
but there are so many times that the spells dont work!!!

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Randall
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posted November 30, 2004 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
What Aselzion said.

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Hecate
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posted December 21, 2004 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hecate     Edit/Delete Message

I see spells as energy/visualization sent out to the universe. The results are unexpected at times, when one isn't clear as to the intent. I agree with Randall, a spell to bring love into ones life is good. A spell to have a specific person come to you, well that depends on you. I've seen people do those spells, only to have the enchanted lover snap out of the lovesickness evenutally. I believe thats what those spells do, bring illusion not real love.

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Randall
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posted December 22, 2004 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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