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Gia
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posted June 04, 2004 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
What does this mean?


11 X 3 = 33

solve this riddle and it will set you free.

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posted June 04, 2004 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Everlong     Edit/Delete Message
Heh, I have a bit of a theory.

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posted June 05, 2004 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message

What is it?

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posted June 05, 2004 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Everlong     Edit/Delete Message
It's just something that popped into my head when I read that. 1, in Numerology, is the number for the Sun, right? The Sun personifies everything, gives it light, etc. When you multiply a number by 1, it stays that number, but when you multipy it by 11, a double influence of the Sun, it turns into a double-digit of that same number, because the Sun is personifying it even more, adding more light to it.

Does that make any sense? Heh, it did in my head.

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posted June 06, 2004 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
What does 11x3 look like? Can you draw a picture of it? What would that picture look like?

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posted June 06, 2004 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I think I understand. Clever. I never thought of looking at it from a visual point of view. I'll remember that.

Everlong, thanks that helped me understand more. I kind of knew that but I feel it's something more... like something I have to do. I guess a kind of direction?

Philbird,
Sorry if I'm asking a dim question, but how does that set me free?

Although interesting to note you had 33 posts.

I need to understand more about numerology. Both 11 and 33 have played a huge part in my life. By the way I'm a 9 and I've been hearing this riddle in my head over and over for years. Still

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posted June 06, 2004 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Gia,
Here's the deal. It was a question about your question. If I had never seen 11x3=33 I would not know if they were #'s or something else. A lot of my world is visualizing, not necessarly beliveing what I've been taught.
Now, I thought about your question on a level I understand, pictures.
What I see in the visual is 11 turned horizontally is "Still Waters". Unfortunatly, the x I see as "Barbed Wire" or a "Cross Disturbed". The 3's horizontally for me represent Mountians" perhaps purple.

Are you a Virgo by chance? All of these symbols can be found in the sign for Virgo.
Just taking a crack at it.
Have a good day.

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posted June 06, 2004 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry Gia,
I couldn't answer the question for you.
I think your original comment was "Solve this riddle and it will set "You" free. I'm free now that answered it in my own head. (Iwanted to put a smilie face here but I don't know how that works).
P.S. I just purchased a numerology book yesterday, I'm on a quest too!.

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posted June 06, 2004 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird,

My gosh just reading that gave me the willies...sorry, my expression for goose bumps!

You are simply amazing!!

If you were visualizing a place, or a time, where would it be and when? Do you know much else about the Virgo aspect? It's really important that I figure this out.

I'm a saggi girl. 12.18.59 though I do think I have a lot of virgo in me. I really care about details. Does the fact I'm a saggi speak to you in a visual sense?

Oh forgot to say, the picture I had in my head was a crossed path. The 33 I'm not sure of at all.

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posted June 06, 2004 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Gia,
Please don't take my comments as readings. I don't want to misrepresent myself. I do however, have a good of understanding of psychology I'm very intuitive in this area. Which led me here. I am not versed in astrology, numerology, or any areas of mysticism. I strongly believe in mind over matter. Here's what I sense. I sense you are scared and are desperate for answers about whether you should take a spiritual quest, Or if you should move to a more remote part of the country. Nov. 3rd doesn't settle well with me for some reason, maybe political. That keeps coming to mind. I really don't know why.
Some other things.....
Initially I saw the x as two arrows. But I said to myself, too creepy. After your post I checked the signs of the zodiac. I don't know about astrology!. Saggi, huh?

I see you floating over where you live and trying to get a better perspective on life.
Trying to take in the whole picture in order to have a better idea of what connection you have spiritually to the unknown. Psychologically speaking, Are you asking all your questions about a few #'s because you want a very nice, clean - cut reason not to trust your heart about moving on spiritually? In order to prove to yourself You need to stay stuck because it's too risky to take a chance?
Did or have you switched from Rep. to Dem.recently?
I feel a lot of green and a cousin. Military? The time I see is the near future.
CAUTION: I feel you need to make a life goal change somewhere around Nov. 3. I don't like what I sense about your mental health after that time. (or around it)
I have to stop here because my mind is getting confused. Sorry. If you post any responces, I should be more clear headed in about an hour.

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posted June 06, 2004 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Gia,

I'm really sorry for posting that. I had no right. Really, Really sorry.

If you are the x, or two arrows, Sag.
11 horizonaly is still water
and the 3's are mountians,
Maybe there is need for change that will be more peacefull for you.

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posted June 06, 2004 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird,

Don't worry so, I never thought for one moment to take them as readings. I got the willies over the crossed path thingy and the mountains.

We have recently moved. It took me a long time to find the right place. We built our own home and are very happy here indeed.

Spiritual quest? I've been on one since I was born. I've travelled far and wide, met amazing people, and had unbelievable experiences. I also sat in a spiritual development circle for many years. I am not aware of wanting to go off on another quest just yet. Nor am I easily frightened.

I have no connection to the military and no relatives with any such connections. I have only a few relatives anyway and they are all old now.

The reason I wish to solve this riddle is because it's been with me for years. Lately I've been dreaming about it. I feel I ought to try and solve it. Seems to me that it must mean something important to keep cropping up. I'm certainly not desperate, forgive me if I gave you that impression.

I've already picked up on the arrows, they do mean something to me. Nov. 3rd to be honest, I've no idea. I do hope that my mental health will remain good. I too believe in mind over matter. I've seen too much not to.

Please know I do appreciate your efforts on my behalf.

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posted June 06, 2004 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird.

I am a sag - arrows
I am amongst mountains - 3's
I do have still water lakes - 11

By why will it set me free??????

Please don't worry about the posting. I'm truly not. Honest.

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posted June 06, 2004 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
OK,
Humbly, yours.....

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posted June 07, 2004 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Everlong     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, heh. I didn't even think about how it looked visually.

I'm kind of tired, not really in the mood for deep thinking, but I'll read the rest of the responses later since this is really interesting.

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posted June 07, 2004 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Linda Goodman, Sun Signs:


THE NUMBER 3
The Number 3 vibrates to the planet Jupiter. It represents idealism, higher education, foreign travel, and religion. 3 is the number of optimism, movement, expansion---and the Holy Trinity of the body, mind, and spirit.

A person or entity is influenced by the Number 3 if born on the 3rd, 12th, 21st, or 30th day of any month in any year. People or entities born on the 3rd are stamped with the distinctive imprint of the Number 3. So are those born on the 12th, 21st, and 30th day of any month, but these will, in addition, be challenged to unlock the karmic mystery of the Compound number--12, 21, or 30, as the case may be--in their lives. The same is true of the Single and Compound number of the name of the person or entity being analyzed.

The Number 3 attitudes and characteristics will be periodically exhibited by the 3 person or entity, and will interact with that person's or entity's personality in different ways, depending on the individual Sun Sign.

When the Sun Sign is:
SAGITTARIUS: The 3 vibration intensifies the Sun Sign personality traits.

GEMINI: The 3 vibration sometimes opposes the Sun Sign motives, but, with effort, can be used to balance the Sun Sign nature.

ARIES, LEO, AQUARIUS, LIBRA: The 3 vibration harmonizes well with the Sun Sign character, motives, and personality patterns.

PISCES, VIRGO, CAPRICORN, SCOPRIO, TAURUS, CANCER: The 3 vibration is in sharp contrast with the basic Sun Sign instincts. When it surfaces on occasion in the personality, the behavior is so unusual, relative to the person's or entity's normal or natural Sun Sign attitudes, it startles others, and often surprises the 3 person as well.

The Meaning of the 3 vibration:
The following definition of Number 3 applies to both people and entities. 3 people base every actin (even when they are misguided and the action is a negative one) upon the foundation of a great ideal. They aim high for truth, and nothing less than truth with satisfy them, whether they seek the truth of a love affair, a friendship, a career, politics, or religion. They are not easily put off by evasive answers or deception, and they can spot a lie, a distortion, or dishonesty a mile away. Some of them achieve the goal of truth, others are misled into believing their own illusions, but they never stop searching. The 3 vibration is fiercely independent, seeks total freedom of speech and movement, and cannot be tied down. Travel is an absolute necessity, mingling with others and seeing the world, learning everything there is to know about every country and its people, every intellectual concept, every philosophy.

They tend to look at the bright side of everything, and their optimism is contagious. Even Capricorns with 3 as the birth number will shock themselves with these occasional bursts of sheer Pollyanna optimism.

Because of the shining quest for truth, the 3 person is either an agnostic, an atheist, or intensely devoted to a religious principle, i.e.: nuns, ministers, monks, rabbis, and priests. Religion is an important part of the life of a 3 person or entity, whether the religion is fervently, fanatically accepted or bitterly rejected. The attitude is never neutral.

Physical challenge inspires the 3 people or entities; therefore sports play a major role. The 3 vibration is shockingly blunt of speech, candid to a fault, and outraged at duplicity of any kind. There's a genuine love for animals and a strong tendency to defend the underdog human with the same loyalty they show to their dogs, horses, and other pets. There's a marked indifference to family ties, and marriage works only when freedom is total. The 3 vibration is associated with tests of physical strength, gambling, and taking a chance, whether at the casinos or on the floor of the stock market. The 3 person or entity will take a chance or bet on just about anything. Their bubbling optimism is delightfully contagious.

3 people or entities often display an odd blend of the wise philosopher and the happy-go-lucky clown, and a sense of responsibility is sometimes lacking. Some of the goals, dreams, and ambitions are serious; others are silly and frivolous. Pursuing an education matters a great deal to 3 people, and they are crushed when they're denied the halls of higher learning for whatever reason. They make excellent "armchair lawyers" or professional attorneys, since the Planet Jupiter, represented by 3, rules the law.


11
A Lion Muzzled--A Clenched Fist
This is a number of hidden trials and treachery from others. It represents two members of the same or the opposite sex--or two opposed situations. In either case, compatibility of interest is lacking, and interference from a third force must be conquered. The difficulties may also arise from the illusion of separation. It's necessary to unite divided goals to avoid a sense of frustrated incompletion. The third, interfering force can be a person or an idea; and it can take the form of a refusal to see the other side as an obstacle to harmony. The origin of the separating force must be identified, an attempt made to seek compromise. Occasionally, conflicting desires within one's own self are seen as in a reflecting mirror. Two forces or two desires stand apart and must ultimately unite for happiness. Yet, each must remain individual, even after being joined, for each possesses its own worth.

33
This number has no individual meaning of its own, but carries the same vibration of the 24--except that the magic of love, the extent of originality and creativity, and the promise of eventual financial success are deepened and increased. Due to the double 3, people whose name equals 33 are more fortunate in every way when involved in a harmonious partnership of some kind with the opposite sex, which applies to the career as well as to romantic and marital relationships. This is a number of well-deserved karmic reward. 33 people are advised not to abuse the astounding luck which will descend on them at sometime during the life by allowing it to tempt them into laziness, overconfidence, and a feeling of superiority. When a sense of humor and genuine humility accompany the 33 vibration, it's a wonderfully fortunate number.

Thirty three reduces to a six.

THE NUMBER 6
The Number 6 vibrates to the planet Venus. It represents the feminine essence, compassion, and (until Venus gives up her rulership of Taurus when the planet Pan-Horus is discovered) also money. 6 is the number of love and romance.

A person or an entity is influenced by the Number 6 if born on the 6th, 15th, or 24th day of any month, in any year. People or entities born on the 6th are stamped with the distinct imprint of the Number 6. So are those born on the 15th and 24th day of the month, but these will, in addition, be challenged to unlock the karmic mystery of the Compound number--15 or 24--as the case may be--in their lives. The same is true of the Single and Compound number of the name of the person or entity being analyzed.

The Number 6 attitudes and characteristics will be periodically exhibited by the 6 person or entity, and will interact with that person's or entity's personality in different ways, depending on the individual Sun Sign.
When the Sun Sign is:
AQARIUS, TAURUS, LIBRA: The 6 vibration intensifies the Sun Sign personality traits.

SCORPIO, ARIES: The 6 vibration sometimes opposes the Sun Sign motives, but, with effort, can be used to balance the Sun Sign nature.

ANY OTHER SIGN: The 6 vibration will, at times, harmonize with the Sun Sign character and personality patterns, and at other times, contrast sharply with them. At the latter times, the behavior is so unusual, relative to the normal behavior, it startles others, and often surprises the Number 6 person as well.

The Meaning of the 6 Vibration
The following definition of Number 6 applies to both people and entities. 6 people seem to magnetically attract others to them. They're genuinely loved by their friends and associates--and when they become attached themselves, they're devoted to the loved one. These people are born romantics with a strong sentimental streak, no matter how they deny it or try to hide it. The 6 vibration brings a love of art and a deep affinity for music. These people love nice homes and tasteful furnishings, pastel colors, and harmony in their surroundings.

They love to entertain their friends and to make people happy, and they simply cannot abide discord, arguments, unpleasantness, or jealousy--although they can display intense jealousy themselves if they're threatened with the possible loss of someone (or something) they love. The 6 vibration makes friends easily, and they tend to enjoy settling disputes between their friends, business associates, and relatives, at which times they appear to be as peaceful and as docile as lambs--until their stubborn side surfaces; then they don't seem quite so sweet!

Money often comes to them without effort, sometimes through their own talents and abilities, sometimes through inheritance or through wealthy friends and relatives. But they're warned to watch for a tendency toward the extremes of extravagance and stinginess. There's seldom a neutral attitude toward finances. It's either one or the other, taking turns in the nature. The love of beauty of all kinds in every area of life is pronounced. Most 6 people are deeply attached to Nature in some way, and love spending time in the country, near the silent woods and singing streams, which has a tranquilizing effect on their emotions. A fondness for luxury marks the 6 vibration. Ugliness is extremely offensive to them. They admire the tasteful and shrink from loudness and vulgarity. Their manners are, as a general rule, impeccable, and in their associations with others they are usually polite. However, when they feel strongly about anything, they won't hesitate to make their opinions known. They're fond of discussing and debating politics and other matters, and they usually win, because of their logic…and their irresistible smiles.


(thanks again A.C.C.) juniperb

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posted June 07, 2004 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Juni

Thank you so very much for the response. It has educated me tremendously. I appreciate you taking the time to help. You really are an

Philbird you too!

Gotta remember, saggi girls don't take offence easily. I'm the one that normally puts my foot in my mouth. I'm really good that! My hubby says it's amazing how a 5ft 1" 108 pound little thing, can silence a huge hall full of people in two seconds flat.

Did it at a business conference in London. I couldn't bear a moment longer how unjust, and unconscionable the presenter was. She thought it quite acceptable in business to purposefully decieve and undermine the people you employed, just so you could get them to resign voluntarily. She was teaching a room full of senior executives the art of precisely that. Well at first, I just sat there thinking to myself that I really didn't have to participate in any way, perhaps I could just sit very quietly and listen. However, this little voice in my head kept nagging at me until I could bear it no more. I let them have it big time. All these BP execs. And not one of them said anything. Can you imagine that? I was incredulous, thought someone would ask me to leave at least. Complete and utter silence. All through lunch I locked my self in the ladies loo absolutely mortified at what energy had possessed me to go on stage and say what I did.

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posted June 09, 2004 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Gia,
GREAT FOR YOU!!!
I'm sure you weren't the only one in the room chomping at the bit to say something. BUT YOU DID IT!! I know quite a few of those execs. will ponder your point and sleep poorly until they change jobs.

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posted June 09, 2004 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Gia...one more thought.

11x3. Hold it up to a mirror (like the way you look at yourself) and you see something that looks very much like Exll. At what do you either excel or wish to excel? Perhaps your path is reflected in your mirror somehow.

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posted June 09, 2004 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Fishkitten

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posted June 09, 2004 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Fishkitten.

That's just amazing!
Do you normally look at things in a mirror way? I often read things backwards, now I'll have to read them in reflection as well. Yes, that does tell me something about myself, though I'm not sure how it sets me free....

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I don't really normally look at things in a mirror way, for some reason it just struck me to do so when I saw your first post in this thread. Perhaps I should consider that aspect more often. But it does make sense in a way. If you look in the mirror...really see your most heartfelt core and your own special capabilities...you will naturaly be set free. Cool message you left for yourself, Gia, written on the steamy mirror of life.

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posted June 12, 2004 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for responding. I appreciate it.
I'm touched by the effort.
My deepest gratitude.

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posted June 12, 2004 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Good morning Gia,
I'm reading Star Signs and have learned the do's and dont's of 11 and 22.
But looking back on your question, I was reminded of the three legged stool story.
1) father
2) mother
3) child
father plus mother= child Two threes might mean two children.
Are you going to have 2 children? Or two of something you have to care for?.

Oh by the way, I have mentioned before I had purchased a book called "The Complete Idiot's Guide To Numerology". Well I must have been a complete idiot because the book does'nt use the Chaldean-Hebrew Kabala Alphabet Linda uses.

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posted June 12, 2004 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird,

Two children?

Not b***** likely I'm 45 years old!
I may be a little touched, but I ain't that touched you know!!

Anyway, it would have to be an immaculate conception - hubby has had the snip.
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Two to care for huh?

I'll have a think about it and let you know.

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