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posted November 29, 2003 03:57 AM         

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Do any of you guys out there ever feel like your spirituality is repressed in High School, or do you feel that high school is Spiritual?

I personally feel that my peers do not relate to any such thing as Spirituality. They have no clue, and some of them say they might, but... I don't consider Institutionalized Spirituality, a true form of emotion that runs our lives, you know that one force. (Something I like to call the Uni-Consciousness, Or Unified, or Universal, whatever.) My peers at 16 or 17 have not even begun to develop such an abstract thought. I wonder if most human beings are even capable of such thought of the beyond. Some are like sheep. the human race.... Needs to wake up from its sleep.
In my opinion It needs to wake up from Money, Materialism, labels, sickness, oh and did i mention money?

Love to all
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posted November 29, 2003 10:17 PM         

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posted December 02, 2003 12:38 AM         

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posted December 02, 2003 05:03 PM         

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Hey, where ya been!
I do agree with what you've said, although very few of my close friends do tend to think such abstract thoughts.

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posted December 05, 2003 12:38 AM         

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I don't think most teens think about spiritualty much, if at all... meaning that we're anomalous. Spirituality usually comes later in life, when people truly realize that they will die. Then the matter becomes rather urgent.

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posted December 05, 2003 09:12 PM         

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once in english, we had to discuss free will, weather we had it or not.
it was the first time in my life that i said exactly what i thought about things that were very important to me...i saw another side of my friends, they said that i had opinions which they didnt think they were capable of thinking of, i didnt know weather i should have been happy or sad.

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posted December 06, 2003 12:40 PM         

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posted December 06, 2003 04:21 PM         

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I'm sorry i have been questioning my Beliefs a lot lately so i have kinda been off here. But I am back in the game...

School was really one of the key factors in my life that made me question. So many beliefs. I have chose a synergy of a lot of them. Buddhism (Mind your Karma), Hinduism(I carry a Qan yin in my pocket all the time)(Goddess of kindness, and loving compassion), Christianity ( i Combined the devil and God in to one and called it the Uni-Conscious) among other things, and as ALWAYS The angels that are constantly looking over my shoulder and behind me.

As for dieing... I have come to the conclusion that death is the conclusion, the conclusion of our lives. Now pre-mature death IS something to be afraid of, but Death it self is not. When we reach that point in our lives, it is beautiful, To know the truth.

(sigh)

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posted December 07, 2003 10:09 PM         

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Many of my friends are capable of fairly deep thoughts but they don't usually express them because it would be considered uncool. I rarely express my beliefs (such as they are) either. Spirituality is a very personal thing. One shouldn't expect people to talk about it a lot.

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posted December 09, 2003 12:15 PM         

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You have a point there, QoS.

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posted December 15, 2003 05:45 PM         

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I've been rather burnt out on high school a lot lately... I'm tring to get over it though. I have to respect my peers even though that is sometimes hard when they are makin fun of your haeing diverse thought or thought at all. I find it extreamly hard to find a balance in high school. But I am trying, omnn;ly when i can suround my self with people who think similarly to how I think then I can feel comfortable... I love to be around people who are spiritual. it makes me feel so much more spiritual.

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posted January 09, 2004 02:50 PM         

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School is an indoctrination into societal conditioning.

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posted January 10, 2004 01:20 AM         

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My peers all seem rather materialistic. They find my beliefs, to deep for them to reach inside themselves

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posted August 03, 2004 08:55 PM         

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Deep, I was just wondering how things were going for you. An update on your views ?

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posted August 03, 2004 11:43 PM         

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Why thank you for showing interest in me juniperb. It is very nice to be acknowledged! Well I have come to great growth point in my life. I am starting to understand and beginning to work for what I want. As far as high school goes... I dislike learning out of a book when I could be learning right from the source. You know, instead of reading about a camera... actually using one. That is why I do not belong in the current school system. Linda once said that the modern school system had a thing or two to learn from the Wise Pisces. Not that I'm wise, I learned that... but something in me is.

The Modern school system is based on an old school philosophy of teach to the middle. You take everybody weather they be this or that and make sure they turn out the same. It was designed create a “manageable” labor force. It is Prussian in origin. The Pre-German Militaristic state of Prussia. The whole reason why Hitler thought that he would make it out of WWII is because (and he created propaganda films on this too.) Before when Prussia had started a large war, all of the sudden, they were saved, every country that had become involved, had other things to take care off and France, England, Italy and all withdrew. I shouldn’t add the connotation of fascism and genocide in this post, but I used to call the school system and government and media and people who were “brain-washed” Fascists. Back when I was a sophomore. Now I’m a senior and I try to pick more Articulated words for what I view as corruption in hidden and covert forms. Oh, “Brain-Washed”, that is subjective. But I feel when you can get millions of people to like “artists” like Brittany Speres… I sometimes wonder, you know? And not only BS but many many other fades. Capitalism, The constant pull on people and their rescores around the world, This form of social structure can only go one for so long.

Our Ideas of society need to evolve. Including the Concept of teaching. One of the reasons why I like Linda Land. I find a higher concentration of Spiritually, Mentally, and Philosophically Evolved People
Juniperb, you seem to be one of those people.

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posted August 06, 2004 07:39 AM         

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Randall, it sounds like you have clear direction.
The teaching systems are outdated and need restructured. Perhaps you can be a mover and shaker in doing so when you have your education behind you
Do remember as you walk your path to enjoy lifes little gifts along the way!.
Thank you for sharing your insights!.

juniperb

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posted April 05, 2005 01:41 AM         

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posted April 05, 2005 03:34 AM         

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I was just thinking something similar to this!

Most of my highschool friends seldom displayed much thought beyond materialism.
I will make sure my children are aware of the spiritual from very early childhood!
Their imaginations lead them to believe in so many things- why not the Truth also?

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posted April 06, 2005 10:38 PM         

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I've been thinking a lot on this subject. I go to highschool, (a lowly freshie)and I've been looking around school a lot, been listening to what my friends talk about, and have started paying attention to what the parents and the school teach us. Everything we have ever been taught (or the majority of us) are materialistic things. I mean, why do we even go to school in the first place? To get a good education, so we can get a good job, so we can earn lots of money. That's the main goal, really. That's what the parents want their children to learn, and that's what schools, and governments will give us. And that is what all of us are taught, ever since little, to gain as much as we can, to have as many things as money can possibly buy. I mean, wouldn't you just prefer to talk about cute clothes and new Ferrari cars then to numerology and karma?
And well, if you really think about it, if the school started teaching us spirituality, there will be parents who will object. (Christ, Harry Potter was banned from our school library because it talked of wizards!) Second, some of the more...logical, narrow-minded students will protest as well, and will probably refuse to see it.
And well, last year, I was pretty materialistic. Because that was what I was taught, in school, on tv, by my parents. And I didn't know that such things as spiritualism existed. I never gave it that much thought. So perhaps, some of the reasons why some kids are so materialistic is because they don't know anything else but gaining materials.

Which leads to another question. why are WE concerned about spiritualism. Is there some tweak in our astrology? Or maybe we all vibrate to some type of vibration that only we vibrates too? I mean, why are we not like the others anymore?

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posted April 07, 2005 04:25 AM         

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I Love your questions and thoughts Christina- you're an amazing Chick!

You pretty much hit the nail on the head describing what it's like.
I didn't learn of Spirituality until I left highschool, it's great that you're aware of it now.
I am now opposite of what I was like in school, seriously, I was very needy and dependant on material things to gain popularity, if I only knew the magic's and wonders of our world then!
My idea of school is a great, distant dream, but it's real, and it exists somewhere, just not here and now.

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Well, I don't know. I know a lot of people at my school that are very intelligent and enlightened. We have a lot of terrific teachers as well, for a public school in South Florida. Yeah, most of the kids you know in school are going to be materialistic and caught up in their own individual worlds- they were brought up to be that way- but I don't know, I mean, they'll learn, one day, you just have to learn to ignore it. Maybe it's just because I don't really know anyone at my school that's overtly-materialistic. We're just being conditioned, by everything, and everywhere, and school already brings our energy to think down, so it's difficult.

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I went through a period for about a year and a half where i felt totally and completely repressed by everyone around me. At school I was constantly fed up by people who I wrongly mistaked as "idiots" I was sick of my friends and their shallowness, I was sick of my fellow peers and their close mindedness, and I was sick of trying to stifle who I truly was inside. I was scared if I showed myself to others, they wouldn't like me so I tried as hard as I could to fit the "mold" but inside i was dying. I hated myself, I didnt know what brought on this change, one day I was normal like all my friends, the next I was questioning everything we did or said to other people. Slowly, I started weeding the bad personalities out of my social circle. I became more sure of myself and my beliefs every day. One day, I went to a metaphysical fair with my mom and she persuaded me to get a tarot reading that changed me from them on. I started to realize my self-worth was higher than i thought it was, i'm so much happier today than I was 4 months ago and im thankful for my two best friends, this forum, and God.

Yeah I pretty much babbled, but hey felt good. Btw, Hello everyone!!!!!!! I've been reading this forum for awhile but just recently decided to join.

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posted June 02, 2005 10:38 AM         

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posted June 02, 2005 12:46 PM         

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DeepIYM I like the bit of history you gave about the school system! That's neat (yet scary?)! I actually had a young college chemistry professor message me the other day, and he absentmindedly told me how great it was teaching to the middle students...how insulting to the smart ones! Now I understand why I felt ignored all throughout high school and a 2 year college - I consistently got high grades so I was invisible to these teachers. They didn't want to teach me because I wouldn't become a minion.

Also...the quietest kids in high school...I found out were the ones who turned out to be the most interesting people.

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posted June 03, 2005 11:26 AM         

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Indeed!

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