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doommlord
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posted September 07, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just a thought that came to my mind after seeing a show about 25-35 year olds that still stay with their parents....most of them by choice

tell me what you think about leaving home...what are your plans? do you wish to stay or leave? experiences from those who already left will be appreciated also

discuss

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Chiemi
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posted September 07, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to want to stay during college but now I want to be on my own asap.

My college has dorm rooms so I'll be there during college and off campus apartments in probably my junior/senior year. After that just living in apartments but for the most part I'm done with living with my mom unless I actually have to.

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PixieJane
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posted September 07, 2012 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Until recently it was normal for people to remain with their parents and inherit the estate, passing it on generation to generation. While I do appreciate some aspects of the new individualism I also think society has suffered with the idea that families aren't supposed to stick together anymore.

But as for me I left for that last time when I was 16 and only made 2 significant visits back home since. However it's possible that one day I'll take up Granny's offer and move in with her (and inheriting her house after she passes away). It's not my first plan, but it's an option I'm willing to consider.

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doommlord
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posted September 08, 2012 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pixie jane

why do you think that living alone hurts the society?

personally i dont enjoy living with my parents and would gladly leave home and live by myself....but i still have a long road to go...

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PixieJane
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posted September 08, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many people have left home so young that the old social networks and foundations are gone which means whenever there's a natural disaster or economic crunch or any other inevitable thing that people generally have to rely on the government or a patron (such as a corporation or cult) to take care of them. In addition to the vulnerability this creates in all too many this gives the government and corporations way too much power because people no longer depend on each other (as they're constantly moving to whatever jobs are available, not happy, alone, and likely to move again) but instead depend on those who have only selfish agendas at heart and consider the individuals now in their power to be interchangeable units rather than unique individuals (which in turn encourage them to become another assimilated drone). Furthermore, such cut off individuals are much more vulnerable to crime (both more likely to be chosen as a victim and more likely to suffer as one without family support), medical mistakes and other stuff.

I'm glad people don't require a family or clan to function in society, but I do wish the powers that be hadn't successfully convinced society that people should tossed out of the nest the moment they're trained for a life as a wage slave or soldier because it just gives the wrong people too much power at the expense of the individuals. If John has to leave home and start his own life after being trained then he becomes totally dependent on his corporation which replaces his family at the expense of his individuality (because unlike his family the corporation doesn't care about John as a person, only as a unit they can exploit), and that dehumanizes John and reduces him to a drone who has to do as he's told or face homelessness and other difficulties when in the past people could just go home (not to sit on the couch and play video games, mind you, but they could still find a place). And the more people there are who are like John the more easily corporations (and governments, cults, etc) can get away with that, and thus the worse they'll get (if there were only a few people like John then governments would have less reason to assert more control, cults would have less potential recruits, and corporations would be a lot more competitive about attracting employees when there's not so many who have become disposable to them for them to choose from).

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Cardinal Arbiter
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posted February 06, 2013 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinal Arbiter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I concur, PixieJane. Very well said!

Often though, even families that stick together will be quite disharmonious within. So good luck finding a family that is both understanding of your individual inclinations and functional as a whole. Mine was very understanding of my individual inclinations but not functional as a whole. Every female in my family seems to be involved with irresponsible delusional men who are not understanding or ultimately not "with it". Of course these females themselves are not great judges of characters so you could just say it's their fault, but the point is my family is very disjointed since every couple is constantly struggling to string it together in their own way 'for the kids'. Everyone is very accepting of eachother and there's no disownment. But we are economically null. Nothing ever ever ever get's organized.

The classic story of individualism is that where a child's family is unforgivingly focused on one concept that the child does not fit in with, and the family does not understand. Opposite, my family was too smothering and could not offer me any path to success, however uniform.

I realized I could not flourish in that environment, so I too left when I was 16, feeling the potential of the unknown outweighed the near certainty of failure would I have stayed.

Habits manifested in that community have stayed with me though, and it has taken me a long time to manage to even survive in this rough economy as an individual, and I'm certainly not progressing at the moment.

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MillyX
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posted February 06, 2013 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm 19 and I still live with my mom. I just think that right now there are more benefits with living with mom than living on my own. I'm a student right now, I don't see a need for me to live on my own, college is just 30 minutes away by subway. Also I don't need to pay the rent, electricity & etc. food is free too, my momma's a good cook. I'm still a kid & I'll enjoy it, I'm in no rush to grow up. I plan on leaving home when I'll find a serious boyfriend. I'll probably rent an apartment downtown with him.

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Randall
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posted February 07, 2013 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I left home early. Stay there as long as you can.

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