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REVOLUTION21
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posted September 05, 2013 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for REVOLUTION21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you suppose many people don't investigate their belief system? Can we formulate a system of thought and knowledge that is applicable to all of humanity? Do you agree or disagree with the following, "The unexamined life is not worth living."??? But, is it necessary to understand why we believe something?

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PixieJane
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posted September 06, 2013 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many people don't investigate their belief system because it's hard work when the mind is a muscle that sees very little exercise. Even school has taught many to hate thinking as school is often boring (if not horrid) and often don't realize that school prevents more learning than it facilitates, and it also keeps the thinking mind flabby by typically discouraging original thought while also teaching the answers are already there and one only needs to find them in the assigned reading and memorize them. When one gets answers handed to them then they almost never learn to think for themselves, and they come to associate any and all mental activity with the dull (or worse) monotony of school (because they don't think about it), and some even choose to rebel against it by becoming willfully ignorant. Even those who embrace the academic life will find themselves earning the higher grades by being a mental parrot than a genuine thinker (and original thought can be discouraged, even punished, in school by the faculty as much as by peers).

On top of that the people who question fundamentals usually make others uncomfortable (or at least bore them) so it can be social suicide that can even lead to literal suicide (and people used to be tortured and executed for it, still are in some parts of the world, and even in America it can come off as "unpatriotic" or "not having faith" which leads to violence against the questioner or at least a lot of guilt for daring to think for one's self). An honest investigation into one's beliefs seems much more likely to generate more questions than answers and that makes life more complicated, too, and therefore not rewarding to most people.

No system of thought and knowledge that is applicable to all of humanity can be formulated, at least not until our species learns how to eradicate individuality (or at least severely repress it by direct neurological tampering). Not unless you count math.

I do not agree that the examined life is not worth living for people in general, plenty of people do just fine without it while plenty who examine it are miserable and lead a terrible existence. That's generally speaking, however, there are a few people who are driven to do so and for them they can't stop themselves from examining life and systems of thought anymore than they can stop eating. And a few of those people (Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens as one example) manage to make their lives a lot better from thinking things through more and questioning everything around them while there are plenty of sad people out there who suffer for their self-hating beliefs (like gays raised to believe God hates & curses gays) because of their inability to question them.

And for most people it's not necessary for survival and happiness to understand why we believe something, that is one doesn't have to THINK before they "think," and they do just fine in life (or at least no worse than those who do a lot of introspective thinking and metacognition). And on top of that actually examining one's belief has been a fast track for thousands of years to being forced to drink hemlock or burned at the stake (while convincing the victim and everyone else that the "gods were angry") so our species isn't really bred to think save in the most superficial ways, and it can be argued that it was necessary to survival and happiness NOT to examine one's life and beliefs too hard.

However, that said, I have to throw in one of my favorite sayings:

"Disobedience, in the eyes of any one who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion." --Oscar Wilde

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posted September 06, 2013 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie nailed it on the head with her reply.

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PixieJane
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posted September 07, 2013 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might enjoy the vid here:
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Dark_Sun9
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posted September 07, 2013 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
School basically teaches you not to. Pluto + Jupiter are the planetary bodies that will guide you into the morals and ethics of 'Belief' , People that have no time for beliefs, i have no time for.

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Randall
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posted September 08, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People don't like challenges to their world schemas.

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PixieJane
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posted September 25, 2013 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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doommlord
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posted September 25, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think most people can deal with thinking about all that from an objectvice stance, either becuse of lack of openess or becuse sometimes the results from such thinking can be very discouraging.

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Randall
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posted September 26, 2013 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:

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Randall
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posted September 27, 2013 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Calvin rationalizes well.

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PixieJane
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posted September 28, 2013 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I liked a shirt (and other places I've seen it) that said something like this:

Power corrupts
Knowledge is power
Study hard
Be evil

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Randall
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posted September 29, 2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted September 30, 2013 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still trying to take over the world.

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Randall
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posted October 01, 2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I study very hard!

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