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Miss Jane
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posted July 19, 2002 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Jane     Edit/Delete Message
This is the first dream I have been able to remember for more than 10 minutes so I thought it was worth an interpretation. You come highly recommended, Ra. Can you please help me? Thank you.

My Dream...
>
> I was in a one story house which had at least 3 rooms. There were 2
> connecting medium size rooms and a hallway off of one leading to a third
> room. Their was a span of windows across both rooms.
>
> I am sitting on a couch (it's back against the window) facing away from
> the window. The sun is shining; it is not dark. On the couch is my father
> and older sister. We are watching 2 potted plants on a stool in front of
> us. One is in front of the other. All of a sudden the potted plant behind
> the first one starts rocking and pushing the 1st one. I verbally say to
> my sister (because I thought it represented her): "you sure are being
> pushy". The plant starts rocking even more violently and all of a sudden
> out from under the 2nd potted plant comes a snake (like a garden snake).
> I realize that it was the snake causing the rocking. I get really alarmed
> and move off the coach into the other connecting room into the hallway. I
> am clearly fearful. I watch the snake move down the stool and into the
> room where I am standing. I am really scared. The snake takes no notice
> of me and moves past me to the only open window in my dream. It is the
> farthest window from the coach. As soon as the snake goes out the window
> I start moving towards the window. When begin to shut the window I can
> sense the snake KNOWS what I'm about the do. It turns but knows it is
> too late to get back in the room.
>
> I slam the window shut and then the snake rears up in the shape of a
> Cobra. It silently screams. I can still see the hideous face and it's
> anger. (Which is pretty remarkable because I RARELY remember my dreams.
> When I do it's for several minutes. I had this dream 2 months ago and it
> has stayed imprinted in my memory.) I was left with the impression I
> "outsmarted" the snake because it was not expecting me there.
>
> Anyway, I get alarmed and look to see if there are any other open windows
> or ways the snake can get back in. I'm relieved to see there aren't. I go
> back into the original room with the coach. I start talking to my father
> and I see that the wall next to the sofa now has a hanging cloth door.
> When I move the cloth I see it opens into a small dark room. When I move
> inside to see if all 4 sides are secure, I wake up but wondering if the
> angry snake could get in this way.

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Karma27
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posted July 20, 2002 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma27     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Miss Jane. I think you should either think about or relate to the rest of us your relationship with both your sister and father. Also in Psychology snakes are phallic symbols, representing men and sexuality. Maybe there is some connection to a man in your life? Are you running from someone or afraid of the sexual aspect of life? Think about it! Much LOVE!

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Randall
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posted July 20, 2002 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to the site, Jane!

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Spiritua
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posted July 20, 2002 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to Lindaland, Jane!

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Miss Jane
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posted July 20, 2002 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Jane     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Karma27,

Thank you for your comments, Karma27. I am close to my father but not close to the sister in my dream. I did think it was odd she was it.

Regarding LOVE, there is one fellow I am deeply attraced to and feel a very strong connection with but he is currently involved with someone else.

MJ

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Ra
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posted July 20, 2002 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome, Miss Jane.

As quickly as I can!

PS - your name, or perhaps your energy, has a peculiar ... feeling. Just a stray thought!

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Ra
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posted July 20, 2002 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
The house could represent your psyche, or perhaps a life situation.

Although it is daylight(awareness), you are facing away from the window (consciousness). I think this indicates a situation that you are, for the most part, aware of, but that there is some aspect of which you are not. It seems that your father and sister represent themselves, but they could also be representative of some quality of the relationship you have with them, a quality/s that in some way is related to the situation, but perhaps being enacted by someone else. For instance, your father could represent something like security, protection, foundation, etc. - and your sister something like kinship or rivalry, or perhaps distance - in your case. Is there someone other than your father and sister that may have these attributes?

If the potted plant in back represents your sister, then is the one in front you or your father? I think it is you. And the second plant either is your sister or someone who has characteristics similar to her. The symbolism of the potted plants conveys a meaning of growth, potential.

So this is a situation invovling you and another that is in the process of development, and the other (either sister or another) is putting some sort of pressure upon you. At first, you see the surface level of it - the person (probably female) seems to be rocking the boat, upsetting the balance. But then you realize that the cause of the disruption is actually due to another force (snake), one being applied to the other person.

I am running short on time so I will have to get back to this later, so before I go any further, I would like to ask a few questions. I have thus far been looking at the dream from the context of an external situation, but it could also very well be an internal situation, in which case the others in the dream could represent aspects of self. It would be advantageous to ascertain the inner or outer source of the dream before I deal with the snake symbology.

Who do you think your father and sister represent?
Do you think this dream is reflecting an internal or external situation?
How do you feel about snakes? Are you afraid of them in waking life? Were you raised Christian?

I will get back as soon as I can!

Thank you for sharing your dream.


Walk in Peace

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Miss Jane
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posted July 20, 2002 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Jane     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Ra, for your comments.

In all honesty, I have never been able to make sense of my dreams (thus probably why I don't remember them...I discard them.) They absolute made no sense to me. However, this one I did remember and it did make sense which made me suspicious (i.e. doubt) I may not have it correct.

My interpretation appears very self serving. I have been strongly drawn to a man who is dating someone else. The man and I were both drawn to each other but for a variety of very good reasons it was not the time for us to connect on a personal level - just a professional level. His current girlfriend met him about the same time I did and has always been uncomfortable when I'm around. She has done some pretty unusual things towards me. (Let's just say I've learned alot from her.) Anyhow, I assumed she was the snake pushing the pot (man) and when she slithered away (briefly-not intending to leave for good) I stepped in and this outraged her. Again, this sounds awful self serving but it rang true to me somehow. So in summary,I would say that I thought it represented an external situation.

My father and I have always been close. He is the most kind and generous man. I respect his kindness. I am not close to my sister. We have a different value system so it has been tough to become very close. No animosity on either part just leading different lives. I really couldn't figure out their part in the dream other than I thought it was wierd my sister was in it since we have very little substantial contact and my other sister is my best friend.

Snakes semi-alarm me but nothing like MICE! Let's say I have a healthy respect for snakes.

I was raised Christian. I respect and embrace all white light religions. It is darkness I revoke.

I hope this helps. Thank you again for fitting me on your list.

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Ra
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posted July 20, 2002 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Miss Jane - I have no list. It just so happens, though, that I have much more time for dreams during the week than on the weekends. But I do try to pop in whenever I can!

Your interpretation is probably very close to the truth, and helps me a great deal. I will look at it from that perspective and see what presents itself. Dreams are supposed to be self-serving! That is their nature! It is where your unconscious can speak with your subconscious, and thus one step closer to consciousness. All very personal and self-serving. And very helpful at times.

Again, I will get back!

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Hopeful
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posted July 22, 2002 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome Miss Jane!

You are in good hands here.

Hopeful

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Ra
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posted July 23, 2002 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Miss Jane, I am terribly sorry for the delay, but sometimes waking life calls!

I may get some time tomorrow!

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Miss Jane
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posted July 23, 2002 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Jane     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ra,

Thank you for the update. Please take your time. I am in no rush. I just appreciate you sharing your gift with us.

MJ

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Ra
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posted July 30, 2002 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Miss Jane!

This is what I have so far ...

The house represents the situation and the energies that are at work within it. This is a situation of which you are aware (sun shining). The forces/energies at work are reresented by your sister, father, and the snake. From what you have stated, I think your sister represents the "other woman" and your father represents an energy you may need - kindness, generosity (aka forgiveness), wisdom. He could also represent the man you are interested in (are there any similarities?).

Although you are aware of this situation, there is some aspect of it which you have not recognized (back to window). The two potted plants represent two individuals - the first is you and the second is "the other woman." The snake represents the motivating force of the woman.

This energy is threatening - from your perspective - and you say that you are "clearly fearful." I suspect that this fear is a disguise for another emotion - dislike or anger. I would say that you do not necessarily dislike the other woman (plant) but rather the energy that she has directed towards you (snake). But really, can you blame her? No doubt she perceives you as a threat, just as you perceive the snake as a threat. Are you a threat? It is a matter of perception.

The snake (the threat) "takes no notice" of you and moves past you. It seems the "threat" wants only to move out of your awareness (open window) and perhaps away from the situation entirely (window farthest from couch), at least where you are concerned.

Shutting the window says something about shutting your awareness. It seems to be a good opportunity to rid yourself of the threat, but at the same time you rid yourself of some aspect of your awareness concerning the situation. Do you think the snake would have continued moving away had you not closed the window? It seems that your actions, and indeed your thoughts (the snake "KNOWS"), provoke the snake to anger. I feel that this "angry snake" is symbolic of a fearful "other woman," fearful of being "shut out" by your actions. The cobra-like position is not only a position of attack, it is also a defensive reaction. It seems you have "outsmarted" the snake, and you feel secure because all of the windows are shut. But are you really secure?

Back at the "seat" of the situation (couch) you talk to your father who symbolizes security itself and perhaps indicates a need for his type of energy in this situation. And, as I mentioned, he could also symbolize the man of your interest and a symbolic exchange with him. Whatever the case, it is at this point that you notice the snmall, dark room. This room symbolizes your sub/unconscious. It is here that the snake is now a threat. By closing your awareness (shutting window) you have inadvertently forced the energy of the "snake" ("the other woman") into your unconscious. I am not sure that this is a good thing. Anything which is pushed into the unconscious WILL manifest again - in some way, shape or form.

I think this dream is telling you to look more closely at how you are dealing with the situation - and warning you to not act too impulsively or without thought. In the long run it could be that you have outsmarted yourself!

There could be more symbolism anent the snake, especially concerning transmutation and healing. And there are other possible translations as well. What seems to fit? What does not? I know this is not exactly what you were expecting to hear, but it is how this particular perspective struck me.

What do you think?

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Miss Jane
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posted July 30, 2002 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Jane     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ra,

Thank you for your interpretation. I'm going to have to give this some thought - remember this is all new to me.

You make some interesting observations. My father and the man do have similar characteristics. Further, my sense is that the snake would have continued moving away had I not closed the window. Hmmmm

Actually, I did not present this dream to you with any expected interpretation, so do not worry I may be disappointed.

I will get back to you with my thoughts.

Thanks again. MJ

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Randall
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posted July 30, 2002 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, AWESOME, as usual! But you scare me with those long Posts. Don't want you to lose one again.

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Hopeful
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posted July 31, 2002 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - I've lost a couple of long posts myself. I started copying lost posts before sending itthem, so then I can just paste it into a new one if it is lost.

Miss Jane - This is an interesting dream!

Hopeful

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