posted June 19, 2002 07:13 AM         

Can u pl. have a look at the thread " A short but strange dream". I posted a message there.

posted June 21, 2002 02:50 AM         

Thanks,

posted June 21, 2002 10:34 AM         

Thanks Seeker.

But you know, it is what YOUR inner self says that matters! And it is I who is offering "opinions!"

Are you sure you want ME to "guide" you? I have been known to get lost on occassion (ask my wife!).

Thank you Seeker, I owe you much.

posted June 22, 2002 09:23 AM         

It's easy to get lost in Atlanta, by the way. Been there, done that!

posted June 22, 2002 09:39 AM         

You are already guiding me. Haven't u realized it-you have unravelled so many of my dreams. You also helped me to open the door in one of my dreams, remember.
Guidance can come in several ways, so you are already doing it, what I have done now, is to allow you entry into my expanding energy.
You will now have messages for me, you will see that.
Thanks Ra, you owe me nothing, I owe thanks to you. If you feel that you owe what you do due to mistakes in past lives(you keep harping on misleading us, and I keep laughing), then I here and now forgive you for all that unconditionally.

posted June 25, 2002 01:52 PM         

Seeker, if you have the time, I was wondering if you could give me your opinion of Hopeful's last dream. You said you have a dream book? Again, if you have time, I would be curious as to how you would put together the various symbols that are presented, after having looked up the meanings in your book, and then using your intuition. Do you have the time?

posted June 26, 2002 09:30 AM         

I have a very basic book, but dont use it. The dreams that I tried to analyse here unravelled itself to me.. Yivy's dreams, especially kick something in me.
Sure, I will look it up, but I am no expert. I will try helping if my intution engine starts. I will definitely try to help, if I dont answer pl. take it that the engine dint start...

posted June 27, 2002 02:12 AM         

Help me out with this dream pl.

My Dad and I were standing at the outer door of the porch of our house. It was very dark outside and two people rang the bell, my father opened the door without checking. The moment he did it, I told him " Dad, you should not have opened the door without checking", for I could see two female forms approaching..they were extremely evil. I could sense it, they were swaying and coming towards us, with their hair open, they too were in the dark, so their forms were also dark.
I moved towards the inner door, as I knew that I would be attacked if I stood near the door-I moved towards the inner door, but dint move away, as I wanted to help my father in case of attack by the evil forms. My father, I sensed was also scared but he stood by the door as he had opened it. I normally brace situations front on but was surprised that I had moved away and let my father be at the door.
Anyways, as the forms moved nearer, there was bright sunlight and the two evil female forms changed into two bejewelled dancing eunuchs (wearing red clothes). Their hair was now in a bun. They dint harm us, but wanted some info. I then moved forward and talked to them, took them to our tiny front lawn and seated them on tables. There was a jug of water on the table. They wanted two pieces of information, which I gave them in some detail. I remember not being comfortable with them and wanted to get away from them, but stuck on , because I felt that I could not discriminate against them because of their peculiar gender.
They then left.
I feel the meaning is attached to the situation I am presently battling, and feel that there is a message for me.
Can you unravel it pl.

Thanks in advance,

posted June 28, 2002 03:12 PM         

Is your father a part of the waking situation, or do you think he symbolizes an energy that you may need in order to handle it?

Do you think the "evil females" represent a person or other energy invloved in the situation? Or do they represent an aspect of self? The symbology suggests that they are internal energies in the unconscious that are becoming conscious, but I am uncertain.

I will try to get things to make sense as soon as I can!

posted June 29, 2002 05:59 AM         

Thanks,

posted July 01, 2002 01:46 PM         

But this is a good thing, as it gets me into the basics. I have not yet completed my thoughts on this dream, but I want to at least write what I do have, and perhaps you can clarify (to whatever extent you can) or give direction to the interpretation.

Your dad is either himself or the energy you associate with him that is needed in, or has influenced, this situation. You have said that he represents security/inner belief/part of self and this fits well. It it suggested, then, that you will need strength/courage to face these "evil females." Or it could be that your father is the conduit through which this energy is manifesting. Or a combination. Or neither.

These "evil females" are a dual energy appearing from the unconscious or from unawareness (dark). I would normally interpret these two as a shadow aspect of self - a part of self that is unexpressed or suppressed and which reflects some "darker" desire or some "darker" action you have taken. But you are certain this is an external influence. So perhaps they are a reflection of some darker side of someone else. Whichever, it is a decidedly feminine energy - negatively feminine - sultry, devouring, perhaps tempting, etc. What does this mean to you?

In this context, perhaps you - or your father - have been taken by surprise by this "energy" (open door without checking), and have inadvertently "opened the door" to it. I will tell you, this does not click with me.

As this "dark energy" draws near, you suddenly gain some understanding as to it's true nature (bright sunlight) and the dark energy is transmuted into something quite different. The female energy remains, but has changed into a form that is not destucive or threatening.

Dancing can suggest balance, and the eunuchs themselves could also indicate balance, while their jewels may indicate a spiritual energy or knowledge. Their hair now in buns suggests an energy that is more controlled/focussed. And their red clothing suggests transformation, life energy, passion, or perhaps even something negative - like anger, hate, or some other strong emotion which is perhaps being balanced, or is in need of balance.

Besides some other illegible scribbles, that is about all I have right now.

Do you think the jug of water symbolizes you? Emotions? Life? Purity? Something else? What is your feeling?

More tomorrow!

posted July 01, 2002 01:53 PM         

To dream is a theme it would seem!

When I get a chance, I will tell you a bit.

posted July 02, 2002 01:42 AM         

You asked me "Seeker, what is it about your dreams, in general, that just does not click for me? I mean, whenever I look at your dreams, I get a continuum of possible explanations, and trying to explain any one of them seems to throw me for a loop! Very peculiar" .I have no clue.
My father, is not the conduit through which the energies have expressed, rather he has been drawn into all this, becuase of me.
The evil forms are external forces, negative energy, which I am battling out now. So it is pretty possible that the battling,has weakened them ??? Maybe the anger is due to that.
The transformation of their selves into eunuchs, on touching bright light, could mean two things:
1) Deceit- to show what one is not, to throw off opposing forces, which are battling them-so that the guard can be thrown off. Remember, I enter into a conversation with them and give them two pieces of info even though i am not comfortable.
2) Neutralisation-of forces. Their gender gets neutralised, could this mean-the neutralisation of forces, with the dawning of bright light-the positive force.
Maybe it is a combination of both of the above-any ideas??

posted July 02, 2002 06:03 AM         

Okay..found that the earlier post, hadn't come up yet, so am adding to it.
The water in the jug definitely represents my emotions. I would also like to mention that the table and chairs, had wood that was not-finished. There was no polish or anything of that sort..it was more like wood that had just be cut and made into chairs and tables. The colour dont remember..seems like light grey. We dont have any furniture of that kind, and definitely not on the front lawn..which incidentally does not have any furniture at all.

Thanks,

posted July 02, 2002 01:41 PM         

But this is a good thing.

You say your father is being pulled into this situation. Has he "opened" any "doors" yet? If not, this dream could be somewhat predictive, or perhaps meant as guidance. Opening the door unawares could symbolize his being pulled into the situation, but then what happens ... the "light" (which dissolves illusion and does not promote it) uncovers or transforms this "evil" opposition. So perhaps the entry of your father into this situation will in some way provide for a turning point in the conflict. Look for the change in the energy of the "opposition."

I suppose the change could be a disguise created to throw you off, but I do not think so. Then again ... there is no definitive ending to the dream. The just leave. Do you think they left for good? Was it temporary? What do you feel? Without an ending, it is hard to say whether or not the information you gave them was a good idea. But they did leave, and you did want them to.

With your father there both physically and symbolically, I lean towards the neutralizing possibility. Perhaps your father will somehow bring about (not necessarily directly) or signify the neutralizing of the opposition.

The jug of water is symbolic of the state of your emotions related to this situation, "bottled up." Your emotions are contained. Is this good or bad? This could suggest that either you feel emotionally imprisoned, or that you need to contain your emotions when dealing directly with the opposition. Which is it?

And is it the eunuchs that make you uncomfortable, or the information you detail to them?

posted July 03, 2002 02:19 AM         

You are right. The forces, female/eunuchs whatever they are make me uncomfortable in the dream. Though they changed forms, I did not trust or believe them. They then left-went away-I think this was the end.
Info-it seemed they wanked my help
Has something clicked now?
Seems the battle is still on as they dont die.
What do u (the expert) say?