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Spiritua
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posted May 14, 2002 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message
Last night, I had a very vivid dream I'd like to share with you.

I was standing in a field at nighttime, and was around a huge crowd of people, male and female, who were naked. I caressed one of the males. He whispered, "It's okay. Here, it's really okay to be you." I said, "Thank you," was overjoyed and really meant it.

Then the scene shifted to several days later. I was dressed in normal clothes. I was in another group of people, and they were clothed. They seemed not to be very spiritual. I tried to tell them about the wonderful new people I met, and they laughed at me instead of listening. This made me very upset. I became a movie star and the scene shifted to a fight that was taking place on a wire overtop a huge plain of mud. I was fighting against a red-haired man wearing a cape.

Fifty dream-years passed, and I became nostalgic for the wonderful people from the beginning of the dream, so I seeked them out.

I found them. Suddenly, they trapped me within a huge maze of walls that were closing in on me. The people were far above me, looking down at me with great interest. There was one female who was even more interested than the others, leaning down conspicuously and watching closely.

I asked them what was happening, and they said they were going to kill me. I was extremely confused, but not scared. All I could think to say was, "Why??"

They responded that they were going to kill me because when I had originally met them, I had thought it was Tuesday, but it was actually Wednesday- making today ( in dream-time) Thursday.

The scene shifted again and I was looking at stickers. Somehow, the stickers moved like the smilies on this site and were the faces of the people who I thought were wonderful and for some reason were trying to kill me. They were winking. I tried to look at all of them, and there were several that I really enjoyed.

This is where the dream ended- but my narrative is not completed yet.

Thinking over the dream after I woke up, I wondered why the dream was giving me such comfortable images of the people who were trying to kill me. Surely, I was supposed to be more afraid of them than that?

Then, my inner voice told me the answer. They were not going to kill me- they were going to rebirth me.

In the poem "23", I had written, "She will love you, and love you, and love you, and kill you, and rebirth you."

Then, I wondered why the people didn't just tell me they were going to kill me and then rebirth me?

The answer my inner voice gave me was because they wanted to see if I could figure it out on my own, to see how skilled I was at metaphorical thinking.

It made me feel awesome. So, that's one aspect of the dream I understood. However, I didn't understand anything else. Will someone please interpret the dream for me? Thank you. I'm very curious to find out what people, especially Ra, will come up with.

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gooberlily
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posted May 15, 2002 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gooberlily     Edit/Delete Message
Wow Spiritua! Wow!

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Ra
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posted May 15, 2002 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting, Spiritua!

I will get to this asap!

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Ra
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posted May 16, 2002 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Spiritua - This dream kind of strikes me at a couple of levels. The first, and easiest to explain, is the theme of incarnating, dealing with karma (maze), dying/"rebirthing" (at least aspects of karmic-created self), and understanding. Which leads to your incredible inner voice!

Many/most of the symbols relayed through the dream have everything to do with what your inner voice told you. The entire deam is a reflection of that idea!

The symbols can be broken down more and there is somewhat more detail. You are standing within the collective unconscious (field/nighttime/crowd). Aspects of self are not hidden, they are uncovered (naked people) and perhaps something of death/rebirth of aspects is suggested (nighttime). Touching/caressing the male could suggest the need for establishing contact with the masculine forces, and could reflect some waking-life desire, manifested sexually, that deals with inhibitions or other issues concerning men. Was this caressing of a sexual/sensual nature or was it more of curiosity, or just a natural thing? Either way, regenerative energies (rebirth) are implied.

Shift back to "reality." You find that people are "clothed", hidden, unenlightened, wrapped in matter. They are blinded by their own personas (clothing) and unwilling to see your new understanding/discovery. (you, too, are "clothed") You become upset (it can be frustrating!), then the scene shifts.

You as a movie star could represent some magnified aspect of self, or perhaps a higher self, which is in conflict (fight) with the desire nature of self (red-haired man). This is a strong, somewhat hidden (cape), aggressive and fiery (red-haired man) aspect, and also deceptively intellectual.

From the perspective of your "movie star" self, or higher aspect of self, you see that the conflict between these forces is precarious and perhaps in need of balance (wire). The loosing force, male/female, will fall into the "mud" and perhaps become stuck in some world of emotion/illusion, so balance is necessary.

Next there is a yearning for a reconnection with those primordial forces, with the un-hidden, unclothed truths. You find the connection but also find yourself separated, enclosed within self-imposed boundaries and limitations (maze). Your higher self (the interested female) takes a symbolic look at the life she chose to experiment with (you in maze).

Killing you probably represents the end of a current aspect of self. I am thinking that the reference to the days of the week may have indicated that "you" are farther along than "you" thought "you" were, and that a certain cycle is coming to a close (near end of week).

It seems there is a connection being made between "them" and the energies of this site (smilie stickers). Perhaps "they" are suggesting that interacting with this site (or at least this type of thought) will catalyze the death of some aspect of self, and thus a rebirth, a new aspect.

All I know is that I would totally pay attention to that inner voice!

Does any of this make sense?

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Spiritua
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posted May 16, 2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it does! Thank you very much. It's late and I'm tired, but I want to explain my interpretation of your interpretation eventually. For now, all I'll say is that your interpretation is right, and thank you. There is more to come later.

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