posted April 20, 2002 10:27 PM         

No offense, but I get a strange sense of something kind of misguiding, or misleading, or even deviousness. Nothing malicious, but something ... mildly deceitful?

Are you testing us?

posted April 20, 2002 11:23 PM         

I don't understand why you would think I was "testing" anyone??? Though I do feel honored that you replied.

posted April 21, 2002 12:38 AM         

Both snakes and Isis I see as intensely spiritual images, but I wouldn't know what to make of them if they were put together like that...if it was a snake...was the snake eating the statue, or bringing you the statue because a snake has no hands...holding the statue in its mouth and presenting it to you?...?....?.....?

It is a strange dream indeed, and one that I can picture very well in my mind. Perhaps your higher s-Elf would use such a strong visual statement because you can't hear? That's something I just thought about...

posted April 21, 2002 05:26 AM         

i am isis , the one with the magickal words , my words had gave life to horus after he was bitten by a scorpion that had sprang out of the heart og gheb , turn away fire serpents who had came to bite this man's ka (spirit) i isis that one that knows the sacred nams beseage you.

so basicliy i'd say that this is a sign for both welth and danger , i wish there was more i could say about it but that's all i remember.

posted April 21, 2002 01:15 PM         

Nonetheless, the message, as I see it, is fairly short and simple, although the symbology being used is quite deep and meaningful.

Gooberlily is right about the spiritual symbology, this is direct. The snake/serpent is the means by which the Isis energy is being brought. This symbol, of the snake with mouth wide open, is a very ancient symbol which conveys a specific meaning, as gooberlily said. Adwen also touched upon it. As seen in ancient symbols, it is usually an egg in the mouth, symbolizing the nucleus of some new knowledge or wisdom or energy, being brought about by a rising in one's own energy levels (snake). Your "egg" is very specific - a statue of Isis. Isis is a symbol of the Goddess, of feminine energies, of Mother. She symbolizes the culmination of femine potential or energy. She is a supreme creator. She is the mother of Horus, wife and half-sister of Osiris, granddaughter of Ra. In her we have much the same energy as Mary, only more forceful.

The desert has connotations of subconsciousness, life behind the veil of apparent barenness, energies of an infinite nature. An appropriate setting for the appearance of the serpent energies.

From within the subconscious, energies divine are being presented to you, and this has to do with balance. Isis in the statue form is symbolic of those energies in a bound state, not yet released, something to meditate upon. Either you need this energy, or you have it and are being asked to use it.

Did I say the message was "fairly short and simple?" I suppose it is, but now I am becoming almost bogged down with the depth of the symbology! There is a great deal of power here. Who are you? What is it that you need to create? I get a very strong impression of you creating, and it seems, again as gooberlily said, almost "artistic." This is a creation stemming directly from pure creative force, from the Source. It encompasses all levels of being - from spirit to soul to mind to physical manifestation. Whatever it is that you are being presented, the energies behind it are strong, balanced (or will be), and (again as gooberlily said!) focused.

There are also indications that perhaps through the use of masculine forces - logic, reason, mental deliberation - the feminine balnce for the creation will come. Are you having trouble completing some preliminaries concerning some creation? If so, the message would be telling you to keep thinking it through, continue to manufacture with the mind, and the final bit of inspiration will come to you, to finish the thought, to facilitate the physical manifestation of the mental creation.

I think I am running off on tangents here, I get the feeling I may be over-analyzing. It is just that this dream can be taken in so many different contexts when it comes to the surface of the meaning, but the basis of it remains the same, as stated earlier (I think!).

There is still much coming to mind, but I will stop here to let you give me some feedback! There are so many spirals!

posted April 21, 2002 04:57 PM         

Wow, interesting stuff here I didn't realize that the snake eating the egg was an ancient symbol. But that makes sense.
DNA test have been done of natives of South and Central America, and they show a they have a genetic link with the Egyptians and other Middle Eastern peoples...
finally, science is proving what we have already known

posted April 21, 2002 11:06 PM         

Also I have been doing research on dragons. The reason for this research is because I went to school for the deaf and the blind. A fiery red dragon was our macot (still is).

First of all, I had been puzzled by my unusual experiences happening there like a phantom monk, floating lights of different colors, a flying green disk same size as your dinner plate and other things. My close friends have seen them, too. We were children then and are now adults. I told them that I'd find out the answer someday..that was about 7 years ago.

Then one night at my apartment I happened to picked up my stuffed white dragon called "Magic" by TY then it came to me all of a sudden that our mascot was a dragon and that I felt the answer could come to me by finding out the truth about dragons and what they were exactly, what they represented, where they came from, etc. So I went to the bookstore. Wow, so many books on dragons .. like so many people are Gung-ho on dragons. Hmmmmm...I found one that I was looking for. I only wanted information/history. That's when I learned about energy lines also called "Dragon's breath" which was causing these unusual things. So when the guy came to visit with me, I showed him the book and told him the whole story..he was a little skeptic at first even though he was a very well learned and a wise man who wrote several books including "Planets in Love". He himself was an astrologer. (His name is John Townley. He also wrote about the law of seriality .. one thing leading to another.) When it was time for him to go back north, he stopped by St. Augustine, FL. That's where my school is located at. That town was named as one of the most haunted places.

He emailed me, was excited. He happened to run into a guy from Denver there who went to his workshop years ago. That guy was in St. Augustine mapping energy lines. Turned out that the strongest line ran from the Old Mission through to the school so he said it was no wonder it was like a McDonald to the "UFOs"! I went...Wow!! How do I explain that to my friends?

I thought I had found my answer, but it wasn't enough. Later on, I learned that Dragon and Serpent are one the same, they're interchangable. I learned that "Slaying the Dragon" means to topple the Goddess worship, forcing pagans, heathens to convert to Christianity. (actually I figured this out myself.)

I plan to write a book about it. I believe that the vision/dream of Isis statue in Serpent's mouth is telling me that I have an answer because I finally realized that dragon is one with serpent and represents Goddess, Mother of Life, etc. I haven't been into Egyptian religion yet. I only know about Iris and Orisis from Linda Goodman's book and from here. I currently am reading books on Druidry.

Ra, I hope that maybe this will shed light on what you're thinking about this. Your post is so wonderful!! It makes it more clear to me..that goes for Gooberlily and others, too.

I wonder why they gave "Fiery Red Dragon" to the deaf & blind children. That's too strong a sign. I guess that according to Christians, we are children of devil , but somehow their Higher-sELVES k-KNEW that we are children of the Great Goddess herself ... something was influcing them.

Gooberlily, that image would be interesting on a Tarot card. I collect tarot cards and have over 100 of them now. It didn't look like the Serpent was eating the statue. It looked more like it was showing me something. It moved spirally and pretty fast then stopped fast in front of me, opening its mouth. There stood a lifelike statue of Isis. Too bad I am not an artist. I can't draw a line! But I imagine that it's be some awesome art.

posted April 21, 2002 11:25 PM         

Same what Ra said.

posted April 22, 2002 10:22 PM         

Funny Mele, those tarot cards. Over a hundred, wow! I think I have seven decks, at present. I had a rather spiritual experience lately involving the tarot and some "extra" Major Arcana cards, and the symbol of the serpent presented itself in my mind as one of the supplementary cards. These cards don't have to do with the evolution of experience the soul takes part in, they have to do with qualities of our lessons...in other words, the cards point to lessons that have been botched, ones that are going well, and others that are being re-presented to us for us to take a swing at it again...etc., etc., etc. I can't really delve at length into it at this time, but the serpent is figured prominently, and it was through doing a little bit of reading on the Egyptian culture (of which I don't know nearly as much as I'd like to) that I was given this gift of eleven extra cards...and one with a snake...eating it's tail, in my case I can see the symbol you were presented with very well in my mind, and if I ever can paint it I will most surely give you the painting.

Just so much to think about Mele...have you been doing any dancing lately? Do you remember that conversation that we had way back concerning dancing with sound, and that it's possible to dance with it without hearing it in the conventional sense? I know the desert and twining like serpents was mentioned somewhere in that conversation, but I can't remember exactly the context now!

Those are some wonderful experiences you've had Mele, and do keep us up to date on your dragon research, I love reading about it!

posted April 23, 2002 12:28 AM         

Something you mentioned about the school got me to wondering if maybe most of the students who wound up there had it planned from the beginning. Knowing before they were born, that they would be enriched spiritually from attending a school so rich in 'dragon' vibes. Really makes me wonder what you were studying when you slept (on the astral plane).

And not having human sight and hearing distractions would intensity the 'inner' eye and ear. Don't you think it would be interesting to find out how many other classmates were finding high spiritual paths like you are?

Do write that book...it is what you were really studying

posted April 23, 2002 01:43 AM         

I shouldn`t worry too much about that

Your not the only one that`s been pursued through Heaven by a Great Man eating Serpent
Shrugged off through a main course of Winds and Storms,before settling down to a dessert of Owl and Badger attacks

All in a Nights work for our Isis

posted April 23, 2002 01:56 AM         

Apparantly in Dreams I later found this symbolizes a powerful female foe that you`d do well to avoid

On another occasion I stood between two Serpents
One on either side
Coming towards me
Getting closer and closer
And then
Joining in me

And I woke up thinking I must be the 3rd Snake

There`s definetly a connection there however between Isis and Snakes

posted April 23, 2002 10:08 AM         

The spirals that are emanating from this Isis/Serpent connection are going to lead you into the very beginnings of human kind, twisting and writhing throughout all religions, as well as science. The VERY ancient symbol of two intertwined snakes has everything to do with our own DNA, the double helix, and you will notice what the symbol is for the American Medical Association (as well as practically all medical institutions throughout history). The connections will be apparently endless, connecting far flung civilizations, and will take you into the very depths of the cosmos.

Gooberlily, you are familiar with the Uroborus, are you not? The snake, swallowing its own tail? It is a symbol for cycles, for the Great Mother archetype (coincidentally!).

Mele, it seems that you do not need my interpretations on this any longer, you have collected some of the finest minds on the web! And the discoveries should be yours to experience, not for me to emotionlessly babble about. This is a great line of thought indeed!

So, I am now off to do some camping with my son on one of the strongest of the "dragon paths" in this area of the US, Stone Mountain. What a coincidence!

Have fun!!

posted April 24, 2002 12:10 AM         

P.S. - Yep, familiar with Ouroborus (alternatively
spelled: oroborus, uroborus, or oureboros), I've just seen it spelled so many ways I usually say the "snake eating tail" type of thing

posted April 25, 2002 06:10 PM         

Fri., Nov. 1, 1996

Dear John,

I’m really enjoying this thing on the infinite Puzzle of Synchronicity by opening up once again the door to unbounded awareness. I can force a new language at will to help the explorer create new realities in which to manifest an excelerated lens to look at the earth’s hidden agenda. Thanks for bringing this important work to my attention. I feel that seriality is the missing key that will unlock the dragon line mystery (Synchronically in motion). Just being mindful of the earth’s nervous system allows one to penetrate those morphic fields, I think the earth is communicating with those who will touch this concept more deeply. What were discovered here in St. Augustine is a very powerful pulsation that has been activated like a magnetic touch. People are drawn here and then are set afire with creativity. Seriality is in full bloom and to live any other seems arcane. This city is alive with journeymen and those who teach teachers. I put the question out and bout concerning dragons and received an inedient answers. It seems that there were dragons (other dimensional) here, but they left because of some harmonic shift in the early 80’s. Somebody at the dome channeled one who was off the coast said that it was going to hang around. So I am opening up to some dragon synchronicity. The hooded beings are monks who during the conflict with the English were suddenly killed (there are many ghost anomalies here that include Indian, Spanish, English and Civil War victims) there are also many apparitional activities with holy beings appearing and blessing those who need grace. Many of these angels appear at the spot we went to. The lights have been seen by many including myself, I received those lights to be part of a celestial grid that hooks up the earth to her solar system brothers and sisters. I believe that this 30th parallel pyramid node is that a direct link with St. Augustine has been activated by the convergence and other harmonic frequency changes. It feels like a veil has been lifted and other more infined aspects of nature are more accessible. My mediating on the ley nodes (at least 30 min.) you charge your mental & body. This allows us to then dial direct into the soul of the earth. UFOs are in abundance out here. By the way Porpis Point was a real hot spot for sighting until the early 80’s. It seems that this shift is more. Other dimensional in its manifestation, kinda like spiritual in nature. Maybe the seriality concepts are keys to metacelestial technology, Angel contraptions, sun machines. Well, anything really is possible. I will send more data as soon as possible.

posted April 25, 2002 06:35 PM         

Gooberlily:

No I haven't been doing dancing lately, but I have been in my mind. Always. We ought to start a new topic about tarot. I am still learning. I happen to have so many of them because a new age store was closing, selling tarot cards at 70-80% off so I got a lot.

Avatar: Some dreams you're having. They sound awesome to me! Let us know more or what you've found out for yourself.

Ra: I knew about DNA, but I had forgotten about the symbol for the Amercian Medical Association having two snakes! Do you think we are coming into something big here on Earth? I didn't know Stone Mountain had energy spots. Did you feel something there? Opening more & more cans of worms/serpents/dragons I think we are learning something new here. Maybe Isis is communicating or we're opening up to her.

YIVY: Yes, I do feel that I chose this path (hearing loss) so that I could have an extraordinary experience at the school. I wouldn't trade this experience for anything else. Yes, many of my friends who went there are open to something so spiritual. There's letters on the front of the gate on the right side where the more powerful energy line is that says "Home of the Dragons." I was one of the Dragons Cheerleaders for 4 years there.

AceYellow Welcome to the Lindaland! Thanks so much for your wonderful message.

posted April 26, 2002 12:05 AM         

A 'dragon' smilie

posted April 26, 2002 12:25 AM         

What a wonderful letter Mele, thanks so much for sharing it with us!

In case you're interested, there was a thread started recently here on the Tarot by Birdsong, here's a link:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000279.html

posted April 26, 2002 12:43 AM         

I wish my Chinese sign were Dragon. I am a Tiger..this makes me a double cat since I am a But that's all right since I read in some books that cats and dragons do get along very well. Right? I've got Mars in Scorpio, though. This is very strong!

According to books I read about dragon (energy) lines ... Christians tended to build churches over power spots that once were Pagan worship places. I am curious to see what was on the very same spot the Old Mission is built on over 400 years ago. The school I went to is over 100 years old now. Charles Ray also went there! He left before I came there (he graduated) I believe that the book I plan to write would be very interesting.

John at first thought I was far out when I told him about floating lights, flying disk, phantom hooded beings, strange creatures that sometimes came to play. What a surprise for him when his very friend that he ran into told him about other witnesses as well as himself so this makes me feel better. I know I wasn't seeing things.

Thanks for the tarot topic, I will check it out, honey.

posted April 26, 2002 04:45 PM         

I am a Gemini Metal Dog/Dragon.

Also, the Dragon is considered a very powerful entity in China, where Purple Leprechaun once was.

Does anyone kNOW what kind of spiritual things happen with Dragons in China?

posted April 30, 2002 06:11 PM         

OPENING THE MOUTH OF THE OSIRIS ANI

The god Ptah shall open my mouth, and the god of my town shall unfasten the swathings, the swathings which are over my mouth. Thereupon shall come Thoth, who is equipped with words of power in great abundance, and shall untie the fetters, even the fetters of the god Set which are over my mouth. And the god Tem shall cast them back at those who would fetter me with them, and cast them at him. Then shall the god Shu open my mouth, and make an opening into my mouth with the same iron implement wherewith he opened the mouth of the gods. I am the goddess Sekhmet, and I take my seat upon the place by the side of Amt-ur the great wind of heaven. I am the great Star-goddess Saah, who dwelleth among the Souls of Anu. Now as concerning every spell, and every word which shall be spoken against me, every god of the Divine Company shall set himself in opposition thereto.
http://wolf.mind.net/library/ancient/egyptian/bookodead/contents.htm

posted April 30, 2002 11:23 PM         

Have to check it out better when I'm not quite as tired as I am tonight.