posted April 10, 2002 04:52 AM         

It began that I was living at home with my parents in an old, large building with many rooms...I could not decide which room I wanted to take and renovate as my own, I had a choice of 4 rooms but could not decide as each had good points & each had detractions. I was unsatisfied with the room I was using for the time being as it was a bit cramped, not enough space, however I liked the light in it. One room had lots of space but no windows and I knew, although I couldn't see it, that a beautiful old fireplace had been covered up by an ugly false wall. despite pressure from my parents...I simply could not decide on a room.
As I walked around the outside of the "house"...I could see it had once been an old cinema...the actuall cinema being upstairs.
I had been told that the cinema had been demolished and there was only the shell & debris left upstairs (If I wanted a room...it would have been the upstairs as it had both space & light)however I noticed that at the top of the stairs a person was closing the door to the cinema..."wow there still is something up there!" Although I knew I was being a bit naughty I decided to investigate.
I climbed up the stairs which were extremely steeply raked, requiring me to climb on hands and knees until I made it to the door (which was unlocked and opened easily) and peered around the door.
The interior was dark but by no means derelict....in fact it was beautifully restored and ushers were moving about preparing for a screening that evening. My brother had joined me inside the cinema along with a steadily growing crowd of patrons. Even the ramps down to the seats were very steeply raked and although the carpet was softish, you had to carefully watch your footing so as not to slide. I was aware that "downstairs" did not approve of, talk about, or even acknowledge the existance of the "upstairs".

I sat down to watch the movie...it was called (If I remember it correctly) 'MIRACLES x 2' it was the story of twins (2 males) who were geniuses...prodigys...it was a comedy with a moral.

After the movie I somehow ended up in the front yard and I was washing the front brick fence (in quite an obsessive manner) with a bucket filled with a liquid which increasingly took on the consistency of apple sauce!! (bring on those men with little white suits! hahahah! )
then suddenly I was in the car (it was a convertable)and I was washing the windscreen with apple sauce too!
on the tape deck was playing a song...I think I may have wrote it...

"I've walked many miles to get holes in these shoes....I've sung thousands of songs before...but I can't get where I'm going to... until I remember the score (as in musical score)...I can't go back home...until I solve the puzzle...I have to sing a song to you... but I don't know which one"
~~~~~

...and that is when I was woken by my telephone.

Aus

posted April 10, 2002 01:10 PM         

Thank you!

posted April 10, 2002 08:01 PM         

Scully I think I understand the 'upstairs/downstairs on some levels...but I also suspect it signifies far deeper concepts too...just not sure how it relates to me yet!

...and the apple sauce....ahhhh..I'm not sure the apple sauce in itself is the key thing...but maybe the process of the liquid turning to applesauce ...then again I could be wrong! hehee

posted April 11, 2002 12:28 AM         

I am not a dream dr..but I can take a stab.... feel free to accept or reject, ok?

as I read your dream, and details, I was pulled into your dream, this has only happened a few times, and each time it was because of where you "went" on your "spirit-journey" in the dreamstate...a very real place, that exists on another "plane"

I actually felt the carpeting in the cinema.. (smile)..I have been to this "cinema" before.

ok, the beginning of the dream and you have 4 rooms to choose from but not one of them is "just right..", meaning that you are further in your "journey" then you give yourself credit for...you even go outside to look the situation over from a different angle..(viewpoint) and you are drawn to see the upper level..(higher conscience) so of course you HAVE to go there!! there is a few small obstacles you have to overcome...(belief systems?) but you will because you made it up there..upper level is indeed your higher awareness...the movie.."miracles X 2 " wow..says alot!! and though you may not remember all the plot, you know it was a comedy (isn;t LIFE a comedy?...and it had a moral)..I think this was a "schooling session" because your HigherSelf thought you were ready.

remember the symbolism is really what things mean to YOU...
but to pick the dream apart:

the large older building with many rooms...I take this a many different paths to get were you are going.

you were lucid in that you had awareness of the good points and the bad points...lucid dreams almost always are spiritual tools.

the beautiful fireplace..(the true eternal soul..) was covered with ugly wall,,,,(the sometimes UGLY facade of our own ego...)

the person up there you saw..I feel was a guide to summon you up there. (lucky you!!)

the climb to the upper level was not easy, but though ingenunity..you MADE it!!!! (the journey into awareness takes work and commitment, but with trials and struggles, you can make it!)

the "patrons" I feel were others sharing that "class" learning with you.....and you sometimes meet some of them in real life..(you actually met "up" there!..so you have an instant recognition, but can't recall why!

the door was unlocked ... a welcome if even I saw one!!

"and it was dark, but not derelect"..to me...this is things hidden from those not wanting to "see". the car is usually symbolic of soul travel...applesauce, Hmmmmmm I only can come up with >>>keeping the doctor away..and "pectin!" good for you!(As in maybe healing with foods)????

well, this is just my "take"..again..you can take what feels right to you, and just discard the rest..Blessings!

posted April 11, 2002 03:17 AM         

!! wOw !! Awesome inSight. I took the cinema to be the higher consciousness too, but I hadn't thought of the fireplace thing - very

Aus~ AMAZING dream, and your recall is incredible !

~Princess

posted April 11, 2002 01:09 PM         

I probably will not get to finish this today (time constraints), but I will finsh!

This is what I have: Living at home with parents in the old building could represent you, more specifically the old you and the present you. There is a need for more space, growth. There is a hint of feeling that this scene symbolically reflects your pre-incarnation state (and thus your unconscious) and the decisions you made as to the specifics of your chosen incarnation, and more overtly there is the feeling that this scene represents a stage at which you are presently, a stage in which there is a quantum growth, or a growth in consciousness. I feel there is a connection being presented here that alludes to cycles of growth, of "birth", of re-birth. In addition to this we have the number 4 being presented. No coincidence to be sure!

Carl Jung believed we should always pay close attention when 4 is relayed in our dreams, as it is always a signal that concerns the dreamer personally, and I am a fan of Jung! I do not know how or if this relates to Linda's definitions for 4, but in dream symbology it relates to the foundations of the psyche, and to the world in general (earth, air, fire, water). Also, alchemically, there are four phases to the transformation process. 4 also relates to boundaries and possibly your examination of them, which fits nicely with the 4 rooms you examine in your dream. 4 can also denote a cyclic influence, particularly the beginning of one. It is also a sign of psychological growth or expansion of consciousness. The 4 rooms you examine could be symbolic, therefore, of a realization that your current psychology or consciousness is ready for expansion, that you have progressed to a point where the 4 "lower" points of foundation no longer serve you, and so you are now impelled "upward". Are there not 4 lower chakras? There could be a symbolic connection here as well, especially considering your search for a "light" space, and the "fire"place behind the "wall".

So, it seems that all of the symbology in this first scene is somehow related to an increase in consciousness or awareness, and we have not even made it "upstairs" yet!

Unfortunately, the cinema scene will have to wait until later, but my thoughts mirror SAR's.

posted April 11, 2002 10:49 PM         

I have been thinking about the cinema..I am thinking, again, just MY thoughts....that the cinima was for your bennitt..to see..to watch...to learn..like to "watch" as things unfold..as opposed to trying to DO something, or MAKE something happen.

My symbolism would be...watching a movie would be to learn, or experience something empathetically or spiritually, with out having to REALLY experience it. you said the dreams was a comedy, but had a moral.

Can't wait to see what else Ra has to say.

posted April 12, 2002 07:31 PM         

SAR01, you are indeed quite insightful and show much more natural ability at this than I! I am honored to interpret with you!

I would say you all are correct that the upstairs represents higher self. It is also interesting that you were told the cinema was defunct, and found it to be anything but. This seems to represent the general populace attitude that there is nothing to bother with the "higher" self, there is nothing to it. But your awareness tells you otherwise, and you climb your way to the upstairs cinema, the unconscious, the higher self. SAR described that well. The underlying theme is consciousness moving into higher consciousness. The cinema itself is dark, but functioning and navigable. This describes the higher mind perfectly, from our perspective, dark simply symbolizing lack of light, of awareness, and not something negative. Your consciousness, or at least (and more appropriately) subconsciousness, is now seated within your unconscious, ready for the message!

Watching this movie could symbolize a situation you have experienced which has been manipulated by your higher mind in order to convey a message - the moral. Or it could be some non-experiential type of lesson, as SAR stated. However, this next possibilty struck me as very peculiar, it reads: "Viewing a movie in which you have a part may have a meaning similar to that of the double or twins, and may signal that significant material is emerging or ready to emerge from the unconscious." - Sandra Thompson

And your movie is about TWINS?! This definition seems to fit too well, except that you are not a character in the movie (were you?). There is certainly some specific meaning concerning this movie, the title, the story, and the moral. Do you remember anything else about it? Does anyone have any ideas? This is the crux of the dream, the most important part.

Whatever the movie was about, the message was passed from the unconscious (higher self), to the subconscious (dream state), and is ready to emerge into your waking consciousness. But before, or perhaps while, this is happening, you will be required, or impelled, to cleanse the barriers you have created (fence and windshield). This cleansing will be in the form of healing energies (apple) that will be the result of a combining of those forces emanating from within the conscious and subconscious (apple sauce - solid/liquid).

And the song on the radio sums it all up quite nicely in an abstract kind of way!

posted April 12, 2002 10:55 PM         

Could the washing of the windscreen in applesauce also have signified a need to block out the accepted view of what most term reality and rely on internal introspection for navigation? as in smearing the glass we were no longer able to see out of it, however we were able to continue driving without fear or distraction somehow.
I feel this was important as of lately I have more and more profoundly begun suspecting that people en masse are being duped into believing propaganda type reality, buying an illusion sold to them by sheer force of peer pressure and accepting it as reality....so that it indeed becomes that (reality) and In my own life I am battling strong opposition as I do not buy into the collective reality! I can accept that it is their reality because it is what they choose, but I do not wish to be a party to it anymore but I am finding it hard to extricate myself from the collective and to walk the line between their reality and mine...without compromising my ideals and without giving people cause to believe that I have totally lost my mind! hehehe (If only they knew, or could see, that I haven't lost my mind, I have in fact found it! ...well, in the process of finding it!)
the hardest thing is that once you have seen truth, truly seen reality, you can never go back to the mindless acceptance of the collective reality no matter how nostalgic you may become for the simple innocence...I have lost that inoccence, althought I see now, with the truth of a child.
Aus

posted April 13, 2002 02:12 PM         

Aus, this dream describes perfectly the place where you are. You are no doubt correct in all of your own interpretations. The twins are probably symbolic of you, your two halves. They are higher in IQ, in intelligence, in mind, they are the higher you. One seen, the other not. Identical, yet opposite. So you WERE probably viewing yourself, the main character(s) in the movie. Very interesting.

And you will find that nearly everyone on this site is in a very similar position as yourself. Just upon the verge of something, something on the "tip of the tounge." We all are "battling" with the collective misconceptions/diversions that riddle our societies. We are becoming aware of a greater system of things. You are not alone! (although we seem to be!)

SARO1, you are amazing. I can feel it!

posted April 14, 2002 03:24 AM         

"I've walked many miles to get holes in these shoes....I've sung thousands of songs before...but I can't get where I'm going to... until I remember the score (as in musical score)...I can't go back home...until I solve the puzzle...I have to sing a song to you... but I don't know which one"

I like it!

The only question that remains is whether you are a Gemini with Aquarius Moon/Ascendant.

Are you?

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You are endless galaxies, you have seen but one star

posted April 14, 2002 03:36 AM         

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You are endless galaxies, you have seen but one star

posted April 15, 2002 09:48 AM         

The you of you is ready to emerge. Your higher self is going to go public!

posted April 15, 2002 12:36 PM         

I don't think I am not joking.

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You are endless galaxies, you have seen but one star

posted April 17, 2002 12:47 AM         

...as I was re-checking my chart, I came across a poem I wrote 2 years ago...it seems appropriate to post it now, so I'll put it up in the free for all.

Ra, you are a dear friend....thank-you
:love:
Aus

posted April 17, 2002 12:53 AM         

...now that, to me sounded gemini/aquarius...which is probably why I didn't think of it

Aus

posted April 30, 2002 01:36 AM         

I am really not all that amazing...I just... sometimes...click into the "flow"!!!

well, you know what I mean...