posted March 07, 2002 10:03 PM         

I was in a big arena, one of those stone types from the Roman days. I was on the floor of the arena surrounded by many people. There was a festival of some sort taking place, everybody was on the floor of the arena and nobody was in the stands.

I was wearing some sort of cloak, it was brown and roughly woven, and fraying at the edges. I was a woman, and I saw out of my eyes, but I was shorter than I am now, I was closer to the ground. The arena seemed to be on some sort of plateau or plain, and beside it there was a sloping hill, I actually believe some of the steps of the stands were built in to the side of the hill. Beyond the arena there was a sprinkling of tall trees, pine, evergreen and some other non-coniferous. Behind that, there was a path that ran a course parallel with the arena, it kind of wrapped partway around it, and behind that there was a forest. I was away from the arena and climbed up the slope towards the forest. I turned back and looked down at the arena, I felt I didn't want to go back there. I heard the sounds of one or two people in the area of the path, so I headed towards the thick of the forest. I was hungry, and a little bit in from the road I found a huge, towering tree. I presumed it to be an oak, but I could be wrong. All of the trees were old and very large, I haven't seen trees that big in my lifetime. In between them grew brush, undergrowth and small trees. I saw out of the corner of my eyes what seemed to be an old monument of some sort, it was made out of stones and falling apart, weeds and brush around it. I looked back at the tree before me, and looked up to its enormous branches fringed with leaves. I looked down at my feet to the base of the tree, and to my right on the ground I saw some greenery growing, and on top of it a twisted form that was decaying. I don't know if it was a body, it looked like it fell to the ground from somewhere, it looked like charred wood and woven evergreen and fir branches. I noticed some rope or cord that was slightly burnt and frayed and lay on top of it. I didn't concern myself with that so much, it somehow didn't bother me. I was hungry and found an large acorn on the ground, or nut maybe, I held it in my hand and looked at the top, it was fleshy and green as if it had just been broken off. I didn't hesitate, I knew I could eat it. I cracked the shell and ate it, it tasted sweet and nutty. I heard myself say in my head, "It was a bad year when we had to make bread from its flour. I am glad the harvests have been better." I looked for some more nuts, and found a rather large one and kept it in my hand to eat later. I looked with some sort of dread back at the arena through the thin veil of trees. I knew that I had to go back there.

I went very quietly back down the slope, and on to the steps in the stands of the arena. I looked up above me from where I came, and I saw a man in some sort of Roman(?) dress wearing a white tunic or toga, knee length, and a bronze colored helmet with some sort of red plumage or something at the top. He looked like he stepped out of the movie "Gladiator", except he wore no armor, no breastplate, and I didn't see any type of sword with him from where I was. I then saw another man in the same dress, in the area I came from. They seemed relaxed and walked slowly, one of them had his arms crossed like he was bored. I ducked, I didn't want them to see me. I heard one of the men say, "No, we won't have the people on the steps because it's unstable, nobody is allowed there." I thought one of them might be coming in my direction soon, so I ducked into what looked like a double-wide doorway made out of stone, two small pillars on either end supporting it. In the alcove, towards the right, I saw it lead toward some sort of small room. An middle aged woman with red hair rushed out, and asking a troupe of young girls around her, "Where is that girl? Where did she go! You all must sing songs for them and dance!" She stopped in front of me, grabbed the sleeve of my cloak and said, "There you are! Where have you been?" She began rushing the girls and I in a group toward the doorway I came through, she said, "Remember the song you are to sing?" I nodded as she pulled me along by my arm.

Then I blacked out, I saw nothing but black, but I heard the last notes of what I sang, and I thought my voice cracked on the last note. Anyway, I was happy with the performance.

Next thing I remember, I was in some sort of place with a lot of people around me, it was a room, or a dwelling, there was light where I was, and in front of me was a semi-circle of older men with white and greying hair, standing there talking amongst themselves. One of them, the oldest looking, I knew was important. The elders all thanked me and the one man said, "Thank you for the entertainment. Well done."

From there things skipped to some sort of normal dream, I didn't remember much of it except I was dancing in a circle with a lot of people. After that, I woke up.

Help! If you have the time Ra, I would love your input. Do you think this is symbolic, or an actual memory? I can't tell whether it is one or the other, or maybe a mixture of both. The fact it was so vivid makes me think in part it was a memory. If anyone else would have any thoughts on the matter, I would be very interested, as well.

posted March 08, 2002 04:43 AM         

* I had that 'dream' just before waking up in the morning,
* In that 'dream' I was looking out of my eyes, and,
* I could read the thoughts of the character that I was. In my case, I recalled what place and time it was.

My re-membered memory was very short, though. Wish it was as long as yours !

I am happy for everyone who are recalling fragments, tiny or substantial, from their other lives. Yay!

posted March 08, 2002 10:06 PM         

Elohim, this was a rather long dream for a flashback, probably the longest I've ever had. I've had other dreams with flashbacks similar to yours. They're usually shorter and happen right before I wake up or in the middle of a seemingly normal, nonsensical dream. I'm glad you've had this experience, as well.

Ra

Thanks for taking the time to give me your thoughts on this, I greatly respect you for your dream interpretation abilities.

posted March 09, 2002 12:13 AM         

It is the way you reacted to the nut (acorn) that makes me think so. You instantly knew it was a nut, and didn't even wait to grab and eat it.

Don't mistake me. When I say animal consciousness, I am not referring to an animal body, you were probably a human child then. It may be your soul's first experience in the human form, in the human world, that is why you dreaded going back to where you came from. (That is why you blacked out when you sang, your soul doesn't experience the singing, it is yet to rise to that level of consciousness.) You wanted to get back to the familiar animal world.

Ra, I think no symbolism is here. The description is so vivid, and 'real world', I don't know whether it came as a result of her practice of writing down her dreams.

Just my thoughts.

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You are endless galaxies, you have seen but one star

posted March 10, 2002 12:20 PM         

This dream defeats any great amount of dissection due to its nature, past life memory, and this becomes evident when one attempts to dissect it. There is far too much detail and recall.

But there is something common throughout the dream, and perhaps on different levels. Transition.

Like Raj, I feel like a transition occured in the life that you were dreaming of, some sort of spiritual or evolutionary transition. Also, you were re-experiencing a small bit of this life through a transition of consciousness, an old and a new state which temporarily overlapped. (makes one wonder if one could affect the other)

There is transition of scenery, from many people in a man-made structure to alone in a wooded area. (from one "arena" to another)

There is the old stone monument, and the huge, very alive trees. Possible reference to old ways, old beliefs, old you, and yet that which you are now, stemming from the past. Transition.

There is the greenery growing with something decayed or burned on top. Transition from old to new, or old in the new. The burnt rope on top could symbolize the old ties you had with it.

The burned thing, which you now describe as like a burnt effigy, and the acorn/nut. Again, old you and new you. The acorn is especially symbolic of potential wisdom, knowledge, growth, etc. Transition from old you to new you.

Then there is the scene with the Roman gladiator types back on the steps. This also feels something like a memory, but also seems to indicate an authority symbol, a kind of passive authority. Do you feel you are skirting some sort of authority in waking life? And what does that have to do with transition?

The next sequence, about the girl, the troupe, and the song and dance, also has a feeling of both memory and symbol. As you black out of this sequence, singing, you re-emerge into another, entertaining. Another transition, but from what to what, I am not certain. It could be from life to life, experience to experience, or level to level. The scene with the elder men gives me the feeling of something astral or interdimensional, and the purple they wear could be an indicator of this. I get a strange, elusive feeling from this bunch. What do you think?

Then you say you skipped to sort of a normal dream, where you may have been dancing in a circle with others. This also has a transitory feel, from "entertaining" to dancing.

So what is going on? Are you on the verge of some sort of transition? Or perhaps you are becoming even more aware of some connections between the you of now and the you of then? What is going on in your mind? Do you feel the powers that are at work behind the scenes? Is this some sort of acknowledgement by your subconscious that your awareness is increasing?

I feel the message has to do with the deep undercurrents of process in the cycles of your personal evolution and your awareness of them ... or something like that.

What do you think?

posted March 12, 2002 12:54 AM         

Thanks so much Raj and Raines for your thoughts about my dream

I know very little about the evolution from an animal type of consciousness to a human one, would you care to tell us a little about it Raj? Does it mean that in earlier lives a soul is more innocent in some sense, more deeply connected to animal instincts? I know that this life was not my first one, I do have earlier memories, but it is a thought I'm open to exploring.

Ra thanks so much dear. You've brought me to an epiphany. I've been trying to study the meanings of my dreams for many years, and I thank you for mentioning Robert Monroe a while back, I've been trying to read up about him and his research when I have the time and find it quite fascinating. Many of my dreams are like the one above, and many of them are past life situations where symbolism is involved...actual things that happened, but I am told in a way to remember the symbolism, the things I see for reflection into my present situation.

This may stem back to when I started seriously reading the Tarot and I started exploring my own past lives while doing the Rahdue's Wheel, there comes to a point in the spread where it "shows" you a past life situation relevant to this life. Many times I would get annoyed, because what happened in a past life was exactly the same as in this life, no matter how I tried to avert it.

My recall of dreams is always very detailed when I remember them, down to conversations, etc. I've come to find I have 4 basic types of dreams:

1. Astral travel and communication (I remember these very well, including entire conversations).
2. Past life dreams with symbolism involved relevant to this life and a situation at hand.
3. Precognitive dreams (these are rare, but I've come to accept the fact I do have them).
4. Straight-up dreams filled with "nonsense," very symbolic. Unfortunately, I don't remember those dreams well at all!

posted March 12, 2002 12:55 AM         

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Do you feel you are skirting some sort of authority in waking life? And what does that have to do with transition?

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This question has awakened me to something. It's not authority...it's more like obligation Some people in my life would like me to "join the club" so to speak, and be a part of a team. I'm not too keen on that. The transition is absolutely correct. I am in a HUGE state of transition, I've gone through a transition physically, moving my residence and so forth, but there's a much deeper transition that I know is taking place within myself, spiritually and mentally as I am looking within...I am finally at the verge of accepting myself for who I am. I think the acorns and the tree might represent my search within myself, the fact I have abandoned other peers and the life I once led so that I might be fed, so that I might find fulfillment. I know now my turning back to look at the arena represents my guilt.

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The next sequence, about the girl, the troupe, and the song and dance, also has a feeling of both memory and symbol. As you black out of this sequence, singing, you re-emerge into another, entertaining. Another transition, but from what to what, I am not certain. It could be from life to life, experience to experience, or level to level. The scene with the elder men gives me the feeling of something astral or interdimensional, and the purple they wear could be an indicator of this. I get a strange, elusive feeling from this bunch. What do you think?

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It's possible my guide was among the men there Geez...I don't know, it does have a little of an interdimensional flavor to it, upon reflection. It's possible that some of the "elders" there I know on the other side. Wait...yeah, it probably was on the other side. One of the biggest things I wanted to accomplish in this life was to be a singer, a musician. I was told at one point when I was sad about it, "You will be a musician of words, you will be remembered as that, so no regrets for you." and not to worry, because I have performed on the other side anyway. I may have skipped in the dream from the point in a past life where I was on stage to a memory in between lives. Oh, well Thanks Ra...I'm figuring more and more out from just your questions alone!

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...perhaps you are becoming even more aware of some connections between the you of now and the you of then?...Do you feel the powers that are at work behind the scenes? Is this some sort of acknowledgement by your subconscious that your awareness is increasing?

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I believe the answer is yes to all of the above. Thank you so much for helping me out here, you are truly gifted Ra

posted March 12, 2002 01:26 PM         

You are the gifted one! You have an incredible grasp upon what is happening, you know your mind well, and you understand. Your own interpretations are no doubt absolutely correct, and I feel more strongly (now that you have verified it) that the scene with the elders did take place in an "astral location" while out-of-body. I would also suggest that perhaps "they" were guiding the entire "dream" experience for the benefit of your understanding and growth, much as in a Monroe-type scenario.

The last segment of the dream, dancing in a circle, taken in this context, suggests something else to me. It reminds me of the circular methods of balancing used by our astral helpers, or guides, on us, to get us back in "sync." Perhaps it is a subconsciously disguised memory of a healing, or re-integrating, that they used on you after having taken you through an "interdimensional" experience. Then again, maybe you were just dancing in a circle, with "others"!

Anyway, whatever else is in the details, you obviously understand well. As I said before, this type of "dreaming" is atypical (at least to me), so I would love to hear any more dreams you get stuck on (short version )! Very interesting!

Oh, and I am glad you are reading Monroe, and that it strikes you. It is an interesting part of the path, and it seems to suit you!

Thank you

posted March 12, 2002 09:28 PM         

Would you like to hear a story? Skip it, if you don't want to be bored

Several years ago I met through a mutal friend a girl we'll call "Terri." Terri and I have very complex karma, to name all the instances of problems in past lives and how they have manifest in this life would take several pages. In a nutshell, she was my dressmaker during a lifetime in Frace several hundred years ago, a very wonderful but tragic lifetime I shared with my other half. In this life when I met my other half Terri was present for a lot of the drama. My twin was getting out of a relationship with another woman named Elizabeth in this lifetime (my younger sister in France), and Terri and I bonded over a lot of our similar memories from the France situation, etc. It was a very painful, but very wonderful time for me. Terri was there for me for moral support, and I was there for her, since she was re-living a pattern with my older brother from that lifetime. I also had a friend who I met who we'll call "Annie." Annie was my daughter with my twin from a previous lifetime. Annie and I were there for each other during the whole drama as well.

It became apparent Terri had a lot of problems with other people, most people did not like her at all. Terri had a bad relationship with her mother, and we became close because of it. I remained her friend, through good times and bad, as well as Annie. I gave up on the body my twin was in, I tried to free myself from the situation with his old body. It worked, I did, it was done. I developed a relationship with the next person my twin chose, and Annie developed a relationship with one of his friends. Terri did her best to destroy not only Annie's relationship, but my relationship with my twin in his new flesh temple. She stated to me that she still wanted me to be with his former flesh temple.

Hurt and angered by the way things turned out (there's much more of course to the story), Annie and I told Terri that we could no longer be friends with her because she directly interfered with our karma. She is the first friend in my life I have had to sever the connection with completely, the first person I have had to turn away because it's just too painful. You see, Terri is dating my twin's best friend. The relationship with my twin has ended, and he has since moved on to a new girlfriend named Elizabeth.

(Blah, blah, blah...Okay, you can start reading again here )

So, fast forward, Annie and I are friends, but we're not friendly with Terri or the men we were involved with. I've moved far away and left all of these situations behind...at least I've tried.

I'm going down to Brooklyn this Friday, for a friend's wedding during the evening.

Here's how my dream relates:

Today I got a call from Annie. Terri got in contact with Annie to tell her that her mother passed away, and the memorial service will be Friday, in Brooklyn. She told Annie to tell me. She does not know I was going to be in Brooklyn anyway this Friday.

The arena, festival, singing, dancing, leaving it behind:
My friends, the karma I have with them, my obligations, I left all of them. I will be seeing all of my friends from different circles at the wedding, and more at the memorial service if I decide to go.

Going into the woods, eating acorns:
My journey here to upstate New York, in the woods, the mountains. The fact I have hermit-ized myself and have been taking the time to look within.

The soldiers commenting that the arena was unstable:
Reference to the fact the situations down in Brooklyn are unstable with my friends and that I might get injured in some way (spiritually, mentally) by putting myself in that place.

The woman with the red hair:
I should have seen that coming. Terri is the only friend of mine with red hair, and the reference to her wondering where I was...well, I haven't seen or spoken with Terri since our friendship ended. I know she wants me to be there at her mother's memorial service, since issues with her mom were a big part of our relationship as friends. The fact that I didn't hear myself sing...means maybe that I'm unsure about going to see her, going to the memorial service. I still don't know if I will go or not. It is likely if I go I will see my twin there, and I don't know if I could handle seeing him. Funny enough, after not talking to my other half since we parted ways I sent him a letter last week asking if he could mail me some things of mine back, "since I don't know when or if we will ever see each other again."

The elders in the dream I presume are my spiritual support, and they are reassuring me that whatever decision I make, it will be the right one, a job well done. Though I think it's kind of sick they derive entertainment from this

posted March 13, 2002 10:11 AM         

Good luck!

posted March 15, 2002 04:04 PM         

Ra, that is some ~excellent~ dream interpretation you are doing there~ To look for "the big picture," and a ~pattern~ is where all the meaning lies.

I can see you fully understand and live how important a ~rich inner life~ is!

Hugs,
Melody
Heart:

posted March 17, 2002 03:47 AM         

Keep it up!

Animal concsiousness, is the early stages of evolution of the soul. When a soul enters the human body first time, it would have already been in animal bodies, in previous lifetimes, so that it could reside in the human life form much easily. It is like learning to type. You don't go straight away and start typing. You first get acquainted with the keyboard. The new soul needs to be happy with physical functions, so that it can concentrate on higher levels much easily. So we all live as animals in the early stages of evolution, in order to 'prepare' ourselves.

Your dream looked to me like a soul in animal consciousness entering human body for the first time, and trying to go 'back home'. It was a different lifetime and now you seemed to live the same thing - as an observer. You just watched yours-elf doing what you did 'then'.

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You are endless galaxies, you have seen but one star

posted March 17, 2002 05:13 PM         

There is much more to her dream, symbols that make much more sense the way she explained them. But it is not necessary to analyze any further, as she understands well, obviously!

I am curious about her red-headed friend, though. The dream indicates that the friend may wish to communicate with her, and that she (gooberlily) will just kind of blindly go along with it, for her own reasons.

There seems to be some interwoven karmic/pastlife issues working themselves out here. Gooberlily, how was Brooklyn?

posted March 17, 2002 06:58 PM         

Did you go to Brooklyn after all? How'd it go? I am wondering if you did go if you saw your Twin, and if you did, how it affected you or how you feel about it. I have this feeling it wouldn't be as hard on you as you might have thought after all

~Princess

posted March 17, 2002 10:47 PM         

I went down to Brooklyn for the wedding, it was very nice. My red-headed friend did indeed call me upstate, the first time I've talked to her in about six months or so.... She called the night before I left for Brooklyn and wanted to know if I was coming to her mom's wake. I told her that I couldn't because the wedding was at the same time, but I offered my condolences. She wanted to put things in the past, and I agreed to forgive...I did manage to put things in the past, but I can't be friends with her...talk with her on a regular basis like we used to. So, I think she thinks that our friendship is back on good terms, unfortunately. I guess I wasn't clear enough while talking to her.

posted March 18, 2002 12:18 AM         

JEEPERS! How can you do anything with 104 temperture? The last time I had a fever that high I was so out of it, I couldn't do anything.

GO TO BED AND SLEEP!!!!

Love ya...and just in case, sending BLUE LITE your way to heal your throat...