posted November 04, 2002 06:22 PM         

For the past 10 years I have plane crash dreams. Nothing spectacular but always the same dream. Worst part is that a plane always crashes within 2 days. I've now become notorious at work as a witch (jokingly I hope. Are they some sort of premonition. Last one I had was different (the plane broke in two) and next day I saw on the news a resuce plane fighting fires in US break in two before crashing.

V spooky and I would love an explanation.

I have tried crystal therapy (from a practitioner) which seemed to work for a while but the dreams are back again.

Thanks for any help.

posted November 04, 2002 07:57 PM         

Well to answer your question I used my Tarot cards to help me.

Basically you have a gift of intuition reversed in the negative. Being psychic can be a great gift but it can also be a great curse. I believe that your higher self purposely picks up on this for some greater reason. I don't think it's a warning for you exactly, I think your very sensitive and it's a special gift of premonition.
-The tarot spoke about running away and trying to release yourself out of some fear (and I don't blame you.) But I guess you shouldn't worry, becuase it is only your keen sensitivity toward your surroundings.
If you do have some terrible fear of planes then it could have been a part of your past life that has come back to haunt you. That may be another reason why you have premonitions of plane crashings.

There is no way I can tell you if there ever going to stop. Thats up to you and only you!

-StarLover

posted November 05, 2002 05:18 PM         

I don't think I have any fear that I am consciously aware of except for wanting to provide for my frail, elderly dad and two kids(but a clairvoyant did once ask why I was afraid of dying and the one and only tarot reading I have had said I was psychic and did ask if I had bad dreams!).

I have no great fear of planes but confess to being fascinated by crashes due to an uncle who was the chief flight engineer for Aer Lingus and he explained many crashes to me. His love of planes was infectious and when things went wrong he tried very hard to understand how it could have happened.

However I am fascinated (and terrified of) Tsunami (tidal waves)ever since I saw a news film of one as a kid - but I never dream of them.

Finally, although I have never practised it or tried to cultivate it, I can "lucid dream" (i.e. I know I am dreaming and can control it and even nightmares don't frighten me because deep down I now they're not true and I am just dreaming. Quite a few times I have been able to fly where I want and look at things - although this doesn't happen often but it is great when it happens!!

Oh, one more thing. Last few plane crash dreams have been more accurate than usual. One one I knew why the plane crashed (i.e. broke in two and I can now also tell the colours of the planes). Concorde I knew because of the nose cone and I really cried when they told me at work that it had crashed outside Paris. Concorde was my dream plane because my uncle went to France to train on Concorde's engines when it was first built.

ps; Uncle died about 12 years ago in New York (his base).

Sorry to take up so much time.

Thanks again.

K

posted November 05, 2002 05:20 PM         

I don't think I have any fear that I am consciously aware of except for wanting to provide for my frail, elderly dad and two kids(but a clairvoyant did once ask why I was afraid of dying and the one and only tarot reading I have had said I was psychic and did ask if I had bad dreams!).

I have no great fear of planes but confess to being fascinated by crashes due to an uncle who was the chief flight engineer for Aer Lingus and he explained many crashes to me. His love of planes was infectious and when things went wrong he tried very hard to understand how it could have happened.

However I am fascinated (and terrified of) Tsunami (tidal waves)ever since I saw a news film of one as a kid - but I never dream of them.

Finally, although I have never practised it or tried to cultivate it, I can "lucid dream" (i.e. I know I am dreaming and can control it and even nightmares don't frighten me because deep down I now they're not true and I am just dreaming. Quite a few times I have been able to fly where I want and look at things - although this doesn't happen often but it is great when it happens!!

Oh, one more thing. Last few plane crash dreams have been more accurate than usual. One one I knew why the plane crashed (i.e. broke in two and I can now also tell the colours of the planes). Concorde I knew because of the nose cone and I really cried when they told me at work that it had crashed outside Paris. Concorde was my dream plane because my uncle went to France to train on Concorde's engines when it was first built.

ps; Uncle died about 12 years ago in New York (his base).

Sorry to take up so much time.

Thanks again.

K

posted November 05, 2002 06:23 PM         

I feel those crash dreams are associated with your Uncle. Did those dreams occur BEFORE or AFTER his death?
You must have been very close to your Uncle or admired him greatly for the connection between you two to be so strong involving the fascination of planes.
I too, have had many dreams of planes crashing. Mostly, in the dream, I was on the ground looking up toward the sky. In every dream involving planes, I would witness the crash from beginning to end. Rarely, I was onboard, except maybe once or twice as some invisible bystander.
It used to frighten me quite a bit, because I thought that those dreams meant that I would die in a plane as a premonition.
I slowly developed a phobia of planes even though I was still fascinated. Later, logic took control and reminded me that I was not personally ON the plane, just witnessed it.
As I studied the mind and how it functions through my Hypnosis training, I realized that images aren't a solid and TRUE representation of what the symbol is typically. It has to do with distortions of your inner world as in subconscious language and shifting of past experiences. Adjusting or rearranging a past thought or event, and in most cases, venting out those old thoughts that no longer serve you, or those you have resolved.
In sleep patterns, this is what takes place. Any inner turmoil can manifest itself in a strange way that has been attached to something you yourself have programed from a past thought or experience that got submerged into your subconscious.
I too am very intuitive. At the time of my crash dreams, my intuition heightened to it's peak. I honestly thought that EVERY dream was about something MORE than just elimination, or reflection of myself. I developed a phobia regarding planes after I drifted into a state similar to dreaming where I witnessed the Space Shuttle blowing up about a year prior to it actually blowing up. I was inside of it and witnessed three or four men inside as well as the woman who was a teacher who was also the first WOMAN to ever board the Space Shuttle. I saw EVERYTHING. Smooth sailing and then sudden shaking, crew members looking at each other nervously, intense noises of pieces being torn away, anxiety and screaming and then the final disaster. It was horrible. I was simply a WITNESS onboard.
It was like I was invisible and not REALLY there. A detached onlooker if you will.
A year later, when I heard the news, I was in shock. As I watched the reports, the investigators reported that the craft exploded so abruptly that no one KNEW they were headed for disaster. I just shook my head in disagreement because I knew the truth.
It took the investigators another two years of the final investigation to discover that the crew did in fact KNOW of the coming disaster. Course, I felt better knowing that the truth was set free. Anyway, after that I refused to fly for years, up until about a year ago, when I had an important business trip to take and couldn't refuse. I was plenty nervous and even took my determination further by flying right after the 9/11 incident. I used my hypnosis skills and made it through. Even ran into an old High School sweetheart from years ago who just so happened to be on the same flight.
Since then, I've flown about four or five other times without hesitation.

posted November 06, 2002 02:47 PM         

Many thanks for your reply. I to remember the shuttle disaster and Christa McAuliffe (the teacher) is engraved on my heart. This was an accident that was totally preventable.

I had a plane crash dream last night and fortunately told my dad this morning before I left for work (I always tell someone now because otherwise you fear you're going mad). My dadi is a total non-believer in anything psychic or mystical but in the year he has lived with me he has had to accept that there is something to my plane dreams.

Anyway I just got in from work and turned on the evening news to find that a Luxair plane has crashed. I said to my dad "I told you so" and he tried to comfort me by saying "Don't worry, lots of planes crash at this time of year" which is rubbish but I know well meant.

However, my plane had dark blue and red in it and I'm sure it was a jumbo jet of some kind. This plane was a twin engined plane, light blue and white. I am not convinced that was my plane but I guess time will tell.

Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated.

posted November 06, 2002 04:22 PM         

Your so welcome. I do admit that there is something quite unusual about your situation.
It only makes me want to dig deeper. Love those mysteries....

Your Dad, like a lot of people, fear the unknown and those mysteries surrounding it.
He sounds more linear in his thinking, which is okay. We need various types of personalities to conduct various types of duties. Sort of like being a specialist in your line of study. If we didn't have diversity, there would be no advancement.

posted November 06, 2002 08:01 PM         

-Have you ever tried talking to your uncle as if he was really there?

-Ok do this, every night before you go to bed pray to God then pray to your uncle. Tell your uncle that you miss him but you don't want to have dreams about planes anymore. Do this every night!

-If that doesn't work you could always try Nikola purple plates and put them under your pillow before you go to sleep.

posted November 07, 2002 05:27 PM         

I will talk and pray to him as you suggested and I feel this is the answer I have been seeking.

Incidentally, my crystal therapist gave me protection from psychic influence and dream protection. She also gave me a gounding stone (Black Obsidian) so maybe she knew what she was doing after all!

Many thanks to you all.

posted November 07, 2002 07:22 PM         

This will be my first time flying since. And I am having bad feelings. I can't tell if it is just anxiety or psychic "feeling". Since diagnosed with anxiety 5 years ago, I find it so hard to distinguish between real feelings and just anxiety.

I know it makes sense for me to be anxious because of my last experience. And that is probably all it is. I have been trying to meditate and get centered and I am finding it very difficult.

Any suggestions?

posted November 08, 2002 01:42 AM         

You definitely have developed a FEAR.
Fear comes from an actual experience of something negative such as the one you experienced three years ago. Since you are flying tomorrow, there isn't time to get the therapy you need to break this cycle, so for now, my suggestion to you would be to do a meditation of relaxation with deep, conscious breaths to CENTER yourself.
Clear your mind completely of any thoughts. Allow nothingness to take place. Feel the peace and sensations this brings. Know that you are ONE with the Universe and with God.
Feel completely safe in the love that knowledge brings. Create a sacred space around you of protection and love. Breathe in love, breathe out fear. KNOW you are protected Pisceszine. When you feel peace, observe your inner knowledge. What does it tell you?
Let go of your mental process and FEEL with your soul. If you don't feel an urge to cancel your flight, take the trip and know that your anxieties are creating this. Once on the plane, put yourself back in your previous meditative state and VISUALIZE that a mighty Angel or Angels are holding the plane, guiding it securely with love as you fly to your destination safely.
If you are one of those people who are more hands on, than mental, hold gently the arm rest of your seat and imagine that this secure post is the hand/arm of your guardian angel who will make sure that you are safe.

Notation:
Before the flight, PLEASE eat some chicken or preferably some sliced turkey as protein. Protein helps to stabilize your blood sugar, thus eliminating the excess exaggerated sensations you may otherwise feel. Low blood sugar levels increases sensations to the point of over-exaggerated effects on what you think and feel. It is similar to a delusional state. A big no no for you, so eat protein and you will be fine.
Take deep breaths on the plane and put yourself mentally in a safe place. A place where you find peace.
Let me know how it worked out when you return. See you soon.

posted November 08, 2002 05:33 PM         

VenusWP, you are full of good information! Thanks!

Starlover, as always right on target.

posted November 08, 2002 05:52 PM         

Do you ask to yourself what's the purpose of these dreams ?

I'm asking you about this,because I have something similar. Premonitions dreaming and lately wake up too.
Not about plane crash.

It's amazing what you said about the Tsunami. When I was a child,I lived in front of the sea and a lot of nights I woke up waiting for the big wave attack...
I wrote about this in this same forum about 40 days ago.

What's the purpose ? I always ask this to myself...

Jakie

posted November 09, 2002 09:58 AM         

I don't know what are the meaning of my dreams only that they are always relevant to current situations in my life, with the exception of the plane crashes which seem to be a premonition of some sorts. I never seem to have silly dreams that make no sense.

My Tsunami footage was of a giant tidal wave rearing up out of the sea off the coast of Japan, heading for the land. It must've been may years ago (I am 43) because it was black and white. I remember being awestruck at the total power of this thing and yet feeling totally helpless in that I couldn't stop it. I have been fascinated and fearful of Tsunami ever since although the chances of me ever seeing one where I live are virtually nil. I think I see them as the most destructive force on earth although I think Linda said in star signs that air is more destructive (i.e. air stirs up the tidal wave and causes hurricanes etc). Her theories in Love Signs rang true to me many years ago when I first read it and I have recently found her again.

Thinking about it, I feel helpless quite a lot of the time despite my front to the world that I am successful business woman, confident and assertive. It's almost as if my dreams allow the frightened child in me to come out when I relax but the rest of the time I am the every capable woman.

Maybe this doesn't make much sense but it is just how I feel, almost swept along on a wave so to speak.