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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 06, 2002 03:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message
again I've been dreaming all night and when I wake up I'm just remembering bits of dreams that I know were very long.

I was being chased again by a group of people. I don't remember why. I had to find a car to get away and there was a lot full of them but most of them were damaged or not working in some way. I was getting frustrated until I finally found one that would work. Hunter was with me and we jumped in the car and began driving to escape.

We drove down this dirt road and arrived at a small town that at first seemed threatening because it was very run down and dusty. The man that greeted us knew who we were although I never met him and he wanted to hide us from the people chasing us. He was very kind and he took us to a pier with a huge metal ship was docked. Apparently it was important to him and a place of reverance even though it wasn't operational and was half sunken. He told us to hide inside because no one would think to look there.

We did and the group chasing us did come to the town and were coming to the ship so the nice man had to take us elsewhere. I don't remember what exactly happened but next thing I know Hunter and I were walking with him and it was very very dark. At first we couldn't see anything.

He told me it was a different place and although the residents there could see normally I wouldn't be able to yet. Some things began coming into focus but it seemed like a very dark night in the new town. There were lights hanging from rafters over the village square where we were approaching but for me it was like small pinpricks of light. BUT the longer I walked around, slowly, I began to see better.

There was a young boy there - about 9 years old, I think. And he knew me and was very excited I was there. He was following me everywhere and hugging me and telling me it was amazing I was there.

I walked around as much as I dared without being able to see very well even though I felt very safe there. I was approaching a small street and I saw someone walking toward me but couldn't make them out until he was about 3 feet away. Finally I could see it was Marian and he was all dressed in black. He stopped and was looking at me intently. There were people around us trying to talk to him but they were calling him by another name but he ignored them because he was staring at me like he wanted to tell me something.

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oh, we're so full of light, don't let it die ..and i want to touch your astral body !!! and if i put pennies on your eyes or pyramids on your grave, mysteries mountain high ..the day i have to go but before i leave, i just want to feel love !!! i want to touch somebody else than me we are what we are...

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StarLover33
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posted November 06, 2002 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Ok first we need to know who Marian is?

-I have a feeling he's the important one out of the dream.

-As for the people chasing you, did you know them?

-StarLover

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 06, 2002 08:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I've been sitting here for the past 15 minutes trying to figure out how to answer the Marian question! All of my sig quotes are by Marian. I consider him a guru. I've only had 4 dreams of him in the past 13 years since I've been an Alphaville fan (Alphaville is his band) and they're all very odd. I might post the werewolf one next.

One of the other dreams I posted here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000036.html What made that dream more interesting is a couple months later he wrote a song about it.

Oh the people chasing me! It wasn't anyone I know from waking life but they seem to chase me around a lot in dreams trying to destroy me. It's getting annoying. I'm a threat to them somehow.

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oh, we're so full of light, don't let it die ..and i want to touch your astral body !!! and if i put pennies on your eyes or pyramids on your grave, mysteries mountain high ..the day i have to go but before i leave, i just want to feel love !!! i want to touch somebody else than me we are what we are...

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StarLover33
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posted November 06, 2002 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
This is tricky, maybe Ra will know the answer. Your very challenging, your one of those people who stretch the boundaries of intepretation. First I would have to know about your whole life to give you some insight as to what any of your dreams could truly mean. Perhaps in time!


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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 06, 2002 09:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message
LOL!

That's a nice way of saying I'm a pain in the butt!

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StarLover33
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posted November 06, 2002 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
LoL, I wrote some more to explain in that last post!

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 06, 2002 09:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I've always always had a hard time interpreting my own dreams. The dreams that I have that I could easily interpret I usually don't bother writing down.

Thank you for trying and thinking on it, though!

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posted November 06, 2002 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowWhite     Edit/Delete Message
you're an alien, Marian is an alien, you were taken to some alien realm and the people chasing you wanted to stop you from getting there.

what else is new? *wink*

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posted November 07, 2002 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Amber,

Perhaps this means that you want to escape from your current reality.
Do you feel like you need MORE adventure in your life and less responsibilities?
Do you feel that someone is too demanding of you? As in crowding you out, thus being chased?
In reading some of your other dreams, it seems as if someone is misleading you or trying to manipulate you.
Do you feel any of these sensations in your current state of mind?
If not, it could be a deep subconscious belief of something I would not have knowledge of. Only you yourself would know, because it was once a thought of yours that got logged in your belief system. I wouldn't know WHAT because I don't know you very well, and have not conducted sessions to figure out the complexity of the puzzle.
Understand though, that you are releasing some anxieties as well, which could be a part of the past and/or present.

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Ra
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posted November 07, 2002 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I have been debating politics the last couple of days and have not spent much time on these dreams, but I will have a closer look tonight. I have come to expect your dreams beginning with someone chasing you!

Do any of VWP's thoughts strike you?

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 07, 2002 11:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
VWP ~ I think I am always feeling repressed and smothered the past couple years. My husband doesn't want me to be ME.

Ra ~ debating politics? You poor thing...

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted November 08, 2002 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Amber,

Well, there you go! That is your answer.
Until you remove yourself from this present situation, you will continue to have these dreams. You are VENTING sweetheart.
Your dreams are allowing you to take off steam by venting. The scenario is based on your inner thoughts and feelings from your subconscious mind regarding your struggles.

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Ra
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posted November 08, 2002 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I began looking at this dream last night, but ended up in a major debate/discussion with a Christian preacher that I work with. Debates all week!

I will finish the dream when I get a chance (probably Monday), but wanted to briefly tell you about a dream I had yesterday after going to sleep thinking of yours.

There was a great deal more to it, but I will abbreviate. I was in my car, driving away from something, the military I think, when I came to a dirt road and proceeded to follow it. It was an old, rough, rarely used dirt road, but it seemed like a good place to escape to. I made it to the end, where there was an old town in the making (I know that does not make much sense). I got out of my car, and what I was seeing was a beautiful field surrounded by woods, I remember thinking how awesome and beautiful it was, and how the town that was going to be there (and was there in some strange way) was a very warm and inviting place. There were people milling about and working in the field, constructing. An older man approached me. I did not know him, but he knew me. He said, "it has been a long time since anyone has come here - we have been waiting for you!" He was a very jolly type of person.

He took me over to a small building which was not physically constructed yet , it was just kind of transparent, astral. There was a pretty young woman there and she had a mirror. She was looking into this mirror, and I was seeing both her and her reflection. The reflection began to change. She began to get ugly (the reflection) and yet she was still pretty. Then, the stereotypical image of a witch became apparent, pointed hat and all. Her reflection kept morphing back and forth between the witch and her pretty self. It was a bit un-nerving.

The next thing I knew, I was back outside, watching a GIGANTIC hawk in the sky. Next, my son and I were standing on the foot of this tremendous bird as it flew through the sky - and I was seeing this in the third person perspective, watching us just flying away on this thing.

Later that night the similarities between your dream and mine (and the differences!) dawned on me, and now I am trying to see what my subconscious was attempting to tell me!

If I get a break from debating all of these people, perhaps I will get a chance to think about it! There must be some transit or something affecting me!

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 09, 2002 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
so many similarites, Ra! From the road, to the town, to the older man (was yours wearing a hat?), to the people milling about, being chased, driving there, you had your son with you, too!

What did the witch look like? Of course, i'll wait patiently until Monday

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oh, we're so full of light, don't let it die ..and i want to touch your astral body !!! and if i put pennies on your eyes or pyramids on your grave, mysteries mountain high ..the day i have to go but before i leave, i just want to feel love !!! i want to touch somebody else than me we are what we are...

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posted November 09, 2002 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I bet that was some debate, Ra!

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted November 09, 2002 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Randall,

I'll say it was some debate!
The dream entailed driving away or escaping from the military. The association with Government and Politics. The poor thing was OVERLOADED!
Running away or escaping results from conscious pressure overload.

Hey Ra, take it easy will ya?

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posted November 10, 2002 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Hey between the two of you write a novel, make a film this sounds so interesting!
Also I think something very magical here is happening in the dreams section. Our dreams are really talking to us now!
Could the old town being rebuilt have something to do with Atlantis?
An old group and a new group the shift in race of man kind?
Sorry I'm intergrating both of your dreams here and maybe I'm taking it too literal but this is fascinating.

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posted November 11, 2002 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Amber - you did not mention the man wearing a hat in your dream, but yes, he wore one. When I first saw him, he was wearing an Indiana Jones type of hat and took it off as he neared me. He was a round, shortish man, jolly yet somehow serious - like a mix between Andy Rooney and Obi-Wan Kenobi (the old one).

The witch was a young brunette, smooth skin, perhaps a roundish face, a bit exotic looking - but not too much, with a relatively thin body (by my standards) but not too thin, and curvy. She was trying to determine who she wanted to be, and kind of showing off her "powers," which was not very becoming. She was a peculiar one.

Randall - a debate indeed! I have not gone head-to-head with a man of the cloth in quite some time. He eventually called me an atheist, at which point a number of innocent by-standers interceded in my behalf (most are Christians themselves!) and told him very quickly that I am nothing of the sort. He was rather taken aback by that, and later that night apologized - as did I. But it WAS fun!

VenusWP - actually, the military was symbolic of blind-following and disciplined order. But my recent conversations no doubt had an influence in that symbology!

Quinnie - interesting! I certainly have connections with the Old Continent, and I suspect Amber has connections with the shift you speak of ... hmmm. There is a degree of integration, you are right, for I was thinking of her dream when going to sleep that day.

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Ra
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posted November 11, 2002 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Okay Amber -

Being chased by this group could indicate some conflict or struggle you are having with some aspect of society, or with self. You find many different ways/paths/methods (cars) that could enable you to escape this conflict, but none are sufficient. Persistance or desperation finally yields success.

This method/vehicle that you have found leads you to unfamiliar territory by way of a path that is not trod by many (dirt road) and ends in a "place" that is old and not utilized much anymore. And there is someone here who knows you, offering help/guidance.

Here you are led to a place of transformation (metal), a place where unconscious forces - and perhaps emotions - (sea/water) are overtaking or meeting with the conscious (ship). This "place" is something spiritual/religious (reverence), perhaps a belief system that has been abandoned by society - for the most part - yet still revered by a few (Wicca?). But you cannot "hide" here for long. This belief system failing, you are guided further into the unconscious, into a place of magic and/or unawareness (darkness).

Who do you think the young boy is? He could symbolize a new energy developing within you, but I truly get the feeling that this could be someone you know, or knew, or were connected with. About nine years ago? Or around the age of nine? Just thoughts. How old is Hunter?

Now, about Marian. He symbolizes a connection with a greater mystery, a connection to magic/mystery that resides within your unconscious. Eyes are windows of the soul, and I feel he represents such a window. He is darkness within the darkness, a deeper step into the unknown, a window within that could provide focus in those areas of unawareness. He could even represent an opportunity of some kind - anything from spiritual to physical, I am not sure.

But I feel a dichotomy surrounding him (much as I do you) and I do not know "where" he is - in waking life - because he seems to be both light and dark. Curious.

In essence, the dream seems to symbolize systems that will fail, forcing you into unknown areas. But you will not be/are not alone. There will be/is guidance which could lead you to something ... more towards the core of you. Just be careful not to get lost in the dark!

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posted November 11, 2002 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 11, 2002 07:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Ra ~
Yes an Indiana Jones type hat! Well.. that's interesting!

At first I thought the witch might be me in your dream but I am not exotic at all! Well, I'm not a brunette, either, but Kian is.

Hunter is 3 1/2. The 9 year old.. I don't know who that could be. I'm guessing at the age, too... could have been an 8-10 year old. A lot of negative things happened to me at that age.

Your interpretation makes sense And what you said about Marian is really interesting. I wish I knew more about this dichotomy you see.

So what does your similar dream mean for you??

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posted November 11, 2002 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowWhite     Edit/Delete Message
My son is going to be 9 at the end of November, but I don't think it was him in Amber's dream.

RA! The witch was a young brunette, smooth skin, perhaps a roundish face, a bit exotic looking - but not too much, with a relatively thin body (by my standards) but not too thin, and curvy. She was trying to determine who she wanted to be, and kind of showing off her "powers," which was not very becoming. She was a peculiar one.

she um.... sounds alot like me... though I do try and not show off my powers. But the rest of it, from the description to her wanting to determine who she was sounds like me... dunno if this is good or bad LOL (and I am rather peculiar too)


The man in your and Amber's dreams was in mine last night. He was wearing that hat and a vest... he was a security guard in mine and was moving me around alot.

hrm....

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Ra
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posted November 12, 2002 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm ...

I seem to spend more time thinking about you guys than writing about you. But you give me much to think about! I will have to make time ... somehow!

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 25, 2002 02:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Ra ~
on the Alphaville website.. there was just an update.. dated November 25th. Marian posted a letter he wrote about the new album called Crazy Show to be released on December 16th.. this is what he says:

on December 16th the exploration-ship Alphaville will finally reach its harbour, its cargo will be unshipped and the crew is ready for the shore leave. And then - may the Show begin.
Marian Gold

SHIP! a SHIP! am I looking into this too much??

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Ra
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posted November 25, 2002 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
There is far too much synchronicity between you two!

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