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stella polaris
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posted November 23, 2002 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I was at my friend's house. We were upstairs, where she was breastfeeding her baby. Suddenly there are some noices in the other room and I run in to find three young men there (one tall, handsome with black curly hair), they are looking through some jewellery-like stuff on the top of a chest of drawers. I grab a pair of scissors and treaten them and shout very loud, in English for some reason, "F... off! Get the h..l out of here!" They run. I somehow connected these young men to be students at a nearby university. And my friend says there have been lots of situations like that in the neigbourhood, where people have closed the door, but not locked it. I go downstairs, where my friend's sons are back from school and cuddle on the sofa. They ignore me. Suddenly my friend's brother-in-law comes out from a grey blanket, he's been sleeping on the other sofa. He's a policeman (in real life). My friend tells him what I did.
I want to leave, but when I go out on the street my car is not where I thought I parked it. This makes me very confused, because I was pretty sure where I had parked it. The car in the dream is the old wreck we have, but that I normally don't drive (only if I have too). I start walking around, looking for my car and I think I see it a few times, but when I get close it's not the one. Sometimes in this scene I can't see clear, like I wasn't wearing glasses or contacts (which I do in real life). I go back to my friend and call my husband to pick me up. When he arrives and I go out on the street the car is outside the house of the neigbour. She looks a lot like me, tall and blonde. She and her husband and some workers are covering the car with cement. She wants to use it as a storage room. She's already placed some flowerpots on the top of the car. Suddenly my husband and I are in a forest. The cement-covered car is there. Next to it a guy my husband seems to know (he smiles and say hello) is building a house the shape of a Viking ship (he's only done the foundation shape). The neigbour woman comes towards us, smiling. She's dressed in Viking clothes and carries a basket. I get furious when I see her and go over like I'll kiss her (on the cheeks), but bite her cheek very hard instead.
At some point in the dream I had an e-mail from a friend in Holland. She wrote that she had heard I had cancer and was sorry about it. I got very irritated reading it because she had misunderstood: It's not ME who has cancer.
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Any inputs?
I'll just add that the other day I was reading for my kids about the Vikings and how the buried their vehicles and ships with a person when he died.
Thanks!

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Ra
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posted November 23, 2002 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Stella.

Curious dream. I do not have time to closely look at it now, it will be a couple of days.

A question: why were you so furious when you saw the neighbor woman?

Until later ....

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stella polaris
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posted November 24, 2002 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I was furious because she had taken my car and covered it with cement.
I'm looking forward to your inputs. I found a very simple explanation yesterday, but I'd love some comments anyhow.

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posted November 25, 2002 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Stella, I have completely run out of time today, but I do want to ask you a couple of things. I did what I could interpreting this one last night, but I do not like the results.

I would very much like to know the simple explanation you found, and if it really rings true to you.

Do you think this dream is about you? Have you been ignoring or disregarding some sort of sign that could indicate a medical problem? Do you have an intense fear of becoming very ill, to the point of perhaps not even acknowledging certain symtoms/signs?

I am hoping this dream is a reflection of your feelings/fears as relates to the dis-eases you are seeing in those close to you.

I will look further at the dream tonight.

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posted November 25, 2002 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Hi

Guys...I am beginning to be concerned with this.

Stella, do you remind that I asked you in the e-mail which was the reason for these dreams with this disease ?
Well , I decided to do a research on dreams related to diseases and I found something strange.
Now I was reading Ra's reply and I'm waiting to hear from you too.

These are "pieces" of what I found:

Physical objects in a dream represent the physical body. The most common symbols used to reflect the body are houses, buildings and cars. If your dream shows a physical structure damaged or in dis-repair the dream is concentrating on a physical health problem.

Colon cancer Symbols of cancer (above) shown in dirt, back garden or dead forest (trees have no leaves).

But I want to make mine Ra's words:

quote:
I am hoping this dream is a reflection of your feelings/fears as relates to the dis-eases you are seeing in those close to you.

love
Jakie


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posted November 25, 2002 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Stella

I remembered that you commented a while ago that you had a friend that died from cancer... won't it be for this reason that you are having these dreams ?

Maybe it is.

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stella polaris
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posted November 26, 2002 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Dear both of you. I've been thinking a lot about this dream and I still didn't find any good enough interpretation for all of it.
The e-mail stands clear to me - since my Dutch friend in real life doesn't speak very good English and I don't speak Dutch, there are sometimes misunderstandings between us. And I think this mail in the dream is just indicating misunderstanding the language of dreams...As for the young men intruding, they can be a symbol of young cancer cells. But as I sometimes just "pick up" dream symbols and place them in my dream, this could be the case even now. Maybe because I was puzzled by the other cancer dream and try to find out what that one means..As for the car I can add that we've said we'll just keep it out the year and then ditch it.
A few years ago my husband's father, brother and uncle, and a good friend of mine, all died of cancer, within a very short period of time. Also my husband's mother died, but not from cancer. Loosing "everybody" in a very short time was very hard and made a big change in our life. Now we've "recovered", that time of hardship has lead to a much better life now. But there's a constant fear in me that something "bad" will happen again.
For some reason I feel confident I'll never have cancer, but I fear for my husband, as he obviously has it in his genes, and still smokes a lot (his relatives died from lung cancer). Actually, lately, he's been making arrangment for an extra insurance in case something will happen to him, and as he's been so concerned about this it passed my mind that he could have a health problem and not telling me.
I must add, I'm very clever worrying about the people I love...

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stella polaris
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posted November 26, 2002 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I sat down and meditated on the dream today, since I can't let it go. And here's my "answer": (Though I'd still like your comments, Ra!) I believe the dream represents my worries about my dad. When I had this dream my Cancer dad had a serious streptokokkinfection in an operation wound in his leg. I knew he had an infection, but not that it was streptokokkinfection and that serious - it was only yesterday that the antibiotics seemed to have done their job (and that I learned about it).
I think me being in my breastfeeding friend's house symbolizes me being in the house of the "one who's fed me" or my family. I was feeling very uneasy and not at home because things are not the way they should be. The young men searching for the jewellery might represent the bacteries trying to steel the jewel of the family (my dad). "The door being closed, but not shut" might represent the wound - that had been stitched, but that had not healed. The sleepy policeman refering to the sleeping routines of the hospital, that allowed this infection to enter. The kids on the sofa might be my kids (they are the same age), showing they can take care of eachother while I go home. I think the old car represent our economic situation, in real life I really wish we could afford a new car. I want to go home (to Norway), but I don't find the car - that might indicate that I search for money to travel. The car being transformed to a storage room indicates that I spend my money building a storage room (which is sort of true in real life). So I call in my husband for help. And he also sees that one has started to build a grave for the Viking king. (In real life my dad's biggest love is his sailboat, if he had lived in the age of the Vikings he would have been buried with his ship). My husband being there in the dream shows that he shares my real life worry. I'm not sure about me biting that woman, but maybe I'm biting myself - either with worries or because I spent the money wrongly.

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posted November 26, 2002 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Stella, as you know, dream symbology usually relates familiar objects/ideas/people/etc. to something happening within ourselves. The interpretations you give make perfect sense, but I notice that very few of them have to do with self - they seem to be about everyone else. Sometimes this IS the case, but not often, and there are symbols here that make me think this is more about you.

You said, "And I think this mail in the dream is just indicating misunderstanding". I agree, but do you not think it is possible that the misunderstanding is on your part? In the dream you relate, "Sometimes in this scene I can't see clear, like I wasn't wearing glasses or contacts..." - you can guess how I read this. You also bite the woman's (you) cheek/face very hard, and then get the "misunderstanding" e-mail - is this a signal that you fear to "face" something, and perhaps the misunderstanding is subconsciously deliberate - ie, some sort of denial? Keep in mind that, in dreams, anger often represents fear.

Before I continue, please meditate on this a bit more. Am I just completely wrong?

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stella polaris
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posted November 28, 2002 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, when you put an angel on your answer, that's when I really start worry! You are right about what you say, this is about me, and what the dream was telling me was that my father's illness (in his legs=downstairs) affect/infect me, too..The thing is, I've been abroad for almost a third of my life, but I still keep strong ties to my hometown, it's my inheritance, a part of me. If my dad should die, then this part of me, a part of my (Viking) identity would die to. There would hardly be any reason to go there any more, as the rest of my close family lives somewhere else. So I'm fighting off the thiefs that tries to steal a part of me/my soul/my identity. In Norwegian there is this expression about "the place you were breastfed", meaning "where you grew up". Upstairs in this dream also symbolizes "up there" - Norway. I still think my car search was about getting the means for transport. What I didn't see clearly was if the situation is so serious that I should go or not. I think I got angry with myself because in real life I'd really blame myself if my dad was about to die and I didn't go there to see him...
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Something else..I've really been feeling low on energy the last week. I had this same experience with my friend who had cancer - it was like she borrowed energy from me to fight her illness. I don't know if that's possible, if my dad has been borrowing some energy from me..Or that I've just been feeling weak in sympathy with him.

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