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pidaua
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posted November 27, 2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hello,


I was wondering if someone could lend me a hand in the interpertation of my dreams. Monday night I had the following dream:

I was alone walking through a beautiful field that overlooked the mountains. I had decided to lay down, on my side, to take in the sights. I then noticed a large, black Jaguar stalking towards me. I wasn't afraid, but I was so in awe with his beauty (for some reason I knew it was male). His coat had a healthy sheen that seemed to glow while his eyes held the most alluring color of green.

He communicated to me with his mind and said "Be not afraid, you now who I am. I would like to lay down next to you and share your company". He laid down and I could feel the warmth coming from him, he was magnificant in length. I put my hand on his fur and was amazed by how soft he was. He then rested his head on my hip and began to communicate;

"The time will come when you can enjoy all that you have earned. I spent my youth hunting down prey and fighting for territory, it is now that I am able to allow the fruit to come to me and relish in what I have accomplished. Remember that as you go into the world. You will accomplish so much more than you can imagine".

We spent the rest of the day laying in the field, admiring the view and silently enjoying eachothers company. I woke up feeling so warm, it was almost like I could still feel him next to me.

Last night I had another dream. This time it involved a horse. I walked into a large house and observed a gorgeous black horse drinking water. I laughed and said "hey, you've made a mess of yourself". He looked at me and laughed with me. Then I asked him to walk with me to the kitchen and I would cut an apple for him. We walked over to the counter, all the while he was nudging me playfully with his muzzle. As I was cutting up the apple, he transformed into a man.

He said "I am not used to these arms and you may have to help with that apple". I turned to see a man that could have easily been an angel or a Roman god. He was tall, with golden brown hair and refined features. He skin held a glow over rippling muscles. I put the slice of apple into his mouth and giggled. He then took me by the hand and led me around the old house that my mother had in Laguna. We went through the rooms and I could see past memories played out in front of me. He said "It is time you let yourself cherish your memories and move onto new love in your life. It is okay to hold on, as long as you don't let it hold you back".

He smiled and took my face in his hands and bent his head down to kiss me. Then he said he must go and be free and once again he transformed. This time back into the horse that galloped off and disappeared.

Then there was a flash and a note left for me. It said that the current Governor of CA, Gray Davis would be implicated in a scandal to which no one has ever imagined to be possible. It will lead to his total downfall and major problems for the state. (I have no idea why that was even in the dream).


I have long felt a kinship with horses. I guess you can call the horse my type of spiritual guide. The jaguar is another guide that I call on when I know I have to sit back and not "show my cards" and instead keep the knowledge within and not give it to my competitors.

So any advice or comments? I would appreciate anything.

Thanks,

Pidaua

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Ra
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posted November 27, 2002 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome pidaua!

Oh, I am sure we can come up with something! It may be a couple of days until I can get back, though.

Anyone wish to comment?

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted November 29, 2002 05:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I think these dreams interesting!! I love the Jaguar one!

I'll see if I can come up with something for this one today

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oh, we're ascending and we'll never die cause when we kiss, red rose, we're changing 6 to 9 ...it's revolution time when 6 turns into 9

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Ra
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posted November 29, 2002 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
When I first saw this, I thought "ah, another animal dream." But this is not just another animal dream! I do not have time to comment now, but really there is not much to comment on or interpret. I think maybe you just want some confirmation, or to share this? It is awesome! The messages are literal, there is no symbolism in the communications from these entities.

These are more than just messages from self, they are of a much higher nature, bordering on the divine!

You are fortunate to have such a connection with these powerful forces, pidaua!

I would love to hear any others you may have!

Oh, and California - I will be keeping an eye on that! Perhaps this was included to add some sort of merit to the messages/messengers? Very cool.

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pidaua
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posted December 02, 2002 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for your responses.

I have had these type of dreams on and off my whole life. For a long time I ignored them because I was afraid and also because no one seemed to understand or believe me. I would dream about how to design certain reports or advertisement. What projects to work on, reading certain books and even taking tests. I would use dreams to meet with my friends and go to different places.


When I first dreamed about the riots in LA after the Rodney King verdict, my friends thought I was nuts. So, once again, I stopped sharing the dreams and tried to ignore them.

When I had a dream about the planes hitting towers a week before 9-11, I told a few people. I thought it was fear about a flight I was taking, but when I reached my destination I knew that my dream was pointing to something else. When it happened, I was in Phoenix waiting to take a flight back to Baltimore. I know that there were many people that dreamed about the events before they occured. Like we were all tied into some cosmic hotline that wanted to let us know that something was about to happen.

I really enjoyed the dreams about the horse and the jaguar. I felt so comfortable and at peace. I'll be keeping on eye on my homestate of CA as well. I am hoping it was just a fluke and there was nothing to it, but one never knows!!

Have a good one...and Blessings!!!

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Ra
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posted December 02, 2002 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I believe you.

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pidaua
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posted December 10, 2002 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ra. That means alot to me.

Hope all is well.

By the way, does it ever become so draining on you to be called on so much? How do you keep yourself from burning out?

Shawnee

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posted December 10, 2002 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pidaua,
What amazing dreams...just had to comment.
The first thing I noticed with both your dreams is that in the first with the jaguar the guidance came from a BEAUTIFUL BLACK BEAST OF PREY - THE HUNTER and in the second dream with the horse the guidance came from a BEAUTIFUL BLACK BEAST OF FREEDOM - THE HUNTED (also unfortunately the burdened...might indicate an aspect of you feels the same...but you love them, hence the transformation into the handsome man).
The hunter told you that throughout his life of chasing his desired, the most rewarding time was now that he was resting and allowing all good things for him to COME to HIM.
The hunted/desired (the horse)showed you your vulnerabilities when he said he needed your help to eat what he desired - the apple (not like the jaguar who goes after what he desires)...this horse represents your love of freedom....and the transformation into the god-like image shows how much you desire this freedom...not sure what is restricting you in your psyche but the horse is telling you to release it. The jaguar said the same thing....I think you are a very powerful and independent person, much like they are and maybe there is something/someone in your life holding you back. You want to do something to change this and might be troubled at not resolving it the way that you were always used to.

I admire how you enjoyed touching both of them...how you enjoyed two different beings the same way...and they are both telling you the same thing.

What an amazing gift you have!

Love
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pidaua
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posted December 11, 2002 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Good Afternoon Mystique,

Thank you for your response and your interpretation. In light of the recent circumstances that developed after my dream, I would agree that you are right in your analysis.

I have been so burdened by someone that I have been involved with over the last 1.5 years. We work together and we had also formed a strong bond in the form of a friendship / relationship. I ended up putting so much into the relationship without receiving anything in return, that it began to feel like an anchor tied to my foot in a rough ocean. In a way, I felt that if I helped him (by doing most everything) that he would realize his potential. Little did I know that he was not only tight with his money (hell he wouldn't even so much as buy me drink when we went out), but he also was never going to provide anything emotionally. He always has one crisis after another, to the point where I could not keep up and felt that the stress was going to just defeat me.

Last week brought us together to work professionally and pulled those rose colored glasses right off my face. Again, another crisis surfaced in his life and he showed his true colors. His pattern is to get close, pull away and then start a fight so that he can blame it on me.

This time I let him go. Yes it hurt, but the freedom is worth it. He used the friendship card and said if I was truely a friend then I would not give up. Well, maybe that is true, but I will not keep a friend that continuely uses me for his own gain.

I feel so much better now. As though the handcuffs are gone and the world has gotten so much brighter. I am free to feel and enjoy life, because life has so much to offer.

The whole time this was going on, I kept seeing the Jaguar and the Horse in my dream. I could feel their presence and the warmth they left in my heart. I know that it means better things are on the horizon.

I feel truely blessed and thankful that I saw what needed to be seen.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me. They really touched on what was happening.

Blessings,

Shawnee

With Pluto conjuncting my venus and sun while Saturn has been opposing both, I have learned so many lessons and had to let go of certain friendships that were pulling me down.

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Ra
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posted December 11, 2002 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message

Mystique, that was great!

It seems I failed to come back and comment - I apologize, pidaua. But Mystique did a superb job!

Pidaua, I love what I do here, and I do what I can. I regret not being able to elaborate more on these things, but there is a limit - so that I do not burn out. Instead of a draining, this is a source of energy.

And I appreciate so much all of the fantastic efforts put forth by others here - they always come through when I begin to get too busy!

Walk in Peace

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stella polaris
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posted December 11, 2002 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Pidaua...I was really fascinated by your dream, I found it so beautiful. As for what you write about that man...You have Neptun in 3rd so maybe that makes you put on rose-coloured glasses when you talk/communicate and the same when you think? With men/lovers, I mean. Neptun's squaring Mars, lovers/men. In the 6th house, work...

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pidaua
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posted December 11, 2002 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Stella,

That makes sense about the Neptune in the 3rd squaring Mars in the 6th and my problem with communicating with men I work with, as far as romance is concerned. On a complete business level I seem to have no problems, but once my emotions are involved, I end up being loyal to a fault and trying to protect the person as much as possible.

I am sure that the Neptune transit in my 5th house isn't helping matters at all. It makes me wonder if there was some planetary influence over the last couple of weeks that somehow shook me from that dream state?

What do you think?

Shawnee

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posted December 11, 2002 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
I am really happy for you Shawnee....and besides now you know for sure you are truly strong no matter what with God's Spirit appearing as a Jaguar and a Horse, your horizon looks bright indeed.
When your friend said "if you were truly a friend you would not give up"...well you did not give up....you listened to the voice of the Horse....."its okay to hold on to the love as long as it does not hold you back"...and unfortunately he did not reciprocate the love you fed him so it became a burden for you...holding you back. You have to be true to your soul and that is why these guides appeared to you, to show you that you have outgrown this relationship as it is now.
In time this guy will realize what he had, don't worry about that...and I believe his soul knows that it is because of your love for him that you are leaving now. If it is meant to be between you two in the future it will, when he is ready, otherwise you keep soaring girl....you will be fine

Ra, thank you for the fireworks


Love
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pidaua
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posted December 12, 2002 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Mystique!!!

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Mystique
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posted December 12, 2002 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
You're welcome Shawnee!

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pidaua
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posted July 24, 2003 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmm, okay, now that Gray Davis is implicated in a huge battle based on the scandel, I thought about this dream from back in December.

Seems like it was telling me something. It does seem kind of odd though that I would dream about the governor of state that I no longer live in.

Okay, just wanted to bring it up.

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Ra
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posted July 25, 2003 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Well, coincidence knocks again. I saw the news of the Governor just a couple of hours ago and thought about this dream ... and here it is!

I have yet to gather the nature of his problems, but I am keeping an eye on it!

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anafaery
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posted July 27, 2003 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anafaery     Edit/Delete Message
wow pidaua... this is amazing. can i say i am jealous tee hee! i would love to have a horse guide, or a cat guide, its not bad jealously though, dont worry. you deserve to be as special as you are and the gifts that come with it

thank you for sharing this, i have been slightly interested in this davis thing too albeit peripherally... as i am a long way away from california. i do take a passing interest in american goings on though, i love watching cable news.

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pidaua
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posted July 28, 2003 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Ra,

Yeah, the news made me think about the dream and even my mom called me up to remind me of it. We'll see what happens, I think we are going to find some major mismanagement of money and possibly some pay offs (but that is just my guess).

Anafeary,

Thank you for the compliment. It's pretty cool to have guides, sometimes I do have dreams without them.

Last night I was thinking about the Kobe case and for some reason I had the most awful dream, but in it I was the girl. In the dream he had giving me a gift, like some kind of trinket, then he thought that my gratitude meant that I was interested. So he kept pushing himself on me and well, I don't want to get into the details. It was awful, like he just couldn't stop. I woke up drenched with sweat and near tears.

Sometimes I do dream about some everyday things, but happen in real life. Like before the miners in PA were trapped I had a dream I was underground with dirt on me trying to get out. I was stuck and had to wait with other people for help. It was pitch black and so cold. I think it is more of sort of an impression caused by some cosmic wave. LOL

At any rate, I am very thankful for the gift even if it kind of freaks me out at times.

Blessings!

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anafaery
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posted July 29, 2003 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anafaery     Edit/Delete Message
wow pidaua. that really is quite the gift. i imagine its a bit of a burden too. im sorry you dream such awful things like the kobe dream its obvious you can handle it, you seem very strong.

take care

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pidaua
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posted December 23, 2007 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Nephthys
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posted December 26, 2007 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pidaua,

Just curious why you bumped this?

I loved it! I got goosebumps all over! So amazing that you communicated with these animal/spirit guides who gave you detailed news about your present/future state.

They sound so majestic, especially the jaguar!

I don't think it's coincidence that you dreamed about Grey Davis beforehand, then his scandel. I think you are psychic!

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pidaua
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posted December 28, 2007 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Nephthys,

I bumped it because of my latest dream (it's a bit lower on the thread list). My two guides are the jaguar (blk panther) and horse. It's been awhile since I saw them, especially having them in the same dream, so I posted it and bumped this one up.

The other dream may give you chills too. I can't help but wonder if I may have been picking up on the tragedy at the zoo.

I'd love your take on it

pidaua

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posted December 28, 2007 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Pidaua, Went there and replied.

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