posted January 20, 2003 04:23 PM         

Love
Jakie

posted January 21, 2003 01:52 PM         

And Mystique is right, major transition. But I do think it is personal and internal. When I first read the dream I thought, "well, this one is easy". But in true Randall-dream fashion, there is more to it than what I first saw, and I could spend pages trying to correlate the symbology on the various levels that are possibly presented. Instead, I will try to keep it relatively short and sweet - if possible! But first I have to finish unraveling it.

posted January 26, 2003 12:38 PM         

Very quickly ... there were two towers being evacuated. A white, spiral staircase diagonally descending from each towards each other to a middle area at the bottom. The ground was vividly green grass, and there was a clear, calm lake in front of them/us. The sky was vividly blue and clear ... the day was just a beautiful day!

When I reached the bottom, I began talking to some people gathered there about what was happening. I was telling them that the bomb had gone off quite a distance from where we were, and that the radiation would not reach this far. Then, we looked up. In the distance there was an explosion high in the air, a mushroom cloud, and a sense of dread overcame us all. We knew it was now only a matter of time. Then a WWII type bomber flew from the direction of the blast, over us, and away. U.S. military planes were srambling to pursue it, dropping us supplies on the way out. Most of the supplies consisted of toilets that they were dropping into the lake (very symbolic) and a large modular shelter as well. Standing inside the shelter, examining it, I remember thinking, "what a crock of sh**".

posted January 26, 2003 12:44 PM         

The surface level of this dream, very simply put, could indicate that perhaps there has been some change in a cyclic activity (shift in orbit) that threatens to challenge you in various ways (avoiding objects).

But there is so much more in the symbolism, which to me points to another, more energy-driven level - the energies behind the surface happenings.

But this will have to wait!

posted January 28, 2003 01:32 PM         

A change/shift in your world, your physical path (Earth). A cyclic change, perhaps of a karmic nature. This shift brings you in closer contact with divine forces (Sun), or the divine aspect of Self. Also suggested is immortality (Sun) touching/destroying/changing physicality (Earth). Masculine forces (Sun) contacting or changing the feminine forces (Earth). The resulting changes (wind) present both external obstacles/challenges (objects being thrown about) and internal (craters). The general destruction could indicate psychological confliction, perhaps the ending of some aspect of self, some attitude, perspective, emotion, or view-point that is changing/ending, brought about by spiritual, psychic, or high-mental energies (fire). Fire is also a symbol of transformation and immortality.

If you are indeed going to find shelter within a cave, this is perfect! A cave symbolizes the unconscious, which you would be forced to enter into, as the very processes alluded to would mandate. Metaphysically, the cave is symbolic of a place within the head wherein one may find a connection with soul-force or the higher Self. Besides that, the cave is also a place of transformation and initiation, a place of secret-learning, enlightenment, and rebirth.

There are so many symbols here with multiple levels of meaning and interchangeability! And so many polarities!

And it could be that all of this is about the person who was actually driving, and you were guiding - not personal, as Mystique said. Or it could be about the relationship between the two of you. Or it could be totally about you! You choose!

posted January 30, 2003 06:19 AM         

It seems to me that both you and Ra are tapping into happenings on the other side of the world. Randall, your dream is indeed a descriptive observation of the Australian bushfires. And Ra is explaining the effects on the people.

The druids also took the liberty of a lexigram!

'YET ANOTHER RANDALL SHORTIE'

ANOTHER SHORT SORTIE
INTO THE ETHERS.
THE EARTH HEART IS HERE
HE ENTERS ONTO THE HINTERLAND
IT IS A TALENTED AND HONEST RAID
SO HE SHALL TELL ITS LATEST STORY
IT HINTS AT HOT HEAT AND NO RAIN
SO THE TREES ARE TINDER DRY

RANDALL AND RA SEE THIS
THEY SEE THE STORY IN SHORT
THO THEIR HEARTS ARE TORN
HER HEART IS ALSO SORE
SHE HAS SEEN ALL THEIR TEARS

IT IS A HOT DESERT, OH, SO HOT
THE SAND DOES ATTEST TO THIS
YET AT NITE IT IS NOT HOT
IT IS A HELL ON EARTH.

THE TAR-SEALED STREET IS ALSO SO HOT,
AS TO SEAR THE SHOE SOLE.
ALL NEED TO STAY INSIDE

YET THE OLD ONES LEARNED TO STAND IT
AND SHARED THE LAND
THE AIR IS TOO STILL AND EERIE
THERE ARE OTHER RITES AT THIS SITE
AS OLD AS THE OLDEST TALES TOLD
IT TIES INTO THE EARTH HEART
DO THEY LISTEN TO THE TREES?
YES IT TELLS IT ALL YET HIDES A LOT

THEIR NEEDS ARE THE SAME HERE
IT IS A NASTY SNARE IN SHORT.
IT IS NOTED THAT IT IS IN THE TINIES
INTEREST AND DESIRE AND IN THEIR
TALENTS TO SHARE, THAT THIS IS TOLD
TO LET OTHERS SEE THE OLD STORY.
THEY TEND TO TELL IT AS IT IS.

AND TO THIS END I SHARE THE HISTORY
SO AS TO SEE AND SORT IT LATER
THEREIN LIES THEIR LATEST TEST
IT IS THEIR HORROR STORY TOO
THEY ALL DO NOT REALISE THIS.
THEY DESTROY AND LOOT
THEN TEARY EYED THEY RANT ON.
DO THEY LISTEN TO THE OLD ONES
THAT HEARD THE TONES
AND LISTENED TO THE NOTES?
ON THESE OLD HEADS ARE EARS TO HEAR
AND THEIR HEARTS ARE SORE STRAINED
AS THEY TRIED SO HARD TO TELL OTHERS.
AND THE ELDERS - THEY HEAR THE TONES,
THAT HEREIN THEY DO START ANOTHER STORY
IN THIS HARSH LAND’S HISTORY,

TO OTHERS, IT IS ONLY ANOTHER DAY
IN ALL THIS TOIL AND TOLL AND TEARS.

YET THERE IS AN ANTIDOTE
AND IN THE END THEY SHALL LISTEN INTO
THEIR ELDERS TALES THAT RETAIN
THE HISTORY IN RELATION TO THEIR ISLAND
AND ITS SAD END INTO THE SEA
YES, IN THE END THEY SHALL SEE
THAT THIS IS ALL RELATED TO ATLANTIS
AND THEY ALL NEED TO RETRAIN
THEIR IDEAS TO SEE THE IDEAL
AND NOT THE IDOLS.

AH YES. RANDALL AND RA DO SEE THIS
IN THEIR THIRD EYES AND AS RELATED
HERE, RA ALSO TELLS HIS STORY
IN RELATION TO THESE RELATIONS.

ITS ANNALS AND THEIRS IS RETAINED
IN THE STARRY DATA ARRAYED.
READ INTO THE LETTERS
IT IS NOT LOST TO ANYONE AT ALL.
IT IS A RED LETTER DAY, IS IT NOT?
IT IS INTENT ON AN OLD DATE
THEY DO HEAD INTO AN INTENSE OLD EON.

AND SO DO THEE SEE THIS AS A REHASH
TO OLD TRIALS AND DENY IT. OR
THROO THE TINIES LITTLE EYES AND EARS
ARE THEE ALERT TO THE THREAT
AND HEED THIS IN THESE NOTES.
LISTEN INTO THE HEART RATE,
IT IS IN THEE TO HEAR HER.
IS THERE A DESIRE TO HEAL HER TEARS ALSO?
THERE IS!
I INHALE THE AIR AT LAST
HERE ENDETH THIS SHORTENED TRAIL,
TO THE REAL TRIALS THAT MAY LIE AHEAD.

imajre

posted January 30, 2003 06:18 PM         

Anyway, I completly agree with Ra, it's wiser to suggest that the dream is symbolic to Randall's life. However, I noticed a syncronized link between Randall and Ra's dream on this forum. I suggest that this is much deeper and even more meaningful as a whole.
Randall, if you know it or not, I believe that by writing what you dreamt, it has opened up a huge can of worms that now involves more people then just you.

...This is very strange indeed.

Ps. Randall, if it matters, January is the time when the Earth is closest to the Sun.

posted January 30, 2003 07:12 PM         

But, then again, it's only a dream!

posted February 01, 2003 11:24 AM         

Even so Ra, do you think that is why I sensed his dream was not personal...even though I said not cataclysmic but this unfortuanately is and this morning's tragedy is going to affect all of us in some way.
As I re-read Randall's dream I associate it more and more with the shuttle's explosion!

Randall you posted this dream 2 days after the shuttle launch date on 16th January....what do you guys think? Even Imajre's lexi connects this all.

Just my thoughts right now!

Love to all