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Quinnie
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posted January 26, 2003 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
This is quite a long post of a dream but I really need to share it because it was so vivid and I had to write it down when I got up this morning.
Okay alot of what I have been reading is linking inot my mind, I've been reading lots of new stuff baout Atlantis and Lemuria, but the thing is that I always used to get deja vu moments in school when I was a kid. Our playground was at the bottom of grassy banks, all around us was grass the school goes down in steps like it has depths where maybe water has been there before and in my dreams as a child I dreamt of this. Plus as kids we used to play ship alot at school and hurricanes.
(I know it sounds silly but maybe we were re-inacting something with each other)
Anyway at my home, my childhood home there is a field out the back, all our streets are called after willows adn dales and brooks, suggesting that our streets were exactly that, pastures of green land and rivers.
I had dreams also about being in the field out my back when I was a kid and the water suddenly flushing into the field and swallowing everything up. Different dreams of this, when sometimes it was an ocean and I tried to save people.
I know this could represent something very emotional in my childhood but I don't think I can totally disconect it from a past life.
My sister has also dreamed similar dreams about the field becoming water.
I also remember going out on a school nature trip to the same field and standing beside a big oak tree and really feeing a presence with the oak tree like I knew it and we were old friends and I felt very emotional.
In recent years I discovered that the word 'Druid' means 'knowing the Oak tree'
Wow when I read this I was just amazed!
Also there had been rumours in circulation in my childhood that rituals had been performed in the same field by a ring of people this kind of ritual seems to keep coming up for me as I read and discover about things that others have experienced regarding this kind of ceremony and belief.

Anyway my most recent fream was last night it seems to be saying more but I don't know if it's just linking up all that I've been reading or recalling something or both...

It goes like this. In the street where I used to live (childhood) many many years ago a family of people lived together. Generations of one family. I was various members of this family, a sister who was deeply inlove with her partner and I was their little daughter and also the other sister.
The main people ( the two lovers ) were represented by Ben Afleck and Penelopi Cruz. So I'll just use their names for character sake. Now these two were so much inlove and very expressive of their love, very ardent. But they were also adventurous and they had heard of a civilisation beyond the field that they wished to become part of. So they made the decision to leave and the family would come with them but leave them at a cetain point where they would start a new life while the others moved on.
Now the filed they had to cross was a marshland. The land looked solid but u could sink into it and it was dangerous. Arounf it though at one side of the field was water, seas that rose like fountains, feet higher than the trees that are in their place now. The seas would rise as they came nearer. At one point a portion of the sea rose up like a cloud of water and someone told me that it was just evaporating and expalined to me why and how this was done, because it was water, particles defying gravity as such and rising to the air.
The only way the lovers could get across the marshland and onto the other side was to ( for some reason) be naked, and wrap themselves into each other making love while they rolled across it.
They did this and the family followed ( i don't know how the rest of the family did this)
Anyway the got to the civilised alnd and ended up in a village public house much like the pubs of now and maybe further back into the early 1900's.
Penelope went to the toilet ( as one does) and while she was gone, I became the sister in my dream. Ben put his hand on her ass! But this was generally accepted by their family because it would be the traditional case that if one sister died then the man could then marry the other sister and this was therefore a form of affection.
Anyway thats where it ended.
Only I remember that it was to the end of the drema when I realised that the way they communicated to each other was through music, a song. Each one would communicate by trying to get each other's attention through the form of telepathy where they would transmit part of their song and the person who could hear this song as something in harmony with their song of communication would turn to that person, they would lock into each others eyes and play this ,music together in a completed unison song of communication.

Anyway I know this dream all links in what I have been reading and thinking in my mind and I know it could represent things in my life but could it also represent a past life or lives beginning to come together and showing me a pattern of influence spanning from then to my present life or am I reading too much into it and getting carried away.
What do u think any insights would be soo appreciated.

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Randall
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posted January 27, 2003 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Wish I could help.

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posted January 27, 2003 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message

There certainly could be aspects of a past-life here, perhaps mixed in with some other symbolism. I will have a closer look when I can.

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Quinnie
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posted January 27, 2003 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Randall and Ra!

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posted January 28, 2003 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I tried, but dream interpretations are not my thing.

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stella polaris
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posted January 28, 2003 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Quinnie! I've been thinking so much about what you wrote, but on Sunday my keyboard broke and I haven't been able to go to town and buy a new one untill NOW!
The first thing that struck me was another dream you posted here, where you wrote that you would wake up with a song in your head. I think that is so incredible! The way you describe it in this dream makes me think of persons who are in total harmony with eachother, in tune with each other. I believe the dream has a lot to do with what you've been reading lately, or rather, the thoughts that have been set off by what you've been reading. In a way, you're Penelope and Ben, setting off on a spiritual journey. The two lovers can represent the male and female side of your personality. Think about the names: Penelope - in many languages this name is almost synonymous with patience, because of Penelope of the Odysse and her patient waiting for Odyssevs. Also, Penelope was weaving during day and undoing her work at night - think about that symbolism. Cruz=cruise=journey over water. Or Cruz can be associated with cruzade. (These are my associations, the name might mean something totally different to you!). With Ben Affleck I don't associate anything, but him being the prototype of a tall and handsome man..."They had heard about a civilisation that they wanted to become a part of"...I think this is your spiritual goal, a place where you'd love to go. "Civilisation" is connected to a place of knowledge, of wisdom. I think there is absolutly no coincidence that it's your childhood field that you now have to cross. Maybe in a former life you really have experienced a flood there or been a part of druid rituals. Now the field, the marshland, might represent something you're a bit scared of or need to explore. It's a barrier, something you need to cross. But you don't seem afraid to do this! Making love might indicate that the male and female you need to be united, or that you have to become a whole person to cross. The public house might indicate that you got to a place where there are many other people, I don't really know. Public=open for all=you're welcome? Also about Penelope going to the toilet..maybe you needed to and then sent her off in you dream to be able to continue the dream a bit longer? I don't know how to fit your family either, maybe that you want to be a part of a spiritual family?
The sister thing..you wrote something about your sister in the other dream, too? Is she older or younger than you? Do you have "roles" where she goes first and you follow? Because in this dream you're Penelope's sister, sort of pushing her in front of you.
And about the oak tree...It's fantastic. I really believe that feeling you had as a child when getting close to it had something to do with past life memory. Maybe that's why you choose to be reborn in that place? The more I read and hear about these things, the more convinced I am about how former lives memories get to the surface, especially when we are children. I read about this seven months old little boy who had never seen a real car in his life and then got a toy car and just started driving it while he made this driving sound.."brrr..". Instinct. How come one newborn baby might get hysterical in water while another loves it? Or that we all know that fire is dangerous? Even if the flood memory and trying to save someone reflects events in your childhood, there is a reason that just these symbols occur.

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Quinnie
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posted January 28, 2003 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Stella Polaris i totally agree with you. I believe that the synbols in the dream all relate to the present but that the past/present and future fus in together, so it would be totally ignorant to just dismiss the past in favour of the present ets, to get a better completeness of the dreams you need to intergrate them all!
Hey I just remembered about posting you in the auras thread about the blind woman who could see things in her mind's eyes even though she never seen those things physically before and that was yet another example to me of past life subconscious coming to her vision.
I think everyhting that you say is right.
My sister in the dream is older then I am but I think that the roles we play are very dependant on each otheras you said, we both 'follow' each other's lead alot and I have always saw this as soemthing that needs to be freed, from itself, break from family?
Another part of the dream I forgot was when penelope told me ( I don't know who I was, I was just myself, but her mind?), she told me that when she was 15 the devil had posessed her and that when she told her family the words that came out of her mouth and the voice was that of the devil.
Well this links into when I was 15 I was alot of trouble to my family at this age and I was a different person to them, so this could signify that period of my life that I have moved on from and has given me the incentive to become 'civilised'.
I think that perahps there was the times when if a person struggled woth their emotions and became rebellious that people would have said they were possessed by the devil but now, in our age we see it in a new light.
I honestly believe I lived here before and I KNOW I remember alot of it, and the emotions I felt about things were so over-powering that being unable to say ' i was here before , I know this etc..... my dreams tell me this.. ' was something I feared because it's such a taboo and my family and alot of people think this kind of talk is nonsense.
The thing is that the ceremonies that I believe I experienced in a past-life are very traumatic and I feel that as a child I was remembering the emotions, so i went a little wild with it. The people I met in this journey thoguh were people who were experiencing soemthing similar in this present life and so i could start to look at it through them.
I don't know if this makes any sense to you but I feel that I'm still recovering alot from this kind of past-life and thats why my dreams are so vivid.

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posted January 28, 2003 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I know what you mean, in a way the dreams are connecting it all, past and present (I have difficulties grasping the idea that I have lived in the future). And it's so wonderful finally to be able to discuss all this with someone. Like you say, it's very much a taboo. It's not something you talk about. And just being able to share this stuff here is so liberating, I'm finding my way.
I also believe past lives are "haunting" me. I have Mars buried in the 12th house, and I'm pretty sure my last life was violent. I believe health problems I have today are connected to my violent past. And now I'm afraid of violence.
Once you accept that you have lived before it all starts falling into place.

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Quinnie
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posted January 28, 2003 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
It does surely begin to fall into place.
I think thats why if we're here we should not hold back on threads about anything, because you can be sure someone else is experiencing it too!
I think perhaps your future existance is a deja vu thing, sometimes you can get glimpses and dreams of where you wanna go and what u wanna do as if u're already there. If we repeat our life patterns also, in a way u can predict your future unless something major happens that u can break cycles and make changes.
The only thing that you can have difficulty with is seeing the things in the future like for example,transport, housing and dress etc. because that can change with each waking moment, same as the past only we've got museums etc. to know the difference.
But if say the future is the past then, the same applies that what we see in past lives is what we will see in future lives unless we can make the changes in the power of the present moment.

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posted January 29, 2003 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Stella polaris do u remember any of the violence fromy our past life? What sign is your mars in?

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posted January 29, 2003 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I have Mars in Cancer and my 12th house cusp in Cancer, too. I have a heavy T-square in my chart with retro Saturn/south node squaring both Moon and Venus/Neptun. My Moon, the ruler of my 12th house, is in Taurus, and all my health problems sit in the neck. I've been trying through dreams to get a past life memory of what happened. Once, last spring, in a dream, I got this tremendous feeling of guilt, it was very strong and I've never felt that bad about anything my whole (present)life. I just know this was connected to something I've done in another life, probably the life just before this one. I've been thinking so much about this again lately. I really believe that what we are interested in, are passionate about and are attracted to is connected to earlier lives. In my early teens I was totally absorbed in books by Hemingway, Miller, Nin, Fitzgerald, stories from the 1920s, 30s and 40s, from Paris, and from the war. This Greene book I mentioned in another thread I first read when I was 18. I don't know how many times I've read Hemingway's The Garden of Eden, the landscape descriptions there absolutly rings a bell with me...I was determined to go to Paris to live there, and when I finally did, when I was 21, I learned French in three months...Another thing, when I started to work as a journalist, it was just dead easy for me. I believe talents are just experiences gathered from former lives. Another thing that I've been thinking about is how I've never been particularly interested in clothes, fashion, dressing up, make-up etc. First day at school all the girls came in neat dresses and with plaids in their hair, I came in jeans and a sweater and my hair to all sides...and it didn't bother me at all. And finally, I don't have a very good relationship with my Mum (which should be obvious from that t-square!). Maybe she was a daughter I left to follow a career in a past life? I'm trying to put all this together, and other things as well...but I can really picture myself living in Paris in the 30s and maybe working as a war correspondent. And slitting the throat of someone. Of course, these are my rational thoughts, being awake, trying to make the parts of the puzzle fit. I guess I'll get an answer at some point in a dream.

OK, I told you mine, now tell me yours! Where where you?

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posted January 29, 2003 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
I have jupiter in virgo cojunct Saturn in Libra in the 12th house.
My 12th house cusp is Virgo and mercury is conjunct Uranus in Scorpio 2nd house.
I have LOADS of past-life flashes. I dream alot about the world War 2 and when I went to Holland at 18 and saw Anne Frank's house and the houses just like it I knew I had lived there previously. I also remember being in Japan maybe, not sure but in another war, it was a very beautiful place and we were taken through a passage in a garden to safety.
I had a past life on the high lands of Scotland, and also survived a storm and flood because I lived high up on a mountain.
I was most definitly a Celt, probably an Irish Celt and I remember and have re-lived through others presently a past-life some of which here on this post that I've described as child of a Druid, but the experiences there are horrific, sexual abuse and child sacrifice, I'm still trying to peice together this one because it also seems to glide into Lemuria for some reason, I keep thinking about it having a very Irish feel, but I don't know if it's Irish or Druidic or what!
I have been a monk in a monastary, an underground monastary. I had a dream that I was there near an altar and there were lots of candles but it must have been a deja vu moment for me then because I remember thinking this is a dream I'm not supposed to be here now and I think I was a differnt sex and it scared me because I was about 9 when I dreamt it and seemed to be quite conscious at the time. I also had a little boy appear to me, like a street Urchin, he appeared at my bedside and I think perhaps it was me in another life.
Anyway there are load to think of.i hope I haev bombarded you with all this stuff butit's all coming back to me.
Oh yes and I remember being in a room in France, I saw the shutters like the french windows so thats how i guessed I was there.

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posted January 29, 2003 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
You don't bombard me at all, I find it extremly interesting. How do you know all this? I mean, do you just get flashes out of no where or do you meditate or dream?
When you read history and all the horrible things that have been done (and is done), and you know that all these people will be reborn...I guess it's almost impossible not to have a violent past. The thing is, how to deal with it now, to stop the karmic pattern of victim/revenge...This is why I search, this is what I want to know. I have this old fear, which I got remined of today when my husband threw me a white blanket and it landed on my head and I just felt the panick starting to rise...Maybe someone strangled me with a white pillow or I was buried in a avalanche..when my babies where newborn I would wake up in the night and desperatly start searching for them in the sheets, convinced they had been entwined and was suffocating...A boyfriend and I once played pillow war and he put the pillow over my face and I got hysterical..and I'm not like that, even he got scared. So maybe this is something that happened in one life, and then the next I cut the throat of that person and in this life I stop breathing in my sleep...So it's time to stop.

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posted January 29, 2003 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
I have dreams about it and flashes, when I go somewhere and have the feelings I don't ignore it.
As you say with the pillow fights etc. those things that u fear research them.
You can stop the pattern like anything else by talking about it and getting it out in the open and dealing with it.
I think for some it will affect others as if it still happens like there is no time between each lifetime and so you still feel the emotions of the past.
Mars in cancer..Did u say that the violence had something to do with your mother?
And your south node whats happening with that?

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posted January 30, 2003 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I guess your Mercur/Uranus conjuction in Scorpio helps, too. And the Saturn/Jupiter in 12th fits very well with your past lives memories.
No, I don't have a violent mother or home, and I don't believe my Mars has anything to to with direct violence or abuse from a mother in past lives either (the one before this). I think it has more to do with being deprived/depriving myself of a home and a family because of war. I've had this flash where once I saw the house where I died last time, the way it stands today (I could recognize it anytime), and in another flash I saw a woman (me) sweeping the balcony there. I had a strong feeling she was all alone, no family. And she was dressed in black, like a widow. This fits well with my present natal chart and why I choose it: It stresses creativity, establishment, growth, and has lots of family in it. It's like I got a chance to live in peace and built up something that war would prevent.
Breaking a pattern by getting it out in the open and dealing with it sounds wonderful...but it's not very easy always..But I really find it useful to discuss the stuff here because it gives me inputs and new ideas...
I'm curious: With the violence in your past, did you experience any violence in this life?
Have you read Cayce?

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posted January 30, 2003 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Well I don't know if it would be violence but there is alcoholism in my family and as I said before I went a bit nuts right about the age of 15 so I was in therapy MOST of my teenage years. Durign that time I met friends who experienced all kinds of abuse and we shared our experiences together in group therapy also and this I believe clarified things to me that I had dreams of and also opened up more for me as to what it was all about.
So in this way I think I intentionally came here to resolve past Karma through intense therapy...I have Sun conjunct Pluto so that kind of says it all really.
yes I have read Edgar Cayces story of Jesus and at the same time began to read Rudolph Steiner's Apocalypse of St John so I think reading the two together really helped me to make sense of them both together rather than seperately.

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posted January 30, 2003 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't read the Edgar Cayce Jesus story or anything written by him, only accounts of his readings. Many mansions, The Edgar Cayce Story on Reincarnation by Gina Cerminara. It's a fantastic book, it really gives wonderful insight to how karma works and how you can break a bad circle.

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