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Topic: A dream with Ra, Stella, Mystique &...
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Jaqueline
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From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil
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posted January 28, 2003 04:38 PM
 
First I was in the top of a hill and below there was only the sea. As if it was a cliff. I was seating with other people in that place looking at the huge ocean.
We are all wearing white clothes, and our faces has a peace expression. In this part I got to see myself and my hair is flying because of the wind, and my eyes are contemplating the infinite... In the other scene I was in the sea, swiming, very similar to a dream that I had a while ago with the sea, only that this time was day, in the other was night... the sea was very turbulent, Mystique was at my left side and Stella on my right side. We were swiming and I noticed that my daughter was with me...I was concerned that she drowned and I stopped swiming, in that moment Stella looked at me and said, "She is well, don't worry and continue swiming." Her words calmed me and I continued swiming. In the other scene, some years had passed and I was alone at my home, a beautiful house, very big with an huge garden. The telephone rang and when I answered it was Ra asking me to pick up him somewhere. I caught my car, a beautiful convertible Mercedez  , and I arrived at another house, very close to mine.
With him there were other people, including a four year old boy (Jake) .
When I arrived, Ra looked at me and through a telepathic communication he asked me if I could take him away from that place. Then I answered, through telepathy also, "You were so close. Why didn't you call me before? "
He didn't answer... We entered in my car, Ra, the boy ( Jake ) and two men that I didn't get to see the face. Neither he nor I were comfortable with those men's presence but I understood that there was not another solution... if we wanted to leave that place, the men would have to go with us. While I drove, I looked at the back seat and I saw Jake looking at me... He smiled at me...then, I stoped the car in front of my house and I woke up. I had this dream about 9 days ago...Ra, I'll really appreciate if I could have your interpretation on this one  Love
Jakie "We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another."
Jonathan Swift
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Ra
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posted January 29, 2003 01:30 PM
Interesting. At the moment I am at a loss. I will definately have to take time to sort this one out. I would normally go at this from a completely symbolic standpoint, but with you ... it is hard to say!Stella, Mystique, what do you think? Or anyone else for that matter!  IP: Logged |
stella polaris
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posted January 29, 2003 02:08 PM
I've mailed Jakie my inputs..She wants second opinion!IP: Logged |
Jaqueline
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posted January 29, 2003 04:39 PM
Ra, take your time ...I'm not going anywhere... Hi Stella  Love
Jakie "There was no "before" the beginning of our universe, because once upon a time there was no time."
John D. Barrow
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Mystique
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posted January 29, 2003 08:25 PM
Hi guysRa, I sent Jakie my interpretations last week...I believe she wants your expertise here too..or any other knowflake  
Love
Mystique
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Ra
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posted January 30, 2003 01:53 PM
Oh, I see. Well, I have some ideas about the first couple of scenes, but I will have to think further about the ones with me in them. I am out of time today, so hopefully I will get to this tomorrow. IP: Logged |
Jaqueline
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posted January 30, 2003 11:29 PM
Ra, I wanted to know your interpretation on this dream because, as a symbol or not, you are part of that dream...The most difficult part for me, was to make the visual connection between all of you...
I am an extremely visual person, and I dreamed about three people that I never saw...
Mystique I didn't see, I just felt ... Stella, I saw, in spite of not knowing her, but it was just a very tenuous visual contact... yet Ra, I saw perfectly, as well as Jake...
As I said before, take your time, 'cause I'm not going anywhere...not now Love
Jakie It's amazing how you can speak right to my heart
Without saying a word, you can light up the dark
Try as I may, I can never explain
What I hear when you don't say a thing
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Ra
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posted January 31, 2003 07:09 PM
Okay, I have a start.The first scene feels rather like a perspective from a higher aspect of self. It seems as if this part of you is contemplating some aspect of the collective unconscious (sea). The next scene suggests that you are becoming aware of unconscious material (swimming in sea, daytime), probably "sent" to you by the higher you of the first scene. Here, you encounter difficult emotional content as a result. I think your daughter represents yourself at that age, the age where much of this emotional conflict originates. But you have help negotiating these troubled waters. The connection you have with both Stella and Mystique is powerful, steeped in shared experience from lives past. It is the energy symbolized and catalyzed by this connection that you are able to access and depend upon, to be encouraged and empowered by, that will assist you in your continuing journey through the seas of consciousness which you find yourself in. I also feel that this scene could have been taken from the memory of an actual past-life experience where these physical actions of swimming through the sea may have occured. The use of this memory by your higher self to convey a message about your "now" is quite effective, really. (if that is what it is) That is as far as I have gone with this dream so far. I will have to work on the rest later. Actually, I am awaiting some sort of inspiration. I am curious about one thing. What did I look like, and Jake? Not that I expect a description of how I really look, but I am curious as to how I was perceived. It's amazing how you can speak right to my heart
Without saying a word, you can light up the dark
Try as I may, I can never explain
What I hear when you don't say a thing I love that!
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Jaqueline
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posted February 01, 2003 03:20 PM
Thanks Ra  I will comment about your interpretation tomorrow...
What did you and Jake look like ?... you were Indian...from India I mean...  Love
Jakie It's amazing how you can speak right to my heart
Without saying a word, you can light up the dark
Try as I may, I can never explain
What I hear when you don't say a thing
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Mystique
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posted February 02, 2003 11:32 AM
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Jaqueline
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posted February 03, 2003 03:36 PM
Thanks Ra Yes, with certainty this dream may represent a message of my higher self in connection with my current situation...the situation of my life at this moment...and the help that I am receiving from my friends in this path...  Or it can be a memory of a past life...why not ? Yet, why am I always having dreams with the sea ? 
...I have to find out... Thanks again dear  Love
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Ra
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posted February 05, 2003 01:46 PM
I am having great difficulty with the parts of the dream that include me. As with the previous portions with Stella and Mystique, I feel that these parts are also a combination of symbolic expression and past life connection. I do not know how you view me, however, so there is difficulty for me to determine what I symbolize. Something tells me that perhaps I represent the unconscious, or perhaps a connection with unconscious energies, a sort of bridge between these and conscious awareness. What do you think? And what does India mean/symbolize to you?Working on this assumption, perhaps it is suggested that unconscious material/energy is calling upon you for help in escaping the confines of it's darkness. It would seem that you are now well equipped to handle it (convertible=freedom, Mercedes=success), and need not go far to contact/"rescue"/free it, as you are realizing how close this material/energy has always been. It is interesting that we speak telepathically, as telepathic communication is also a meaning for the telephone. With this double symbology, it is suggested that you have - or are able to have - a very strong connection and communication with the unconscious realm of Self. These other men who entered the car could represent those unconscious energies/materials that are as yet unknown, perhaps uncomfortable, but which will become conscious, although I feel this is only partially the meaning ... there is something else?  Jake could represent the beginning of the manifestation of these forces which you have courageously chosen to "bring home". As for the past-life connection, there is no doubt in my mind that this exists. Do you think we perhaps share India? Perhaps in some life you helped me to escape a place I wanted not to be? Unrelated to the dream, I have always associated you with Atlantis, and an experience shared in those times. What do you think? I can sense that there is more to this dream, but I simply cannot get the information to formulate. The whole of the dream feels like the manifestation of some sort of cyclic activity, karmic activity - past lives and energies coming full circle in some way. Unconscious material becoming conscious, old ties renewing, and no doubt lessons learning. Perhaps more of the meaning will come to me at some point, because I will no doubt be thinking about it!  IP: Logged |
Jaqueline
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From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil
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posted February 06, 2003 09:37 AM
Ra, I'll try to give you some answers...I do not know how you view me, however, so there is difficulty for me to determine what I symbolize.
I see in you a person that has a great faith... I don't speak about religion, but faith.
A person that wants to learn . A good man... spiritualized... somebody that wants to help other people, and also has a lot of affection for all... Something tells me that perhaps I represent the unconscious, or perhaps a connection with unconscious energies, a sort of bridge between these and conscious awareness.What do you think?
Yes...it could be this... And what does India mean/symbolize to you?
India, for me, means a place of great spirituality, a place that I intend to know and I also believe that nobody came from India the same... It is interesting that we speak telepathically, as telepathic communication is also a meaning for the telephone. With this double symbology, it is suggested that you have - or are able to have - a very strong connection and communication with the unconscious realm of Self.
What exactly do you mean with "realm of Self " ? I think I understood, yet, I just want make sure that I did ... These other men who entered the car could represent those unconscious energies/materials that are as yet unknown, perhaps uncomfortable, but which will become conscious, although I feel this is only partially the meaning ... there is something else?
I don't know...I'm sorry to give you so much trouble to analyze this dream ...  Jake could represent the beginning of the manifestation of these forces which you have courageously chosen to "bring home".
I agree one hundred percent...Jake means the beginning of something...and following this line of thoughts, yes, he could represent exactly what you've said ! Do you think we perhaps share India? Perhaps in some life you helped me to escape a place I wanted not to be?
Here, I think we may look to the future, not to the past...What do YOU think ? Unrelated to the dream, I have always associated you with Atlantis, and an experience shared in those times. What do you think ?
After all that I've just learned about my Nodes, I have no doubt that I was in Atlantis...and there is also the lexi thing...did you see the lexi with my name ? Many past lives related to the sea...maybe you should take a look...Do you feel that we met in Atlantis ? The whole of the dream feels like the manifestation of some sort of cyclic activity, karmic activity - past lives and energies coming full circle in some way. Unconscious material becoming conscious, old ties renewing, and no doubt lessons learning.
I could not agree more... as, if the hour of some revelation was arriving... the conscience of the unconscious is being wakened up... a transition point for a transformation... Ra, I know that you are in a moment of wait... Jake is arriving... therefore, don't worry in analyzing this dream now... it will continue here and I promise that if Randall will make his cleaning in the forum  , I won't let that this dream goes to the garbage... on the right time you will have the insight... Love
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Jaqueline
Knowflake Posts: 1088
From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil
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posted February 06, 2003 09:47 AM
These are the lexis ... quote:
from RubyRedRamTALL ANNIE
LEFT ENGLAND on QUEEN OF OCEAN
with ANTIQUE CEILING
ANGELIC ANNIE her
PIGTAIL NEAT AN CLEAN no LICE
INITIAL PANIC
LET ANNIE NAP
INJECT ICE IN ANTIQUE QUEEN
PLACING QUEEN on TILT
ANNIE PANIC
NAP ANGEL ANNIE, NAP
JET QUITE
TILTING QUEEN
LEANING IN ICE
CAPTAIN AGAPE
LEAPING IN ICE Its not finished because when I saw that Miracle found Titanic I got too excited...Does anyone know much about the titanic??? I've seen the Movie. Wasnt the ship nickanmed Heart of the Ocean? Maybe thats what I was trying to say by Queen of the ocean......who knows.....wow
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from MiracleAN ANTIQUE TIN CAN
IN ATLANTIC,
A TIN CAN CAN LUNGE
(IN) A GIANT ICE:
TITANIC PLUNGEd.
ICE CAN INJECT PANIC...
PANIC = ICING. Jacqueline, mix this with RubyRedRam's and think deeply about it. It does not need to be a direct connection with the ship, but perhaps a conotation or a consequence? I also saw in your name: JACQUELINE - A NEAT ANTIQUE NICK!
PITTIGLIANI - A TAIL - AN ITALIAN TAIL!
A TAIL CLING-ING,
CAN'T LET JACQUELINE IN PEACE. JACQUELINE - A JILL, A QUEEN.
A QUEEN ALL IN LACE,
& LACE LINEN & A LACE QUILT,
& A PATIENT INTELLECT. A LUNATIC EAGLE,
JACQUELINE CAN UNITE,
ENTICING A GIANT LEAP,
JACQUELINE CAN TIE UP,
INITIATING A QUAINT AGE. And now for the most confusing bit - or maybe not for you, dear Jacquie? AN INTELLIGENCE AGENT,
A CIA AGENT,
CAN TIE UP A CLEAN CUT.
A CUT = PAIN.
??? IN PAIN?
PAIN = A PATIENT.
PATIENCE.
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from HopefulJakie - I seemed to be receiving mostly past life messages - hope this makes some sense... I LIE IN A CAGE IN
A QUEEN's PALACE -
I, A QUEEN'S PET,
AC-CEPT ThE CAGE...
AN ICE QUEEN CAN
IGNITE PAIN. A GALLANT GENT IN
A CAPE CAN QUIET
AN ICE QUEEN - A
GALLANT GENT CAN
GLANCE AT A QUEEN's
PET - I GAPE AT ThE
GENT UNTIL CAUGhT. ThE ICE QUEEN UNCLIP's
ThE GENT's TUNIC...I
ANGLE A GLANCE. I LEAP
AT ThE CAGE IN ANGEr -
I TIP IT - I QUAIL IN PAIN.
*******
I LIE oN A PALLET -
I ENTICE A CAPTAIN -
I GENTLIE PULL AT
ThE CAPTAIN'S PANT LEG. ThE CAPTAIN LIEs oN
ThE PALLET - PULLs UP
A QUILT...I QUAIL AGAIN.
*******
IN AN AGE of PLAGUE, I
QUELL AN UNCLE. AT A
PLEA, I PLACE A GUN IN
IN AN UNCLE's GLANCE...
I PULL. I QUAIL AGAIN.
*******
I, A TALL GAL, I PREEN
N PRANCE IN AN AGE of
GENTILITIE - I, A GENTLE
GAL, I TELL A TALE...A
TALL TALE! I PANIC - I
LIE - I PLAN AN ATTACk.
I QUAIL AGAIN.
*******
AN ITALIAN GAL IN LACE,
I LIE IN GLEE - I AGE -
I CLING tO A LIE. AGAIN,
I QUAIL.
*******
I GLEAN A CLEAN PLATE -
AN ANGELIC PEN PAL
QUELL's ThE PAIN - I
LEAP N PRANCE IN ELAN.
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