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sisterchasingmoon
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posted February 10, 2003 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sisterchasingmoon     Edit/Delete Message

Hi Everyone,
I have been reading about OBE'S. From what I can tell, you must first set aside any fear, and you must believe. I have done both.
I have had a problem with insomnia for some time now. As of lately, every nite when I crawl in bed, in my mind I say to myself that I am not afraid, and mentally prepare myself.
I havent had ny luck as to date, but I have not had any problems going to sleep since I started doing this. So now that I have cured my insomnia problem, anyone have any words of advice on how to achieve the astral experience?
Love & Light,
Melissa

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stella polaris
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posted February 11, 2003 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I'm trying for OBEs myself, and for a while it went quite good, then it stopped up. I found out that when I was reading about other people's OBEs it sort of scared me, I don't know why, so I stopped reading and just concentrated on my own experience. I believe it's crucial to start with your dreams. First: To remember them in details, and then to be aware that you are dreaming (lucid dreaming). Ra was saying somwhere that the body has to be asleep and the mind awake - which is what's happening in lucid dreams. I've experienced going out of my body, but not beeing able to stay out, and also suddenly being aware that I'm out, but without being awake during the whole journey. I use to wake up at night, and find this a good time to try for OBE since I'm so relaxed. But I must admit that often I just fall asleep again...I lie on my back and picture myself floating upwards, but now Ijust read about someone who try to "fall" out of the body...Well, talking, thinking and discussing it helps focusing on it and maybe...there you are out travelling...

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted February 13, 2003 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sisterchasingmoon     Edit/Delete Message
Stella,
Thanks for the reply. Sorry it has taken me so long to get back with you. Im not sure whats going on lately but it seems as if everything around me is unbalanced. From the da*n car to my personality. I have searched your posts and it seems that I have the same thirst for OBE's as did/do you.
I had been doing what you thought might help when I awaken in the night however the last few nights I have been drinking herbal tea beore I go to sleep. It is for the insomnia that I have. It has been working so good that I havent been able to wake up ! Darn it !! Not sure which I prefer at the present time....giggle...giggle gosh I will get it right soon... I hope
I will continue to follow this topic and soon I hope to be able to share my experience with you !
Love & Light,
Melissa

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paganannie
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posted February 14, 2003 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paganannie     Edit/Delete Message
I have been on this path for many many years! Controlled OBE"s I mean. Ever since I read Robert Monroe's books. And here's where I have got to.
When I was very very much younger, at a party after consuming a little too much alcohol(which could be 2 beers for me) I ended up sitting down sitting on the floor and a whooshing sound filling my ears. Then the music in the room began to get farther and farther away. Someone was beside me asking me if I was ok. I grabbed their hand and told them "Im leaving my body, I dont want to go" I felt like I was being sucked out by a vaccuum. The person beside me talked me through it and eventually the experience faided.
My next experience was more pleasant. I was at a native friendship drumming circle. It was amazing. If you have never experienced a drumming circle you should try to.
Anyway as the beat went into a trancelike rythm, I was gone. I was out in pitch blackness. I dont know how long for. When I came back into my body I was still banging my drum which suprised me. I looked around at everyone as I was so sure they must have seen me go!
The next one was while asleep. Changing from a dream to an OBE. I was with ? a soulmate, a guide? I dont know. But we flew through the cosmos and I will never forget it. Nor can I describe it in words.
All this time I was still doing all practises to have a controlled OBE. I followed Eckinkar and had success with that to the point I got the buzzing all through my body, felt really neat. But couldnt move out.
The last experience was I decided I would not give up. I was going to have an OBE no matter how long it took.
I lay meditating, relaxing my body must have been for a couple of hours. Dozed off, woke up stayed there.
Then I felt something was different. I knew someone was in the room. I felt different.
I felt someone hold my legs and move them off the bed. I remember thinking if this was my physical body I would be 1/2 floating in mid air, with just my shoulders on the bed.
I knew someone/spirit was trying to help me.
I made a big effort to push myself upwards.
I went upwards alright, quickly and spun around and ended up face down on the floor.
Whatever happened it pulled me right back into my body. Then I realized I'd been out!
I know there are guides waiting to help you if you can get to a certain stage.
I will let you know if it progresses for me.
And anyone else who is practising we should share experiences.

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stella polaris
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posted February 14, 2003 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Hi paganannie!
Thanks for sharing your experiences in this field. It would be great if we could get a good OBE thread, and if everyone who has some advice, inputs or experience would put it here. Also advice about books, like those by Robert Monroe, good links etc.

Here's one link: www.jonasridgeway.com

I've posted my experiences in different threads here before, but here they are again:

When I was a child, I would lie awake for quite long before I fall asleep, and I very often got this feeling of my body expanding, like there was one light body floating around my physical body. Though I never had any OBEs that I remember, I believe now what I felt was myself leaving my physical body.
I got interested in OBEs when I got to this forum this autumn. Discussing here has made me much more aware of my dreams, and I believe that's why it went quite easy for me when I decided to try for an OBE now recently. When I went to bed I'd repeat to myself "I want an OBE, please let me have an OBE..". The first night something happened I could feel how I was leaving my body, or rather "struggling" to leave my body, it felt a bit like getting out of a too tight dress (I believe Superman feels like this when he undresses). I could hear distant music and voices. And then nothing, before I suddenly found myself in the hall of our house. A short while before we had had burglars, and I was doing something now to prevent that form happening again. Then my husband (who was at night shift, sleeping at that moment) came in through the door, wearing the same clothes as he wore when he went to work. He told me (telepathic) to go back to bed, he'd look after us so nothing would happen. .. My next experience was some weeks later, then I really felt I left my body with a cracking sound, got about a meter up, before I fell down again...Very frustrating!
I've had many flying experiences which I now believe are OBEs, absolutly not ordinary dreams. While in normal dreams I am physically me, in these experiences I'm non-physical. The speed is incredible. And the landscape that I fly above exists, I'm sure I could recognize it if I ever went there. Recently I was flying over Afghanistan, we'd been talking about Afghanistan and my aunt who works there the evening before, so I believe that's why I just went there to take a look for myself. Unlike the other flying dreams, I now took a lift with a jet, a military plane, on recognisition, I was there just behind the pilot's shoulder - wonder if he felt me? over this desertlike landscape in very warm colours and those high mountains..it was beautiful.
For the last weeks, i haven't had any success when trying for OBEs. Don't know whya, really. Maybe it's like with everything you learn, that for long periods it feels like you learn nothing, and then suddenly you discover you're on the next level.

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paganannie
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posted February 14, 2003 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paganannie     Edit/Delete Message
stella:
thinking of you (out of body) standing behind a pilot! makes me feel very eerie.. but I like it.
I wonder how many souls are actually out there wondering around and I wonder why in all the books Ive read it's very rare for someone to meet up with someone else unless they plan it,someone else from this earth plane I mean. Perhaps our concept of time does strange things once we are out which would explain that.
In fact now Ive said that I think it must.
It feels good to be on the frontiers of this kind of exploration though!

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stella polaris
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posted February 16, 2003 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
paganannie, you know, I don't know what words I'd use describing that I was behind the pilot..no legs to stand on! Have you seen the first Harry Potter film, that game they play where they have to catch that spinning little thing? In the flying dream it feels like I'm that thing...
I would love to meet up with other people! But most of all I'd love to go back and see what my last life was like...
Sister: Maybe it's good to have insomnia? Because you're suppose to be awake...

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Apple Core
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posted February 17, 2003 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple Core     Edit/Delete Message
I think overexertion (sp?) and thirst/hunger are supposed to help with OBE. I read that the mind tries to compensate in order to relieve certain stresses by pushing you toward what you want, even though your body is asleep. I don't know how well that works since all my OBEs have always been out of my control anyway. I started them at the ripe old age of 13-14 and some of them have kept me from sleep for a few hours trying to prevent them from happening! I think this is the overexertion (sp?) that makes them stronger. I especially like the work by Robert Bruce on this subject. The most interesting part of my experiences has been wandering around outside of my house, walking through doors, and having the extra spirit limbs to account for.

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted February 18, 2003 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sisterchasingmoon     Edit/Delete Message
Paganannie,
Gosh so great to hear from you ! I am very serious about this. Every nite this is what I think about as I am trying to sleep. I have started picturing myself leaving my body hoping this will help. So far nothing.
I have heard from my sister and bestfriend that the experiences they have both had have been very scarey and they are not willing to do this agian. At least not at present time. My best friend said that when her astral self saw her own body it distrubed her so much that she wanted to physically harm herself ! Strange ! My sister just said that seeing herself in a death like state was not comforting to her.
Hearing these stories makes me want to try all that much harder.
Thank you for sharing with us and I hope to hear more !

Stella,
Maybe I should stop drinking the tea and try using the insomnia?! I will let you know how it goes !

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Melissa

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