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popeye
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posted October 09, 2003 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone.....I don't write very often but lately I have been wondering what some of you would have to say about some dreams I have had in the past. I wouldn't know exactly how to catigorize my dreams...they are very vivid and weird.....sometimes spiritual maybe alittle precognitive but so intense and packed with so much detail.....I often just end up writing them down and trusting that their meanings will become known in the future....I would like to read any input on these that you would like to share........

one in specific was started with me standing in a primitive assembly hall in the woods.....I was surounded by people who I knew in my dream but have never meet in waking life.....there was a recognition standing ovationation and then we were dismissed....I walked to a cabin where a girl I had been subtly courting was sleeping...I was racing to get to the cabin before her to talk with her....I saw the door was cracked but no light coming out....I wispered but was greeted with a cold tone and quickly directed to never show my face in view of the women who flutered my heart or her relitives or friends again.......Shocked I stood in the doorway frozzen.....speachless, she insisted I leave....her father was in the room out of site of me and second that motion...I stumbled as the door was shut on me and turned around dumfounded.....it made no sence....like a different person had taken over......I looked at the sky as the clouds became illuminated by the break of Dawn and saw rain begin to fall.....allways liking to embrace the elements I felt comforted and looked down infront of me and saw a tree that was half alive and for the most part branchless and leaveless.....I felt compeled to climb it and did so positioning the upper half of my body above the tallest bark and branch extentions and grasped tightly to two branches with each hand as the storm grow in intensity.....I had perfect foot and hand holding positions and was balanced as if I where on the ground....then the tree came alive and I became a part of it commanding it how to move with the pressure of my feet and hands........looking at its feet they must have been 2 feet around and draging 4 or 5 feet of root behind them through 3inches of mud..Better than offroading...hehe...

we moved stiffly but much faster than I could have run at full sprint.....running down a road filled with tree trunks and mud and water....we came to our first of 3 confrontation......a car in front of us that swerved in order to not hit a fallen tree almost hit us and we had to leap over it....breaking bark and branches at the landing and sliding unbalanced from loss of friction....we almost became smashed between that car and another with dull lights that smacked into the other car.....I remember looking down and see that huge round wooden foot slam into the trunt of the second car as we regained balance.....

I directed the tree to run on a side walk to the left of us that followed about a foot from about a 300 foot cliff that over looked hills and the rising sun.....then the second almost as soon as we had taken 3 or 4 steps..... an athletic and stocky man charged us eyes filled with rage and hate....I directed the trees right foot to swing to the left and it hit with so much force the mans body spun horizontaly like a human frisby and slamed into the other leg almost throwing us off the edge...we regained balance and ran for another 20 or 30 seconds...then the third the same but women who made no battle cry but came faster than the man and with a serated Katana....I thought of what manuver I could do to counter attack but new no way of communicating it to the tree....then it did it..like it saw my thoughts...sliding to the right and swinging under her legs and fliping her then almost instantly slamming her with another branch from the left in the head poping it like a pimple...we continued and I had no remorse, I had a mission (not like awake life but much like my dreams)..and then was a dog that I expected to attack as well but ended up being a close friend of mine....I jumped off(and it had just then stoped raning) and apolagized for my actions and we walked talking until we had reached my apartment(newly moved in) we departed to our own ways and I walked in and began fixing up my new place.....

I replaced all the light bulbs with green ones and began moving furnature in that my grandparents were to drop off outside...I remember feeling frantinc and pressed for time inorder to have things ready when they got there....as I came out side I saw my neihgbor sitting in a chair listening to loud music...a very attractive young women who I knew from just conversing with her was very well liked and easy going...I felt very comfortable around her too....at my parting to return to work she handed me an odd number of triangular shaped capsules that were very vividly colored gray,orange, red and yellow....they where such bright colors that they looked like dim lights inside.....she told me something to the effect that I was to take some and share the rest with my true friends and our consiousness would transend any barriers here.....thinking she ment hallucinagens I put them in my pocket and went on......wondering what I would experience.....

Just general things..I rarely remember a dream that is not lucid and they are often so long I have trouble telling where one dream starts and another begins......is this just good recall of some visiual rambaling of my imagination?? I some times wake with the feeling that my chi has swelled up like a balloon..it feels really soothing and like I was in the presence of angles..what is that all about???

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Ra
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posted October 10, 2003 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome popeye!

I must say, that is a peculiar dream! You certainly do have good recall, but I would not call your dreams "visual rambling of imagination" ... there is no doubt a meaning in there somewhere!

I will give this a closer look and try to give you some possible explanations.

Until then!

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Ra
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posted October 11, 2003 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Alright, popeye ...

I do not have time to go into all of the details, of which there are many, but I will try and give you the basics of what I see.

This dream seems to encompass a time period in your life when there was a learning/growth process taking place. Where you are now in relation to this symbolic timeline, I do not know, but perhaps you will recognize it. How long ago did you have this dream?

The dream begins in a period of accomplishment (assembly/standing ovation) which is quickly followed by a period in which you experience rejection and confusion (turned away by girl) which leaves you in a partially broken state of being (half alive tree) and emotional struggle (storm/mud). But this experience initiates a new beginning or cycle (Dawn) and a purging/purification of your emotional self (rain).

You begin to become more grounded, balanced, and powerful (you in/controlling the tree). You have obviously been trained in the Eastern disciplines/martial arts which you use to draw upon self discipline to overcome the obstacles you face (cars/people attacking). You overcome these obstacles, "mission" complete, and the inner self stablizes (no more attacks/rain stops). You succeed in being true/loyal to yourself (dog as friend) and begin a new cycle (new apartment).

This new beginning is a growth phase (green lights), although there is some anxiety associated with it (frantic/pressed for time). Connection with feminine/yin vibrations (young woman/music) leads to the possible completion of self (triangle pills), and thus higher conscious awareness (transcend barriers). The triangular shape of the pills speaks volumes - trinity, body-mind-spirit, completion, renewal, etc, etc, etc.

Does any of this strike a chord with you?

There are many more symbols/meanings in the details, like the grandparents, the girl, the woman, the attackers, the colours of the pills, etc. Perhaps we can delve into these in subsequent posts to clarify some of the possible meanings.

But that is all of the time I have for now!

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popeye
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posted October 13, 2003 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah that all hits home....About a year ago a had this dream...I had found a life I was very comfortable with and could really express my self with out being blown off by my friends...they seemed to understand my desires and ambitions no matter how strange or unorthidox they became...

I had fallen in love with a girl I thought would of course be around forever...It became very intense because how we complemented each other in strangths and Weaknesses...311 vibration...Very abruptly and intensly it ended.....

It took me over a year to regain my self and become fully functional again...I know that sounds like a long time but I had felt like I could do anything with this person...like things where perfect and I had truly been blessed with a companion forever...

I pushed myself to no end until I passed out from total exertion every day so that I would not have to think to much about her...

I started many hobbies and found out a lot about my self then. I started Martial Arts when I was 11 but stoped at the end of my High School Senior year because I got bored and felt like I didn't really belong anymore.

I can see how the dream represents my change in direction from an angry punk kid to some one with a wider view mental, physicaly and spiritualy along with more understanding and patience for life and people...

My ambition to become balanced in mind body and spirit has been a very powerful healer for my whole being and I now continually find new people in the feilds of study I love.

I would love for you to help me understand the rest of the details...(espetially the Girl and the Colors)...I haven't liked others to interpret my dreams because their usually not even close to being as exact as you have been!!! Blessings and insperation to you

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Ra
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posted October 13, 2003 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
It is my pleasure, popeye. I am glad you found something in that.

Thank you for sharing your dream.

I will give you some input on some of the details as soon as I get a chance.

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posted October 14, 2003 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Popeye, is the dream-neighbor a real person, or just in the dream?

And, you do not have to answer this if you do not wish, but I am curious what your relationship is with your parents and grandparents. I get the impression that you were either raised somewhat by your grandparents, or that they at least had some significant role in your young life. ???

I have many notes about the colours, but no time to type them out right now. I will as soon as I can!

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Ra
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posted October 16, 2003 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I have not forgotten about you popeye!

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popeye
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posted October 16, 2003 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye     Edit/Delete Message
Well thank you.....I ment to write back sooner but have not because of the lack of time.....

The neighbor was just in the dream....my grand parents did have a lot to do with my mother getting custody of my sister and I.....we lived with them for 2 years while my mom became financially ready to take care of us.....they have helped me out with being able to go back to school aswell and that was just recently...

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posted October 17, 2003 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Okay ...

These colours kind of mirror the sequence of the dream, and I think it is no coincidence that you listed them in that order.
--Grey- "grey" emotions like depression, also neutrality.

--Orange- balance, and some say a feminine energy.

--Red- life energy ... also, alchemically, the stage of transformation which indicates the presence of higher/spiritual awareness and which preceeds the manifestation of gold, or enlightenment ... which leads us to ...

--Yellow- enlightenment, completion, wholeness, awareness.

I have found that alchemical symbology, especially with colours and numbers, seems to play an important role in dreams in general ... perhaps it is an ingrained energy/aspect in the collective unconscious ... whatever the case, there seem to be correlations with your dream.

So, from that perspective, it is interesting to note an alchemical "formula" which says something like, "from three comes one as the fourth". This indicates a process taking place, one of self-development. In your dream we have a triangle (three) and the colours (four), which are combined in pill form, suggesting a process of self-development in an alchemical kind of way. Do you see what I mean?

On top of that, three plus four equals seven - a number of spiritual activity (ie, seven days of creation, seven seals) and also a number of completion (ie, seven days of the week). AND three times four equals twelve - a number of spiritual activity (ie, twelve disciples) and a number of completion (ie, twelve months of the year). No matter how the math is done, the results are the same, which suggests to me the validity of the message.

And the message in the numbers is the same as the message in the colours ... change, self-development, higher awareness.

Now, neighbors often reflect something about ourselves, something we need to see or incorporate, and this neighbor seems to symbolize both something you desire, and something you need. You desire feminine companionship. But this neighbor is giving you pills which suggests that there may be a more pressing internal need to incorporate, or be in touch with, feminine energies of your own.

As reflected in the dream, in waking life, you lost an important "feminine energy" which had you feeling "half alive" (tree) and perhaps depressed (grey pill, mud). But you recovered your balance (orange pill), controlled tree) through self-discipline and focus (martial arts) and regained your life energy (red pill, stopped raining). The only thing you lack is what you lost to begin with, a stronger connection with feminine force/vibration (woman neighbor, music), and the dream is telling you that this needs to be done internally first (take pills) instead of relying upon the external (girlfriend). Doing so will transform you into the "yellow", complete, enlightened experience, the process of which is symbolized by the myriad 3/4 connections.

Have I completely confused you? I re-read this and it just barely conveys what I am thinking.

There are other ways of looking at the symbols, but the meanings seem to say the same thing. The triangular shape of the pills, for example, carry the meaning of completion and spirituality even without all of the alchemy. And the numbers 3 and 4 have much the same meaning in Jungian psychology, even without the alchemical viewpoint.

So the meanings wrapped up in the symbology are layers thick, but all point to the same end.

Did all of that help or hinder?

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popeye
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posted October 17, 2003 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye     Edit/Delete Message
Good job.....you made alot of sence out of that dream that I doubted existed......I think you helped me more in ralizing that my dreams tell be more than I thought they would......so change and self-development are both something I have been working on for a while but I get confused and lose direction when working on my higher-awearness.

I supose it is more of a lack of discipline in that area that slowes my progress

Thank you once again...........I have other dreams I had writen down at the time I would like for you to interpret if you had the time???? I have to warn you they are very long and detailed and some contain pervers actions that might not be considered apropopriate....but they still make me wonder what they mean

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posted October 21, 2003 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Of course I would be happy to have a look at some past dreams. If you think anything is too explicit, you can either try to tone it down, or you can e-mail me.

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popeye
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posted October 25, 2003 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye     Edit/Delete Message
okay then....I will gladly post some more dreams......I haven't had time to even write the new ones down so it will be alittle while....I work 60 hours a week and go to school 10 so it makes it difficult

Thanks again

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pixelpixie
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posted October 26, 2003 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Popeye~ I think your dream was amazing, the tree part, I really identified with, it felt like I was doing it too. Whether that means I HAVE done it before, is insignificant, I really felt empathic with that. Thanks for that experience. I would love to live vicariously through you again.....keep posting those incredible dreams!

Ra~ I don't think I have explored this forum much....I am mostly in the astrology one, but I will surely be back again. You are incredible. Your depth and insight was so explored and varied, and oddly, it made sense. I'd love to have you pick apart my subconscious sometime! THAT would be quite the undertaking!
Hope you both have a great week!

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posted October 28, 2003 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
popeye ... at your leisure!

pixelpixie ... thanks!! Believe me, when this stuff makes sense (and it does not always!), the oddity of it does not get past me! It is like shooting in the dark, and honestly, I do not know how this information comes together half the time! I will read this interpretation sometime later and think, "did I say that?"

Looking forward to hearing your dreams!

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