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Topic: dreaming only in the astral plane?
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batgirl
Knowflake Posts: 196
From: florida, usa
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted April 20, 2004 03:43 AM
 
i noticed the subject heading was astral realms, as about dreams. but are all dreams in the astral plane? i dont have a clear idea of what the astral plane is, is it a manifested but non-physical/non-flesh place? or is it purely imagination?i've had some dreams lately where there is the same 'dream guide' almost every night. but he hides kind of in the shadows while i'm dreaming and then when i wake up i remember he was there. this is the image of my 'imaginary friend' believed soulmate, but the way he looked when i met him, nine years ago. this is probably some astral memory image, just a part of my own mind now? i've read the astral world is full of illusion, is there a way to dream outside the astral plane? i'd like to be more than an observer in my dreams, but since i'm not, does that mean i should probably just stick with that, maybe i'm not ready for 'waking up' in a dream. i have a fear i might want to stay there if it's a good dream! what is the astral realm exactly? IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted April 20, 2004 05:32 AM
Hello batgirl  Great question. I suppose you could get a thousand answers. My personal picture of the "astral realms" is actually summed up in the plural realms. I see it as a continuum of sorts ... rather like an onion, where there are many layers or levels, with physical reality, dense energy, in the center. Each increasing layer is a different energy or vibrational level, becoming less dense. Our consciousness vibrates in one of these vibrational frequencies, thus experiencing the innate characteristics of that vibration. In my mind, the astral planes carry with them some aspect of form, form of individual consciousness ... a kind of separateness and awareness of the "stuff" that we are composed of in any given level. The mental and spiritual levels seem to have a sense of formlessness. Am I making any sense?  And of course, any one of these can overlap another. Anyway, as this pertains to dreams, I tend to see dreams as vehicles that can travel through these layers, as well as into the mental and spiritual levels, and all the inner layers of Self, experiencing any one of them. The out-of-body state has the same capability, but consciously, not subconsciously. I guess my picture of the astral world looks less like an onion and more like spaghetti!   IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 17646
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 28, 2004 01:40 PM
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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
batgirl
Knowflake Posts: 196
From: florida, usa
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted May 18, 2004 05:53 AM
i dont know if that post is going to show up.additionally (in case it does) to think of dreams in this way will help me to feel more free about using dreams as a tool. i feel more visually grounded rather than this big fog over my head where dreams just happen and usually i cant remember--i wonder if i can find my memory in there somewhere IP: Logged |
batgirl
Knowflake Posts: 196
From: florida, usa
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted May 18, 2004 05:55 AM
nope, i guess it isnt. i dont remember what i wrote. i thanked ** and told him i couldnt say that name or weird things happenand that the onion image helps a lot, and i think of the song 'glass onion' by the beatles IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted May 19, 2004 04:47 AM
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paras
Knowflake Posts: 126
From: the Heart of It All
Registered: May 2004
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posted May 19, 2004 05:15 AM
Ra, your "onion" analogy reminds me of Robert Munroe's books, Journeys Out of the Body and Far Journeys. Have you read them, batgirl? They are all about the astral plane(s). Very interesting. And while I cannot say whether Dr. Munroe's "cosmology" as presented is "the" truth, I do tend to believe that he reported his own experiences honestly.(I just figured out how to italicize things, after a web address -- to my suprise -- was automatically converted to an actual link in another post. So I suppose I will not need to use capital letters all the time now! ) IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted May 19, 2004 01:14 PM
Hello paras Robert Monroe has had a profound effect on the way I view the astral. Did you read his last book, Ultimate Journey? Fascinating. IP: Logged |
paras
Knowflake Posts: 126
From: the Heart of It All
Registered: May 2004
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posted May 19, 2004 03:27 PM
Hello, Ra. No, I have not read it yet. It has been some years since I read those books, but they had a profound effect on my own thoughts as well. At the very least, they introduced new possibilities to my mind. The true identity of the INSPECs seems to correlate (at least partially) with Linda's ideas of the Spirit, or Higher Self. And I really liked the idea that in 50,000 years those of us still on earth will be walking around in a natural paradise, naked, innocent and unashamed, with open third eyes and reclaimed psychic abilities.  IP: Logged |
batgirl
Knowflake Posts: 196
From: florida, usa
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted June 19, 2004 12:25 PM
no i havent read any of his books, but i read an article about him once, given to me by a group i was in, in college called the self-knowledge symposium; the leader of the group and some of the longer-term members were acquanited with his books, and had met himIP: Logged |
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