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juniperb
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posted May 02, 2004 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I need help with a dream that was unfinished. A racoon in my birdseed woke me out of it at a critical time

Ok, I had a shiney black ball and it was hexagonally shaped. Like the old disco balls but about 6 ins. across. It pulled apart and I had stashed all my money in it. I took it apart and gave my husband sixty dollars and I took sixty and I thought ok, thats one hundred and twenty dollars out.

I put the ball in my purse then went somewhere where there was a group of people. I went to get the ball and purse (now they were separated). I couldn`t find the ball. I looked and looked asking each I saw if they had seen it. I looked for my purse; I could see it but I couldn`t find it ( the purse was brown).

I was so puzzled because I knew the people wern`t lying or thieves and the ball & purse had to be there if I just looked in the correct place. I wasn`t frantic as I would be for real

I had just noticed another room and went to enter it and I was woke up.

I`m not uneasy about it but more puzzled. Of course money is always a concern abut not a burning issue. Thoughts? Thanks.

juniperb

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posted May 04, 2004 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello juniperb.

Are you separated from someone? Your husband? This could be physically, emotionally, whatever. There are possible indications, from a Fruedian standpoint, that this could be a sexual/intimacy, or a relationship issue. Otherwise, it appears to be an issue of personal energy/identity and fears or concerns about loosing it, possibly even on an unconscious level (black ball), or conscious but secret.

What does the number six mean to you? It seems to be important ... hexagonal, six inches across, sixty dollars - twice.

We'll figure it out.

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posted May 04, 2004 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ra, guess this dream is ment to be broken into segments.

My relationship with my spouse is healthy

Yet is could be a familial relationship issue I`m concerned about.

conscious but secret there is something going on that I`m very concerned about concerning a family member. We both carry the secret. There is fear involved as it has the potential to harm anothers idenity/energy. We are separated by the secret as we each see a different way to address it. I wish open direct honesty, the other a murky 'it`ll go away if we don`t address it'.

The numbers, I have no special affinity to the number six. Yet is is an important part of the dream. I can`t relate to how it ties in. With this new insight, any more thoughts?

Thanks Ra juniperb

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posted May 05, 2004 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
The thoughts are manifesting far too slowly lately. This dream just screams "interpretation 101" but I just cannot seem to wrap my mind around it quite yet.

Last night I tried asking my inner self what the dream means, kind of as an experiment, but also hoping for some insight. I did get a response (which I do not always) ... "she is looking for an answer" ... that was all I got. Not exactly words of wisdom. It seemed as if there was going to be more, and I waited, but it never came through.

Soooo anyway, I will certainly keep thinking about it.

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posted May 11, 2004 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi juniperb

I haven't forgotten about you. I finally began to get a feel for this dream last night, but I kept getting interrupted by co-workers! I was not able to get very far, so I am still working on it.

A question, what did you mean when you said, "I could see it but I couldn`t find it. "?

And I want to check something with you ... I asked myself about the ball, and here is part of the answer ... "The ball was not actually a hexagon - the dreamer relaying it as such out of the desire of the subconscious to convey the energy of six. The meaning of the shape is more about the facets of the ball ..." .

Is that true?

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posted May 12, 2004 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, my thoughts on this are getting too complex and seem to be running off on tangents. Perhaps if we look at the symbols together a simpler, more direct answer can be found. I'll give some possible meanings for each.

shiney black ball - unconscious, unaware, or secret energies pertaining to self.

hexagonal/six - union of masculine and feminine, harmony, love, or wholeness/completion

money - personal energy/resources, values or value

purse - identity

Then we must also consider the actions and feelings ... the separation of the "ball", the division of the "money", searching for the "ball" and "purse", puzzled. Also noticing another "room" - another possibility, idea, thought that you have not yet recognized?

Does any of this ring a bell with you? Can you substitute any of the meanings for symbols in the dream, so that it makes sense concerning some current situation?

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posted May 12, 2004 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I`m here Ra, just pondering each as we go.

I could see an 'image of the purse' but not the actual purse of where it was.

The six holds a clue and I`ve looked at every interpretation and can`t quite get it.

Facets of the ball, sure I have been going thru a change re money.The different facets of it. I was a workaholic and liked to save (ok, hoard )my money. Some heavy transits have blown thru and my whole attitude of money, it`s uses and having it have done a 360. I used to lay awake nights worrying about having enough. Now, I simply want enough to make ends meets with a few bucks for emergencys. I work just enough to see thats possable; no more of the 50 - 60 hrs a week. Thats all changed in the last SIX months. I feel freer,more in harmony and enjoying my femininity much more. Albiet, shorter in the cash dept but it`s not worry.

My values have totally changed so that could be the money/personal energy.

The seperation of the ball, division of the money could relate to me earning less and taking on more home chores so he can earn it?

I`m rambling so Maybe this will help and I`ll keep working on the six and other room.

Thanks Ra!! juniperb

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posted May 13, 2004 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Now we may be getting somewhere. So you think the "facets" may be concerning monetary related issues, literally? I was thinking it was symbolic of some other situation, but the more I think about it the more your thoughts make sense. Yes, the many facets of the situation, perhaps including a "loss" of identity, or more accurately the "searching" for your "correct place" - a kind of re-adjusting.

I'll try to put my thoughts together and get back to you later.

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posted May 14, 2004 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi juniperb

Well, my thoughts are partially together so I'll try to explain it the best I can ... that shiney black hexagonal ball full of money turned out to be quite the symbol.

Let's see if this works. We'll begin with the assumption that the dream is a reflection of the different facets of your situation concerning both money and values.

Your situation is changing and you are transforming, so I am leaning towards a more alchemical view of the colour black, representing the first stage in the proces of transformation, and thus the beginning of a new situation or new growth. There could also be an association with the unconscious, or those aspects of self which have been residing there. You have "opened" this unconscious material which contains a source of personal energy, "saved" energy.

A hexagon/hexagram suggests geometry, balance, the union of masculine and feminine (two triangles, ie the Star of David), love, and harmony - a kind of yin and yang. You divide it and make an equal distribution of six, numerologically, between you and your husband. So in dividing six (hexagon), you end up with (60)six and (60)six - balance ... and so also the division resulting in more than the original ... 6/2=6+6 ... yet remaining in balance ... 6/2(3)=6+6(12=3) ...3=3. Does that make sense? Another suggestion anent growth.

Dividing the hexagon could also suggest the division of the masculine and the feminine, in a balanced manner in your case, and suggests growth in this respect through the inference of the number three (half of six) which represents, according to Jungians and the alchemical, the beginning of a new psychological or transformative process, as well as cyclic completion! This is further alluded to in the equation 60+60=120, or 6+6=3 ... balanced division=growth! So it is through this conscious division and change that you are able to embrace more of the feminine (by separating from the masculine), to be "more in harmony (6!) and enjoying my femininity more".

Many facets indeed! And all "geometrically" interconnected on different levels.

Sooooo, looking for the ball and purse could symbolize finding your identity, re-adjusting to find your "correct place". Not coincidentally, the purse is also a symbol for femininity, fitting well with identifying more with your feminine aspects, finding them.

This is what Sandra Thomson says about discovering a room ... "Discovering [a room] can symbolize undertaking new roles; developing new strengths or parts of your personality; emotional expansion." I cannot say it any better than that! An utterly appropriate symbol if this interpretation is correct.

So, if we are correct here, it would appear that your decision to re-adjust your situation and attitude regarding money is having some very positive effects on your life, although there will be times of "searching" for your "correct place".

What do you think?

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posted May 15, 2004 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Ra ! I couldn`t see the forest for the trees

The # 3 was so important but I focused on the 6 instead.

It fits perfectly when taking all the transitions into account.

It`s been a bumbling and searching time but I`ve felt confident the changes are for my growth. Many think I`ve lost my sanity but if they can`t accept or keep up, I will have to move on from the friendships. Always painful but a accepted part of growth.

Interestingly,since a child I`ve always felt stiffled my the 3 as in the trinity. Father or Son can`t exist without Mother. So I`ve always grappled with the feminine aspect ie Holy Spirit being Feminine. I knew it was, but the Patriarcal religions kept it male and I felt smothered by it. I`ve embraced the Shekinah as the Holy Spirit and it`s been a whirlwind of transitions since.

Apparently this has influenced my life and embracing the Feminine has opened the gates to harmony and balance.

Thank you dear Ra I enjoyed the walk with you and am grateful for our help.

juniperb

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posted May 17, 2004 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, the three is important as it pertains to active growth, but we should not forget the base influence of the number six.

Not only does it represent those things I mentioned, but Linda puts it this way ... "feminine essence, compassion, and also money." Check out Linda's full definition of six - I think you will find it very appropriate as an energy you are now involved with. Three and six are an awesome combination.

Thank you for sharing your dream juniperb! The pleasure was all mine.

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posted May 25, 2004 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
And I just found out that your efforts to embrace the Feminine could not be more perfectly in tune with astrological forces. Apparently Venus makes a sizeable impression upon this planet beginning on 6/06 lasting thru 6/08 ... some saying that this ushers in a new influence of the Feminine Energies.

How appropriate!


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posted May 25, 2004 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
How wonderful! I hope the influence spills over the globe and embraces it with her

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