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posted August 17, 2004 08:26 AM         

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There was water.. a sort of 'change' in the world. But anti-climatic.. in that I sensed a changed everywhere, with everyone, but other than at least a foot of water everywhere, and a sense of change in the air, things were the same. there were more wandering people, as if on a quest. Ther was a grup of apartments, all interconnected, that I lived in. There was a woman in one of the apartment rooms who used to sing to herself, had a daughter around and sometimes she'd bathe with her clothes on, she wanted to be a mermaid or something. Yhe clothes she wore .. a blue shirt with intricate embroidery on it and slightly flared sleeves. She even had a scrub brush the same colour and the same design. I got the sense that she was a little 'touched' but later in the dream I reconciled it and came to peace with the way she made peace. Ra was there. He came later and I recognized him.I was grateful to see him. I called him Greg. There was a feeling of 'keep moving' - gather together and then it's time for a quest. My daughter was with me, but not my son or husband. (Usually I freak out if one of my kids are not present within my drams, or make up something like 'oh, he's safe.. with his daddy.'. or something like that. But in this dream they were just unquestioningly not present.) My brother showed up with his friends, and I was really grateful to see him. They were all wearing robes.
I followed along the street earlier in the dream, and rather was sort of swimming along, really fast.. like a log ride, and it was just my body.. no propellant or vehicle.
I got the 'vibe' of Paras, his energy, I suppose, and he was going through the water filled streets on the back of a whale. .
So my dreams involved LindaLand.
Any thoughts? (Other than how cool it would be to ride the back of a whale)

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posted August 17, 2004 12:05 PM         

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Sounds etheral, calm & beautiful

Could be a future incarnation? Ra being Greg, and the appearance of certain people, not seeing your kid & daddy's presence? Just a minor thought from K. I'm sure it can & will be interpreted by the proficient dream-buffs here.

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posted August 19, 2004 02:05 PM         

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I think it sounds really beautiful. How did you feel during it? I get the visuals but not how you were feeling during except not worrying about missing people.

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posted August 19, 2004 05:18 PM         

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I was feeling at peace for now but I sensed a change coming. One had already happened, but it didn't really affect me, per say, just the state of things around me. and only in little ways. I felt good to see these people who had travelled to see me, and that we wouyld start ther quest together soon.
The name Greg? I happened to meet someone named Greg last week. That's where that name came from. He 'felt' like Ra though.. Ra's energy, not Greg from real life.

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posted August 19, 2004 08:49 PM         

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This is a peculiar dream. I have read over it many times and just get a strange feeling about it. There does seem to be a good deal of symbolic material, but there is something else, some more significant level.

Any other details that you can remember may prove helpful. What do you think about the "touched" woman ... any feeling about what/who she could represent?

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posted August 20, 2004 12:04 PM         

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She lived in a room in the interconnected apartments.. I could easily hear her singing and talking to the child, when I walked by. I had formed opinions of her earlier in the dream, and then expanded on it when I heard her singing to her child later. I didn't think there was something wrong with her anymore.. just that she was unusual and had different methods. I don't know what the blue shirt was all about. It was a really lovely shade of blue, with intricate details all over it.. embroidered.. no particular pattern though .. and the scrub brush that looked like the shirt.. I even held it in my hand. Very strange that all this 'cleansing' symbology should be present in my dreams lately.

I had another actually, before thisone. It has been on my mind so I think I will post it ( what I can remember of it) I was in a mounmtainside.. when say mountainside ,I mean it is a mountain, but with apartments and paths all throughout it. I was looking for someone/thing. There was a group of 'bad guys'. but while they were 'bad', I had the sense that I was with them in a way. I could handle them.These guys were following me, but hadn't caught me. I don't know what or who I was looking for, but I kept knocking on doors, and opening them. It was quite a run-down place, in spots. Graffitti and debris. I opened one door, and there was someone there. I felt relief, but also anxiety. Then the men caught up to me. It was somewhat sexual in tone. Like sparks of attraction. But at the same time, he wasn't out for what was best for me, but I felt like we were a team somehow. When all was said and done, he wouldn't let me down. We went to this room and I was bound, on a seat around a circle, with other people bound too. It was almost like a game show.. trivia.. a test. I think I actually did well. But still, someone had my son up here and now I was trying to win his life. This part was vry disturbing.. even though I got answers right, they stabbed my son through his shoulder. I was livid and shocked and started fighting and screaming, then someone beside me said "It's not real, they didn't really do that" I desperately wanted to believe this person. I knew somehow my son mas okay.

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posted August 20, 2004 01:06 PM         

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Wow pixie! This is all very interesting....sorry, I don't have any thoughts, right now, on how to interpret it, but quite interesting.

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posted August 26, 2004 05:51 AM         

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I'm not ready for the 'With Water' dream, but I do have some thoughts on this last one.

The mountainside, especially in conjunction with apartments and paths, represents the psychological mountain you find yourself upon and the solutions you seek. You feel trapped in a way, both part of the problem and the solution, groping in the dark for some bit of light - some way, some how. Anxiety manifests (being pursued) as you search yourself (opening doors) for some new perspective, some new answer.

The sexual tone of your "capture" either indicates some sort of excitement in your process of self-examination, or it could suggest a kind of diversion from your search/path. Do you think your husband is symbolized in your statement, "he wasn't out for what was best for me, but I felt like we were a team somehow. When all was said and done, he wouldn't let me down."?

Sitting bound in a circle could suggest that you feel stuck in some sort of cycle, and yet even though you feel restricted, you accept it in some way. The disturbing part of the dream involves your son. Whatever situation is restricting you or has your "hands tied" has something to do with feelings of guilt concerning him (shoulder/stabbed). It is as if no matter what you do to resolve it, you still feel very guilty towards him. Your dream is telling you not to worry so much ..."It's not real, they didn't really do that." Children are resilient and very forgiving ...

Make any sense?

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posted August 26, 2004 11:00 PM         

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You feel trapped in a way, both part of the problem and the solution, groping in the dark for some bit of light - some way, some how. Anxiety manifests (being pursued) as you search yourself (opening doors) for some new perspective, some new answer.

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Yes. I feel this to be true.

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The sexual tone of your "capture" either indicates some sort of excitement in your process of self-examination,.........Do you think your husband is symbolized in your statement, "he wasn't out for what was best for me, but I felt like we were a team somehow. When all was said and done, he wouldn't let me down."?

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Yes. My husband?

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Whatever situation is restricting you or has your "hands tied" has something to do with feelings of guilt concerning him (shoulder/stabbed). It is as if no matter what you do to resolve it, you still feel very guilty towards him

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This part is strange to me. I don't really feel guilty concerning my son, and the other things that make sense in the dream.. that one seemed to come from out of thin air.. but obviously, my psyche is trying to connect something.
Thank you for the time and effort. I appreciate it.

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posted August 28, 2004 06:50 PM         

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If not your husband, then any idea who or what? Is it someone or something that you fear becoming like or wrapped up in? An ex, a parent, a habit?

Is your ex your son's father? Any issues/concerns with the ex? Your son?

Any parental concerns in general?

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posted August 29, 2004 01:14 AM         

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Hmmm... The ex? Naw.. things are good there. It was a long hard road, but I am confident in the journey and its ways now.
I do have an idea though.. based initially in what I said about this person.. He wasn't necessarily out for what was best for me, but we are a team.... I do understand that. It makes sense. Sometimes you can go through things for your own growth, even non-traditional growth, in the long run to do what is best for your soul's development. It's not everyone's path, but it is one that ulimately makes sense. No reason or accountability.
A Habit? Perhaps.
I don't think though, other than an everpresent nagging fear that anything could happen to those we love... I don't think the dream had much to do with my son and the situation revolving around that. His father, etc... I lways fear that bad uncontrollable things will happen to the ones I love.
Thanks for walking me through the possibilities.
I think you hit on things...

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posted August 31, 2004 05:51 AM         

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"I always fear that bad uncontrollable things will happen to the ones I love."

The roots of that statement could go very deep indeed.

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posted August 31, 2004 08:26 AM         

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Hmmmm...... shall I get all deep and psychological?
I do though. I think I have said this on another thread. Must be a strong fixedness in my chart.... I fear things I cannot control.. being a passenger.... being under someone else's care... more so for my children. My son was outside enjoying the last bit of summer yesterday.. just around the neighbourhood and I had to talk myself down.. and through it. "He's fine. He's having fun. Don't worry. He'll be home soon."
Just regular worries I guess. Another part of me knows he needs air and freedom to an extent. So it is an internal battle. I just try to teach them well before they go on out to do their thing.
My daughter learned the proper way to hold scissors. She isn't allowed to run with anything in her hand ( other than a ball.)
Am I neurotic???

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posted September 01, 2004 05:20 AM         

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Not hardly. Sounds pretty normal to me.

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posted September 09, 2004 01:13 AM         

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do you think that by holding your son back you could be hurting him?

the stabbing of the shoulder, "Dont worry they didn't really do it."

telling yourself to stop worrying and just let things be, because it hasnt happened?

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posted September 09, 2004 01:17 AM         

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You said that even though you got the questions right, they stabbed him anyway.

Is this just your mind saying you have to let him make his own decisions and protect himself.

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posted September 10, 2004 01:54 AM         

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That's the thing though.. I don't hold him back. I am quite permissive. BUT. I make sure he understands rules and/or consequences, in a realistic way. I make him think about things.
The battles I fight are internal.
Thanks for your thoughts. Much appreciated.
The whole game show, fighting for my son.. I don't know what context that was in. It went against the ideas I have for this dream...... the one part ( don't all dreams contain one hidden facet, no matter how carefully they are worked out?)

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posted September 10, 2004 01:59 AM         

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Hmmmmm... The whole 'neurotic thing' that I went on about before, I wanted to let you know... I didn't go into detail about how wack-o I normally am.. believe me I am not repressed or uptight!!!
I understand how you could think I am 'holding him back' based upon those few statements, but I guess I wrote that thinking the people who read it knew me, because I am a regular poster... so I didn't have to justify or explain in depth.... no worries.. my son is encouraged to be individual and will be no matter what anyway.. he is a creative and wonderful child and I am very proud of him. we've come a long way together and I am hisd biggest champion.
Just wanted to clarify

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posted September 10, 2004 02:17 AM         

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I believe you.

I was putting myself into your dream and asking myself what it could possible mean for me as a mother. (Which is hard because I'm 16) I did this because I'm new and dont know you.

Just trying to spark something in you. Didn't work. lol.

NEways hope you work it out.

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posted January 12, 2005 02:36 AM         

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I have been compulsively re-reading dreams, to search for some meanings, and particularily ones with water/change.

This is mine, so I am justified in hip-checking it to the top.

By the way Ra, I re-read your interpretation of my mountainside dream, and it makes a lot of sense.
Though I have trouble admitting it, I have a lot of guilt issues surrounding my son... Particularily that he will never have a full-blood sibling, and that even though on the surface things are calm for the most part between his father and I , in our mutual situations, there is always an unsettledness. We are the first to jump to error, the first to assume a snide attitude regarding the other. So yes, I feel guilt about lots.
I want him too as well. See? there it is....

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posted January 12, 2005 04:59 AM         

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Hi Pixie

Please bring up anything you wish, and let us know if you find anything. I have been wanting to re-read some old strings too, for a similar reason.

I never did, or could, interpret the first dream in this topic ... interesting. And I'm glad the second one makes sense.

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posted January 12, 2005 12:24 PM         

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Glad to be on the same page with you.
I don't think my first water dream was symbolic of this whole tsunami thing, and I have no illusions that I am a prophetic genius or anything, but I think it is interesting, that the collective unconscious will send us clues to pick up on and integrate, so based upon that, I want to see any similarities in the collective.
My dreams are usually intensely personal.
I do see how the mountainside one and your interpretation fits, especally with a current view.. I love retrospect for just that.. I feel so much more learned when revisiting something. I can track the evolution of my psyche!

*at least I am evolving.. I hope I don't grow flippers or gills though....
actually, never mind, that might be great!!! My best dreams were always my mermaid ones...

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