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trillian
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posted August 21, 2004 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Ra,
I hate to burden you, you get so many requests. But a very lucid dream I had last night is somewhat perplexing to me. Some of the images are quite obvious, but some leave me confused. So, only if and when you get the time, I will be grateful for any input.

The dream was about an old flame, let's call him Sam. The 'flame' still exists between us, but he is married now, lives far away, and I haven't met his wife. He and I keep in touch mostly via e-mail.

In the dream, I was visiting him in the home he and his wife are in the process of buying (of course, as dreams go, the house didn't physically resemble the real house). Sam looked exactly as he does in RL, and was wearing a cool sort of patchwork shirt, with lots of patterns incorporated. I was accompanied by a mutual acquaintance, "Rick," whom neither of us is very fond of.

I sat on the sofa, and there were baby things all over it, bottles, clothes, etc., and I was very angry, because I believed it meant that Sam and his wife "Angie" had a baby, and he didn't tell me. I was furious, and wanted to confront him, but couldn't because of the presence of Rick. I wanted Rick to leave, and was trying to think of a way to make that happen.

Sam seemed to be his happy self...I noticed three cats in his home. In RL, Sam doesn't care for cats, prefers dogs. One cat was furry and orange, one was a Siamese, the other black. They were calm and after noticing them, they disappeard from the dream.

But Angie showed up, as though she were coming home. The dream Angie was very large, heavier than RL and very tall, too. Like six feet tall, and far more beautiful than she really is. I watched her closely, she was happy and charming, with long dark curly hair and appeared sort of gypsy-ish.

I looked at my hand and said to her "They gave me a piece of soap, and I don't know what to do with it." I was holding something like a bar of soap in my hand, and it was melting, there was a clear liquid that I poured from my hand, that had pooled there. Sticky, I wanted to rid myself of it, but wasn't sure how. She looked at it...

...and that's all I remember. It seems clear that I think "Sam" hasn't been honest with me about something (the baby), but the cats and the soap leave me confused.

Sorry for the length...thank you for taking a peek.

Much Love,
Trillian

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Ra
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posted August 23, 2004 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Trillian

Never a burden, always a pleasure.

I'll have a look as soon as I can. The others here may be able to offer some thoughts as well.

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trillian
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posted August 23, 2004 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ra. No hurry.

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posted August 25, 2004 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
You said, "The 'flame' still exists between us," and I would say perhaps more so than you are aware of, or than you are willing to admit.

This dream is obviously about the relationship dynamic betwen you and 'Sam'. His patchwork/patterned shirt suggests the "patchwork" of complex emotional/psychological "material" involving him and perhaps hints at karmic patterns/influences at work. The baby things reflect a new phase in 'Sam and Angie's' lives, a phase in which you have no part, in which you are left out ... he is moving and becoming more "distant" (mentally) ... and this serves as a catalyst for the reawakening and activation of some old emotions/energies. As a mutual aquaintance, Rick is a sort of communication conduit, and so symbolizes an aspect of self which is serving as an obstacle/block for the expression of your feelings.

As I see them, the three cats represent three tings: feminine energy, competition, and the process of individuation. They symbolize the feminine energy of Angie, "competition" with her, and the beginnings of a new process in your self-development, psychologically. And like Sam's shirt, they remind me of a "patchwork" of cats, or a "patchwork" of emotional/psychological "material".

Angie's presence is large and formidable, reflecting your awareness of her importance to him as well as her position as a hurdle that will probably not be overcome anytime soon. She is there to stay. It is this realization - conscious, subconscious, or otherwise - that spurs your subconscious to use the soap symbol ... at least subconsciously, you know that this "patchwork" of emotional/psychological material must be cleansed, you need to cleanse it ... but you do not know how. I suppose realizing it is there is the first step, for as you said, "after noticing them, they disappeared ...".

I know I made this sound as if you still have a "thing" for 'Sam' in some sort of active way, pursuing and competing for him, but this is meant only from the perspective of your subconscious, your psyche, the goings-on internally.

What do you think?

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trillian
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posted August 25, 2004 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, dear Ra. I think that you are exactly right. The other day it occured to me that the soap might indicate that I want or need to 'wash my hands' of him, but that there seem to be ties between us that make it difficult. I think you are right about everything, and I will think deeply on this dream, and its meanings regarding Sam and me.

Blessings to you and your family, Ra.

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posted August 26, 2004 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for sharing your dream, Trillian.

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