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Philbird
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posted September 30, 2004 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
crystals, rocks, and minerals. I had a dream that was very realistic, for me! First let me say I carry around a pouch of empowering rocks, minerals and crystals. Azurite, Lapis Lazuli, Citrine, Quartz Crystal, Sodilite, Malicite, Amethyst, Amazonite and a round purple plate to energize them.
In the dream, I was at a rock and mineral show of some sort, my collection was on a display table. All the sudden this guy, dressed in black, of course, came running over to me and waved a pistol at me and said "Give me what you got." I dropped to the floor behind a table but he insisted I get up so I did. I showed him my stones and started crying and said "These are the only things I have in the world, please don't take them." He looked at them, sighed, and walked away. When I woke up, I had tears on my face. My stones aren't THAT important to me!

I have never had a dream that I can remember where someone pointed a gun at me, and only me. I don't cry in my dreams, or get emotional. Well, I laugh a lot.

Also I noticed lately I've been lying in my dreams. Sounds like pretty soon I'll be wetting the bed!

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Suzume
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posted October 01, 2004 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suzume     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Philibird,

I get the feeling you feel as if as a person you are on display, (Your collection on a display table.) You feel threatened by an unknown source (man in black), and feel that this unknown source wants to steal a part of you (your collection). You want to hide but know you have to face the situation which causes you a great deal of emotion (the crying and pleading.) You have managed to get the situation in control with a great sigh of relief.

Does any of this sound right?

peace

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pixelpixie
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posted October 01, 2004 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
oooooh.. yer goooooood!!!!!

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Suzume
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posted October 01, 2004 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suzume     Edit/Delete Message
LOL,

thankz Pixie!

Ps Philibird...hope the wetting of the bed doesnt happen.

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pixelpixie
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posted October 01, 2004 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
(again)

*snicker*
*yawn* Off to bed! (to not pee)

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Ra
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posted October 01, 2004 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Well said Suzume ... I will say it again, you are a natural. As you will see, your thoughts mirror mine, so we must be on to something. It's good to have corroboration.

The stones symbolize those energies within self that you have brought under control, your inner resources, your power. I don't know about what you do outside of LindaLand, but here you have certainly put yourelf "on display". I know this has made you feel uncomfortable at times, and I applaud your courage.

So, without getting too specific, I will simply say that the dark man and his actions suggest that you are winning, healing ... the aspects of your psyche, as symbolized by the stones, have been/are being freed, released, and kept together. They are yours and you are going to keep them whole. As Suzume said, there is likely a great deal of emotional energy being pulled around, and indeed the gun being pointed at you could symbolize an inner or inwardly focused aggression (angry at yourself? Too hard on yourself?), but you inevitably succeed.

To me, the ending is actually a good one, one which indicates a progression in healing, although through some very difficult regression.

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Suzume
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posted October 01, 2004 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suzume     Edit/Delete Message
Still trying very hard to see everything you see. You see even the little details and cleaverly explain them.

It's good tho because when i reach your age if i listen to enough of your interpretations i should be pretty close to where you are... (depending on your age... )

Peace

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Ra
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posted October 01, 2004 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
That's very sweet, but I think you are already "pretty close". Trust me, I have just as much to learn as you do.

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Philbird
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posted October 01, 2004 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Tears!
This is so hard... As most of you know, my 13y/o came to live with me. He has ADHD. It has been a very trying time for me. I have had to push an education system on him that doesn't work for him, or me. We are constantly bickering during homework. Most of it is usless imformation. And we are both frustrated.
Before he came here, I had a lot of time to reflect on my beliefs and the way I want to live my life. I created my own reality, and it worked for me. Now I am faced with the reality of society and I have to be on my guard constantly, to protect my son, after all, he is expected to be a little robot in school!
My rocks and minerals reflect on my belief in spirituality, now I don't have space in my brain to focus on their meanings.
Maybe exposing the rocks at the show was a way of telling society this is who I am. Maybe the guy in black (society) was a threat to who I really am.
Basically, I'm having difficulty transfering what I believe, to my son's reality.
I'm also finding I'm not laughing as much as I used to, I'm getting too serious for comfort!
Thanks for connecting the dream to my waking life. I knew I was facing this problem and do feel terribly guilty for having to be so hard on my son.
Any way, thank you for everything.

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Ra
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posted October 02, 2004 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Philbird, this dream can be felt on many levels. Surely you are right about the stones and about the guy in black. It makes perfect sense. Just remember what your subconscious is telling you through this dream ... very emotional, very difficult, but inevitably you are okay. The release of your emotions dissipates the threat. Good luck, Philbird, hang in there.

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Saffron
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posted October 05, 2004 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
hi Philbird ~

have you considered homeschooling? i've heard of the most successful, well-adjusted and independent thinkers who were homeschooled.

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Saffron
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posted October 05, 2004 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
Unscooling: Delight-Driven Learning

Unschooling
by Earl Stevens

"What we want to see is the child in pursuit of knowledge, not knowledge in pursuit of the child."

-- George Bernard Shaw

It is very satisfying for parents to see their children in pursuit of knowledge. It is natural and healthy for the children, and in the first few years of life, the pursuit goes on during every waking hour. Bur after a few short years, most kids go to school. The schools also want to see children in pursuit of knowledge, but the schools want them to pursue mainly the school's knowledge and devote twelve years of life to doing so.

In his acceptance speech for the New York City Teacher of the Year award, John Gatto said, "Schools were designed by Horace Mann. . .and others to be instruments of the scientific management of a mass population." In the interests of managing each generation of children, the public school curriculum has become a hopelessly flawed attempt to define education and to find a way of delivering that definition to vast numbers of children.

The traditional curriculum is based on the assumption that children must be pursued by knowledge because they will never pursue it themselves. It was no doubt noticed that, when given a choice, most children prefer not to do school work. Since, in a school, knowledge is defined as schoolwork, it is easy for educators to conclude that children don't like to acquire knowledge. Thus schooling came to be a method of controlling children and forcing them to do whatever educators decided was beneficial for them. Most children don't like textbooks, workbooks, quizzes, rote memorization, subject schedules, and lengthy periods of physical inactivity. One can discover this - even with polite and cooperative children - by asking them if they would like to add more time to their daily schedule. I feel certain that most will decline the offer.

The work of a schoolteacher is not the same as that of a homeschooling parent. In most schools, a teacher is hired to deliver a ready-made, standardized, year-long curriculum to 25 or more age-segregated children who are confined in a building all day. The teacher must use a standard curriculum - not because it is the best approach for encouraging an individual child to learn the things that need to be known - but because it is a convenient way to handle and track large numbers of children. The school curriculum is understandable only in the context of bringing administrative order out of daily chaos, of giving direction to frustrated children and unpredictable teachers. It is a system that staggers ever onward but never upward, and every morning we read about the results in our newspapers.

But despite the differences between the school environment and the home, many parents begin homeschooling under the impression that homeschooling can be pursued only by following some variation of the traditional public school curriculum in the home. Preoccupied with the idea of "equivalent education", state and local education officials assume that we must share their educational goals and that we homeschool simply because we don't want our children to be inside their buildings. Textbook and curriculum publishing companies go to great lengths to assure us that we must buy their products if we expect our children to be properly educated. As if this were not enough, there are national, state, and local support organizations that have practically adopted the use of the traditional curriculum and the school-in-the-home image of homeschooling as a de facto membership requirement. In the midst of all this, it can be difficult for a new homeschooling family to think that an alternative approach is possible.

One alternative approach is "unschooling", also known as "natural learning", "experienced-based learning", or "independent learning". Several weeks ago, when our homeschooling support group announced a gathering to discuss unschooling, we thought a dozen or so people might attend, but more than 100 adults and children showed up. For three hours parents and some of the children took turns talking about their homeschooling experiences and about unschooling. Many people said afterward that they left the meeting feeling reinforced and exhilarated - not because anybody told them what to do or gave them a magic formula - but because they grew more secure in making these decisions for themselves. Sharing ideas about this topic left them feeling empowered.

Before I talk about what I think unschooling is, I must talk about what it isn't. Unschooling isn't a recipe, and therefore it can't be explained in recipe terms. It is impossible to give unschooling directions for people to follow so that it can be tried for a week or so to see if it works. Unschooling isn't a method, it is a way of looking at children and at life. It is based on trust that parents and children will find the paths that work best for them - without depending on educational institutions, publishing companies, or experts to tell them what to do.

Unschooling does not mean that parents can never teach anything to their children, or that children should learn about life entirely on their own without the help and guidance of their parents. Unschooling does not mean that parents give up active participation in the education and development of their children and simply hope that something good will happen. Finally, since many unschooling families have definite plans for college, unschooling does not even mean that children will never take a course in any kind of a school.

Then what is unschooling? I can't speak for every person who uses the term, but I can talk about my own experiences. Our son has never had an academic lesson, has never been told to read or to learn mathematics, science, or history. Nobody has told him about phonics. He has never taken a test or has been asked to study or memorize anything. When people ask, "What do you do?" My answer is that we follow our interests - and our interests inevitably lead to science, literature, history, mathematics, music - all the things that have interested people before anybody thought of them as "subjects".

A large component of unschooling is grounded in doing real things, not because we hope they will be good for us, but because they are intrinsically fascinating. There is an energy that comes from this that you can't buy with a curriculum. Children do real things all day long, and in a trusting and supportive home environment, "doing real things" invariably brings about healthy mental development and valuable knowledge. It is natural for children to read, write, play with numbers, learn about society, find out about the past, think, wonder and do all those things that society so unsuccessfully attempts to force upon them in the context of schooling.

While few of us get out of bed in the morning in the mood for a "learning experience", I hope that all of us get up feeling in the mood for life. Children always do so - unless they are ill or life has been made overly stressful or confusing for them. Sometimes the problem for the parent is that it can be difficult to determine if anything important is actually going on. It is a little like watching a garden grow. No matter how closely we examine the garden, it is difficult to verify that anything is happening at that particular moment. But as the season progresses, we can see that much has happened, quietly and naturally. Children pursue life, and in doing so, pursue knowledge. They need adults to trust in the inevitability of this very natural process, and to offer what assistance they can.

Parents come to our unschooling discussions with many questions about fulfilling state requirements. They ask: "How do unschoolers explain themselves to the state when they fill out the paperwork every year?", "If you don't use a curriculum, what do you say?" and "What about required record-keeping?" To my knowledge, unschoolers have had no problems with our state department of education over matters of this kind. This is a time when even many public school educators are moving away from the traditional curriculum, and are seeking alternatives to fragmented learning and drudgery.

When I fill out the paperwork required for homeschooling in our state, I briefly describe, in the space provided, what we are currently doing, and the general intent of what we plan to do for the coming year. I don't include long lists of books or describe any of the step-by-step skills associated with a curriculum. For example, under English/Language Arts, I mentioned that our son’s favorite "subject" is the English language. I said a few words about our family library. I mentioned that our son reads a great deal and uses our computer for whatever writing he happens to do. I concluded that, "Since he already does so well on his own, we have decided not to introduce language skills as a subject to be studied. It seems to make more sense for us to leave him to his own continuing success."

Homeschooling is a unique opportunity for each family to do whatever makes sense for the growth and development of their children. If we have a reason for using a curriculum and traditional school materials, we are free to use them. They are not a universally necessary or required component of our homeschooling programs, either educational or legally.

Allowing curriculums, textbooks, and tests to be the defining, driving force behind the education of a child is a hindrance in the home as much as in the school - not only because it interferes with learning, but because it interferes with trust. As I have mentioned, even educators are beginning to question the pre-planned, year-long curriculum as an out-dated, 19th century educational system. There is no reason that families should be less flexible and innovative than schools.

Anne Sullivan, Helen Keller's mentor and friend, said:

I am beginning to suspect all elaborate and special systems of education. They seem to me to be built upon the supposition that every child is a kind of idiot who must be taught to think. Whereas if the child is left to himself, he will think more and better, if less "showily". Let him come and go freely, let him touch real things and combine his impressions for himself... Teaching fills the mind with artificial associations that must be got rid of before the child can develop independent ideas out of actual experiences.

Homeschooling provides a unique opportunity to step away from systems and methods, and to develop independent ideas out of actual experiences, where the child is truly in pursuit of knowledge, not the other way around.

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Philbird
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posted October 07, 2004 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
That was very kind of you to post that saffron! Thank you. Have you ever read OSHO's book called "Intelligence?"
It talks a lot about the child being naturally intelligent- before we send him to school.
Mary

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