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sesame
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posted October 26, 2004 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
I've had a few dreams of America that I always think about, and wonder their meaning.

1. The first was set in San Francisco. I was with a group of people standing on a slope outside a quickie mart. We walked in and asked for some tea, whereby we were given paper cones filled with a thick lime green liquid. There were little triangular cuts along the rim. Once we drank this, we walked outside and headed up the slope. Then I was at the top by myself when I saw a motor bike hoon around a corner. I was say, on the south-east corner of an interseection, and he came from north and headed east. But then, there was a woman on the road which the boke seemed to hit. The bike took off, and I ran over to the woman and pulled her blond hair out of her eyes. I woke up. I had this one about ten years ago I think. I don't dream much.

2. This one was a mixture of Cairo and New York. I think it was after I came back from Egypt. There seemed to be social upheaval. A massive statue was destroyed and the Head carried over a square. I think it was New York, but there seemed to be flashes of Egypt as well. I think this could be because I knew the population was similar. I remember meeting a girl who took me through a subway. We found some sort of abandoned building where we found some quite and could talk. This was a few months ago.

3. My last one occured about two weeks ago. I was on a train in New York. People got on, then off. I ordered a meal from a machine - a massive burger and hugw fries. I don't remember drinking. Then I look out the window and saw an absolutely HUGE skateboard ramp - the size of a sky scraper. I new I was in California and I got out and looked around. It was definitely California, but it was a big city. About the size of New York now, but a half of its size then. The sun was bright and it was a beautiful day.

I get the impression from all of these dreams that they are in the future, but don't really understand why I had them. What do you guys think?

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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posted October 26, 2004 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm.. I am not an expert but let me give it a shot. You have not visited America.

You have wish to visit new york. At the same time afraid of devastation that might happen if you do visit, in light of recent terrorist attacks. You have an idea that you would love new york, just as you liked your Cairo tour.

Well I am not a professional. But thought the interpretation could be along those lines


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posted October 26, 2004 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the thing is I never wanted to visit America. It's kind of last on my list (no offence). I would go to the Lindaland convention if I went, but I'm not planning to as yet. Maybe my subconcsious is different?

Thanks for your analysis though

Dean.

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posted October 27, 2004 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
In that case, I think you are on to something. A great change is predicted for America in coming days.

Wonder what it is about? Now I am scared. I am close to New york


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posted October 27, 2004 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hey there Dean! Welcome to Astral Realms.

I'll certainly be giving your dreams some thought today. Thanks for coming down here to share them.

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posted October 27, 2004 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ra. I've been wanting to share for a while. Especially the first one. The last one is very recent and didn't project fear at all.

IAT, I didn't feel the future of New York is threatened, it just grew enormously. The social upheaval was a good thing, I think. It was a little scary running through a city in anarchy, but it wasn't as well. It's like, the people were happy. The trains were still running. I don't think anyone was hurt. I just think it was a really weird dream. And the scy scraper skating ramp! That was weird. I used to draw huge ramps when I was a kid, and visualise skating over a city, or surfing on a tidle wave etc. They were just childish fantasies, so maybe my inner child is trying to express himself?

Heaps of Love,
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posted October 28, 2004 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
No inspiration yet Dean. I did not intend to give much thought to the first one as it just isn't speaking to me, but you are especially interested in it ... why? How did you feel in that dream? ... it has my attention now.

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posted October 28, 2004 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, one thing I understand about dreams is that they are a projection of your inner self. All of these dreams were vivid, but the first one is the one I remember the most often. I think I was scared of the Lady that got hit by the bike. Maybe it was just a movie I saw that replayed as a dream. Maybe I had astral travelled accidentally and saw it. I mean anything's possible. Don't worry is nothing comes of these dreams, I'm thinking they were just dreams.

Thanks for your thoughts though,
Dean.

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posted October 29, 2004 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
...just dreams, no such thing, in my opinion. Each of them relate to something within us, else we would not have them.

I'm not at all sure about this, but here is what I see in dream number one as a possibility from a purely symbolic point of view. I don't have all the little pieces put together (such as the little triangular cuts) but there is some sort of cohesion in general.

You would have to think back ten years ago ... what was going on in your life ... who were you ... you are getting something different than you expect (thick green liquid instead of tea). There is some sort of change happening, probably internally with perhaps some external stimulus, change which suggests emerging growth (lime green), and an increasing perspective (headed up the slope). As the required perspective is reached (at the top) something happens.

**This is where the blond woman comes in and I am not quite sure how to interpret her, so bear with me as I stumble through a preliminary explanation**

You become aware of latent energies within self through some sort of "accident" - not sure if this means you "accidentally" come upon some major insight/realization about self or if something external happens that forces you to become aware, and to act upon it. Whatever the actual cause, an awkening takes place, an awakening of your feminine aspects - creative force, receptivity, feeling/emotion, intuition, etc.

If this train of thought is anywhere near accurate (and it could be waaaaay off), then this dream represents a turning point in your development. It may not have been completely manifested at the time of the dream, and it could have taken years to complete, but the dream suggests that the turning, the awakening, began near this time. And I just realized that an intersection is a crossroads, which suggests choice, change, transition.

Any part of that make sense?

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posted October 30, 2004 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I am not sure about dream number two either, but at the very least, we can eliminate a possiblity.

Again, you would have to think back a few months ... what were you doing ... what was going on ... there is some sort of meeting or mixture of old (Cairo) and new (New York) aspects of your psyche (cities) which is causing disruption, an inner change (social upheaval). Or instead of old and new, you may have some other connection between the two - maybe religious, political, etc. - and this connection reflects the same within self.

It is suggested that some part of your intellect, reasoning, or other conscious process (statue head) has failed or been "destroyed" ... perhaps something that seemed logical (head) no longer has legs to stand on, no foundation. Whatever the case, the head is a masculine symbol, so I find it interesting that we have the "destruction" of some masculine energy/aspect and the emergence of a feminine symbol/energy/aspect - the girl.

It is also interesting that we are now entering the subconscious (subway) which is a feminine aspect as well. So, into the subconscious to revisit some issue from the past, or something forgotten, or ignored. You find an "abandoned" building ... a forgotten or ignored aspect of self that for some reason needs to communicate, to express.

Any part of this one fit yet?

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posted November 02, 2004 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I see the pattern! Wow, you are good. None of that occured to me. Maybe I am balancing out my yin and yang in someway (to rephrase that). Hmmm, I'm gonna ponder that for a while.

Thanks so much Ra,
Dean.

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posted November 02, 2004 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
You are welcome Dean, my pleasure.

You know Dean, I had forgotten that you were married a couple of months ago, and the more I look at the dream, and some of my thoughts, the more the dream resembles marriage, symbolically. Can you see what I mean? Do you thik that's possible?

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posted November 02, 2004 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yes. So, the social upheaval is my freedom. Even running around New York and Cairo could be my last stint at being free. The head is my logic and maybe a little of who I am crumbling and being carried away. There is no more need for that statue.

What do you think the massive skate ramp signifies?

I agree with the first dream assessment. That maybe I experienced many changes as I grew up and felt independent. I had freedom to walk around and purchase anything. And then maybe the woman was my mum when she was younger and the car was changes in her life that I was just noticing. She was blond as a teen.

Thanks again Ra,
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posted November 03, 2004 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I think you are beginning to see the connections. There are many.

About dream number three ... again, not sure, but here are some ideas ... First, what do you associate with NY? California? I am tempted to say they are "foriegn" aspects of your psyche, but that doesn't feel right. Perhaps 'freedom', as you mentioned? Or maybe East and West, therefore another allusion to balancing forces? I kind of lean towards opposing but complimentary energies of some kind.

Whatever they symbolize, you are "traveling" through (train) them, and incorporating (eating) them. Being on a train of this type can also suggest that the path you are on is somewhat "fixed" (track) and/or that there is a social nature to the direction of the path, people going together in a "fixed" direction ... family, friends, work mates, etc.

In your dream, being on this train does not appear to be a bad thing, as can sometimes be indicated by a "fixed" or "rigid" path. I mean, you did end up in California. And I think there could be something symbolic about going from east to west. The west symbolizes ending (sun sets in west) but also fulfillment. A cycle ended, fulfillment and a new beginning.

It could be that some part of your childhood psyche (ramps) has awakened or is active (bright beautiful day). Are you feeling like a kid again in some way?

Now, looking back at the whole, your marriage could certainly be symbolized here, but I'm sure there are also other possibilities.

What do you feel about it?

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posted November 04, 2004 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, I think I'm starting to sense that NY is technology and the future, while Califoria is fun and the past. Not in literal senses, but maybe they are metephoric - I'm moving from a place of Technology and wanting the future to understanding a need for the past. Relaxation and possibilies. I've felt like I've been waking up for a loooong time but it's a process. The train trip could further explain how I am moving towards understanding something. Like you said, I could be heading towards fulfilment. Maybe I'm telling myself that all's OK, I needn't stress too much about the future and a desire to understand nature more. I've almost finished the Conversations with God trilogy, so maybe that has something to do with the ramp too.

I had a very small dream last night where I think I was a woman. But I was actually many. I looked in a mirror and saw multiple reflections. I think they were all me, but all slightly different. I went to the bathroom and half expected to see a woman in the reflection. Do you think this has anything to do with the above theme?

Thanks for your time Ra,
Dean.

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posted November 04, 2004 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Indeed. You are many, and you are one. Reflect upon each of them, and the depth of your understanding will become multi-dimensional, many layered, full. But you cannot do this as a man, you must become the woman, you must drop the masculine nature and feel through the feminine. Logic does not work well here, but intuition and feeling excel.

Cool dream

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posted November 04, 2004 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, it was trippy. I had a question regarding dreams in general. Do they occur more often as you try to analyse them or speak of them? Maybe your subconcsious now knows you are listening, and hence talks to you more? I had another very small dream last night which I forget though.

Thanks,
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posted November 05, 2004 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
In general I think you are right. When your attention is upon it, you become more aware of it.

I'd love to hear any other dreams you may have, especially since you say that you hardly ever dream.

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posted November 05, 2004 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Well, guess what? IT HAPPENED AGAIN! I can't believe it. This is like three nights in a row since posting my first dreams.

This one was in two parts - the first was the song "Round Here" by Counting Crows blasting in my head, but only the lines "Catch me if I'm Falling, Catch me if I'm Falling, Round Here". And then then I thought "I wonder what it'd be like being in a wheelchair", then I had an accident and was in a wheel chair, only it wasn't exactly me. It was a woman I worked with - there's that femenin influence again! Well, I was looking through her eyes, and I kinda remember when I saw here once, but this time I saw me through her perspective.

I finished book three yesterday, so I'm a little sad. They are good books. If I have any more dreams, I'll share them. I just really wanted to get this one down before I forgot it.

Dean.

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posted November 06, 2004 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Very cool.

Your 'dream' is awesome. But this was not an ordinary dream (if there is such a thing), this was different ... and I'm not even sure how to describe it.

Did this dream feel different to you? But then, you do not have much to compare it to, do you? Hmmmm.

How do you feel, and what do you think about the dream?

"Catch me if I'm Falling, Catch me if I'm Falling, Round Here" ... What does that mean to you, anything? Does that song mean anything to you?

Keep 'em coming Deano.

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posted November 06, 2004 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I also find it interesting that I wrote on the 4th, "But you cannot do this as a man, you must become the woman, you must drop the masculine nature and feel through the feminine." And then on the 5th, you dream of being a woman and seeing through a woman's eyes ... you're subconscious doesn't waste any time!

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posted November 08, 2004 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yes. It was a very small dream. I think maybe it was another example of the above. I don't think the wheelchair was so symbolic as it was another experience. I'm not sure why I thought of her, but maybe because it was something I wasn't. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like. I often try to look through other peoples eyes and feel literally what they feel. Their shoes. Their clothes. I find it a fun "game". Because I also think that imagination is actually reality. Who's to say we haven't litterally been that person before? Like, right now? There's no time right? I mean, you live, then come back to the point of your birth but as someone else, so you have been them. Your imagination could be viewed as reality. Actual memories. If not that person, then they could be of a parellel universe etc.

The song is a beautiful song by an Ozzie band. I recently had them blaring in my car on the way to the coast. Maybe I was trying to understand that song more in my dream. I sense it was related to the wheelchair - maybe also a way of thinking of that girl. The thing is, I don't see people as different if they're in a wheelchair, but I always wonder if they expect me to, you know? Am I supposed to be nicer and offer to help? I don't think she was asking, merely exhanging a look like "I see you". Otherwise, I don't think there was too much more to it. The other dreams were different as they were me. I think I flew in the second one. They were also somewhere else. Whereas this one was Me being someone else here. With an Ozzie song. Hmm. I haven't had any more yet though.

Dean.

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posted November 08, 2004 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Um, OK, so I had another small one last night. I found a room with a door that led out onto a 100 metre high wave. I think I may have dreamt something similar before. Anyhow, I think I was with a couple friends I never met. I judged the wave until it was right under the door, then jumped into it. The water was so soft. I didn't have a surf board and kinda surfed bare foot down it. It was the maddest fun. Then I was on the sand planning to go up and do it again, but I ran into my mum. She was worried and didn't want me to go. I asked her if she could please find my skateboard so the wave could be better. I don't know why I didn't ask for a surfboard! I have a surfboard but don't have a skateboard. I had one, but it was a different type to the one I was asking for.

Is this one related in anyway? The feeling I felt was exhileration and awe at the size of this wave. Because it was so big, it had that dimpled quality of deep sea. I loved looking down and waiting for the perfect drop point. Mind you, I'm not a surfer in anyway. Maybe it's telling me I should get off my butt and try it again. I tried it once, but not for long.

Anyhow, thanks for listening again. BTW, my wife dreamt that I majorly cheated on her. I wonder if she's sensing my feminin dreams?

Dean.

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posted November 09, 2004 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting dream, Dean. It looks like it is about freedom and restriction. I'll give you some thoughts on it soon. (not sure about the skate/surf boards)

As for your wife's dream ... I know this one, my wife has it on occassion ... when my attention is apparently elsewhere. And if it's not attention, then it is connection ... some meaningful connection that you have with something or someone else that does not involve her. And there need not be anything "insidious" going on at all, your attention or connection is probably totally on the up-and-up, innocent. But she feels "cheated", left out. See what I mean?

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posted November 09, 2004 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I get ya. I find it ironic that I dreamt of freedom as she dreamt of our connection weakening (to rephrase somewhat incorrectly). She's been involved in typing something for work over the last week or so, so maybe she misses us just watching movies on the couch and sipping beer as we usually do. Come to think of it, we did that on Saturday. We had a Twin Peaks Marathon while I drank beer and she had kaluaha. But maybe since then she feels apart from me. I don't mind this, it's a classic gemini/pisces pattern which I'm used to. I kinda find it fun "trying" to create some freedom. Sometimes it feels restricting, but mostly in a good way. (?)

Thanks for that,
Dean.

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