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Morgan Moon
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posted December 27, 2004 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morgan Moon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there... I'm new to this site and what a discovery! Wonder if anyone can help with these dreams... I'm usually ok at interpreting my own but I'm stumped!
A few nights ago I dreamed that my partner's 4 year old nephew had died through his own choice, he just decided to go without being ill or having an accident,etc. It was as if he had given up on life, why I don't know. Me, my partner, his brother and his bro's partner (who's my close friend) were all in the family home I lived in btwn 16 and 22, and the boy was in another room. We were terrified of dealing with it,& I was crying inconsolably as if I'd lost my own child.
Second dream, last night: I was at a yoga retreat I'm going to this weekend, and three gangster-type characters trapped me. I knew they would kill me. But first, they cold-bloodedly drowned a little girl who had no idea what was about to happen to her. I watched her sink under the water and die. It was terrifying & I felt helpless.
Over the years I've had 'recurring theme' type dreams in which I'm pregnant but never give birth, have had a couple of dreams in which I had abortions, and one in which I had a little boy and girl who someone put into the boot of a car! I have fears of never being able to have children, I'm only 24 and haven't tried yet, but feel instinctively it may not be possible. ALso have Saturn retrograde in the 5th house which my astrology teacher said very often means no children or difficult children... but also thought dreams might refer to creations or new things in my life - but the theme seems to have continued for years. Any thoughts anyone? Thanks!

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posted December 27, 2004 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
There could be many possibilities for this, but I wonder if you've been struggling with any type of transformation to full-fledged adulthood. Is it possible that these children could represent parts of you? Parts that are vulnerable or misunderstood? In all of these dreams you are in the adult role, but they all result in the loss of a child that seems to be a part of you. The exception would be the little girl at the yoga resort... did you feel any connection with her? How did you feel when she died?

What was your childhood like? Was it happy or do you have negative associations with parents? If your experience has been negative, you may be having doubts as to your parenting abilities in the future.

I'm just taking guesses here. If none of this rings true you could give me more information and we could try a different angle.

Welcome to Lindaland, Morgan Moon!

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Morgan Moon
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posted December 27, 2004 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morgan Moon     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for that... the becoming an adult thing does make sense. I recently emigrated to England and have really had to start over for the first time completely on my own... so the resistance and fear of becoming a complete adult is definitely there! Big part of me still wants to run home to the safety and predictability of life there even tho I know being around my family is so bad for me... yes I mostly recall my childhood as negative I'm afraid, my parents are in fact very negative people which I'm trying so hard to move away from. I feel my mom failed to protect me from my father which, it just occurred to me, may be related to the way I felt helpless to do anything to save the children in my dreams?

I HAVE been feeling doubts about my parenting ability, esp. in relation to my partner's nephew who featured in the first dream, I find myself getting impatient or annoyed with him and then think how would i handle a child? I feel quite afraid underneath it all that I'd be a failure at it... although its something I want very much on some levels.

re. the little girl, I just felt that she was very innocent and naive and had no idea these men meant to hurt her... I felt protective of her but also helpless as I had to just watch what happened to her. Maybe it could be my fear of losing the innocence of childhood, feeling the world out there is predatory and scary...
Hmmm...

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Ra
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posted December 29, 2004 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to LindaLand, Morgan Moon

Future Uncertain hit the nail on the head. The children in your dreams are indeed aspects of self. I think you are very close to the meaning when you say ...

... yes I mostly recall my childhood as negative I'm afraid, my parents are in fact very negative people which I'm trying so hard to move away from. I feel my mom failed to protect me from my father which, it just occurred to me, may be related to the way I felt helpless to do anything to save the children in my dreams?
I HAVE been feeling doubts about my parenting ability, esp. in relation to my partner's nephew who featured in the first dream, I find myself getting impatient or annoyed with him and then think how would i handle a child? I feel quite afraid underneath it all that I'd be a failure at it... although its something I want very much on some levels.

And the little girl at the yoga retreat ... she is more than just a fear of losing childhood innocence. As I see it, she symbolizes your own terror and helplessness as a child. It could be suggested by her that you experienced some emotional trauma (water=emotions), that you were overwhelmed by emotion (drowning), and that these things were pushed into your sub/unconscious. It is this type of childhood experience that has resulted in your current issues about having children, among other things. I get the feeling of karmic forces at work as well.

What do you think?


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Morgan Moon
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posted December 29, 2004 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morgan Moon     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ra, your interpretation definitely sheds light on things.. although just talking the dreams through on this site helped to clarify it for me! i certainly was overwhelmed in childhood on an emotional level, but emotions were also not allowed to be expressed in my home, especially anger. and the yoga retreat setting makes sense now bc yoga often brings up emotions for me and i've become tearful in many a session!

When u say karmic aspects, Ra, that intrigues me... anything further on that?


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Ra
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posted December 30, 2004 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
What you said makes perfect sense. If we are correct, it is likely that you will no longer dream this recurring theme. If we are partially correct, something fundamental within the recurring theme of the dream will change. If we "don't get it", you'll have it again, in the same way, probably relatively soon.

Nothing specific about the karmic aspects. I'm not sure how energies in one life could lead to the energies of your situation, but surely there is a reason. If you can discover what it is and/or understand that it is karmic in nature, then perhaps you can overcome it.

You said, in relation to my partner's nephew who featured in the first dream, I find myself getting impatient or annoyed with him and then think how would i handle a child? I feel quite afraid underneath it all that I'd be a failure at it... although its something I want very much on some levels.

Believe me, there is a huge difference between a nephew and your own child. You will share a bond and love with your baby that can negate any fear or failure. Being annoyed or impatient with your own child is WAY different than with someone else's, for sure.


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pixelpixie
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posted December 30, 2004 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
For sure, Ra!! I was thinking the same thing, about there being a difference between your own child and others'....
You will be stretched further than you ever believed you could be.. both in love and frustration and patience. Your own child demands it, and you willingly give it. A special dance that needs no choreography.
As my mom used to say.. *and probably still does* ~ "It's a good thing you're cute!" I know what she means.

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Morgan Moon
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posted January 04, 2005 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morgan Moon     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Ra and Pixelpixie! That is comforting to know.
As a matter of interest, at the yoga retreat this past weekend I had some amazing insights into lingering issues with my father - realising that I wasn't comfortable to be myself and express my emotions when there were men in the group, and felt a huge sigh of relief when there were women only! I've always thought I was absolutely fine with men, have relationships easily, etc, but I now saw that my feelings about men are far from straightforward... interesting in the light of the 'drowning girl' dream.
I'm continuing to work on this stuff, there seems no end to it.. thanks for your insights.

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Ra
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posted January 05, 2005 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message

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