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BlueRoamer
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posted March 05, 2005 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
This leo i've been seeing for a while now broke down and told me he occasionally has extremely violent dreams. He says he dreams that he bashes someones face in until they die, i know really horrible. Any dream experts here? This guy watches a lot of horror movies, is he seriously ****** up, or is this just a sign of repessed rage. Hes the kind of person who represses negative feelings and always keeps a "positive" attitude, I think hes denying all his negative feelings and they're emerging in his dreams...is this a sign of someone dangerous, or am i overreatcing?

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pidaua
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posted March 05, 2005 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Is he trying to hide a facet of his personality? The face contains the eyes, which sees everything.

Most killers that know their victims will try to cover their faces during and after the commission of the crime..because they don't want to be seen (not in the sense that they will be recognized but in the sense that the person will see into their soul).

Does your friend dreams of hurting those he knows, loves or are they strangers? Are they people that are trying to hurt him so he retaliates?

He may also be trying to "blind" an aspect of his personality. Is he having problems at home, work..etc..or is he repressing some emotions (not just rage) maybe he is hurting over some traumatic event and that face represents the hurt that he is still trying to "beat down"?

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 05, 2005 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
I htink he definitely has some repressed rage, for sure....hes mexican and takes a lot of issues with that, he thinks hes stupid because hes mexican etc even though hes college educated.....he almost sounded like he sorta has some repressed traumatic event that hes trying to remember, but can't....it might just be too many horror movies though....

He has a TIGHT mars pluto conjunction tho, which kinda scares me.....i don't really liek that aspect at all

The face/eyes thing is very insightful, i really wonder if theres some traumatic event represed there.......pid, i was hoping you would post some useful information, thanks i really appreciate it

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pixelpixie
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posted March 05, 2005 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
oh, get a room!

Just basking in the (if not love, ) happy helpful vibe you two are expressing to each other lately.

Awwwwww.. *matronly aunt voice*
" Oh, my bupkins, c'mere, and gimme a hug... aaaawwwwww, I'm so proud. "
Crushes you both to an ample busom ( I wish) that smells strongly of Chloe and WhiteDiamonds, wrapping her abundant jewel dripping fingers around you both, crushing your sides extremely close to your breasts. er.. Pid's breasts. Blue's beefy bulking chest (*ahem, right, right?)

Ack.. I had a relative like that.. back when I was shall we say, developing early... she hugged me tight, then pulled back to get a look at me, hands firmly and uncomfortably cusping my already developed upper naughty bits. I wouldn't call it my ribs, exactly.. she was def. copping a feel.*I was a bit oddly proud, actually... After which she said " Oh my, how you are growing!" I only visited them once.

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pixelpixie
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posted March 05, 2005 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Er.... sorry.. blah blah blah.
Um.. I don't know what to say about your friend. Listen to him, help him, who really knows what goes on with anyone....
And besides.. keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Just don't let their bad vibes and internal battles dictate your life. Not that I think You would... I think I said that for me.

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pidaua
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posted March 06, 2005 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
ewwwwwwwwwwwww...she touched your naughty bits...ewwwwwww...

LOL..I think that BR and I are just getting through that Sag stage kind of thing. I think that when it comes to helping someone, we have to look beyond our differences. Yeah, BR and I have our issues, but deep down I think our intent is to help people as much as we can.

BR..I think your friend may also be going through what most minorities do when we realize that the world is different and we are different. We have one of two choices when we come to that crossroad. 1) we either embrace it, realize we are different and make a conscious effort to just be true to ourselves and NOT see our color / race as an issue or 2) We fall into that well of despair and blame everyone for our own inferiority complex.

Mine came about when I was in college. I opted to transfer up to Portland, OR to a sister Univ because the bio curriculum was harder and they would make me take Chemistry as a minor. My dad tried to discourage me, see he already knew the issues I would face, but I wanted the challenge. I had no idea that I would be in a vastly different environment. What made it so hard, even in a diverse place like Portland, was that I attended a private university that recruited our athletes from small towns in the Northwest.

They were not prepared for a minority female that spoke her mind and didn't play into their stereotypes. I was called a stupid Indian and told to go back to my Reservation. I was called a dirty Mexican (and other hispanic derogatory names) and told that they paid for my education. LOL.. Finally, I had enough turned on them and told them "Say what you want you inbred little fools, because while I am conducting research you will be sitting on your delapidated porch drinking busch beer and asking your toothless wife for your turkey pot pie".

Then I reported the little twirps. I was pretty much hated that year and I wanted to go back to Orange County, Cali. I asked my dad why I had to go through this..and he said 'Honey, I tried to warn you..but now you are there, either you prove them wrong and you hold your head up high..or you prove them right and run away". I stayed..for 3 years- finished with 2 degrees, even when I had to sit through a few classes where the lecture was on minorities NOT finishing high school..let alone college..LOL..everyone turned and looked at me LOL..

But one has to take it in stride. I can't change everyone, but I can make changes.

Your friend is at that crossroad right now..he has to choose whether he wants to be seen as a dumb Mexican or just a Mexican human being that is college educated and on the same path as everyone else.

He can either use that Mars Pluto conjunction to tear down walls and cause some major constructive changes or he can let it do him in... if you want to help him talk to him about his aspects and his planets. Remind him that HE IS A LEO (they love to hear that) that he is a leader and can use that Mars-Pluto energy for something wonderful..

You're a Sag..a Leo will listen..just do it gently..pull out that thorn and he will turn over, show you his belly and listen


~Pidaua...

Expert Lion-tamer hee hee

Besides..if a good ole belly rub doesn't work..shoot him in the behind with an arrow..that will get him going

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 06, 2005 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Pix: Thanks for mentioning my massive hulking chest...its just so true!! You can rub it any time baby...or we can rub chests together

Pid: I appreciate the story, ya know, I don't think its like that anymore in portland, theres a lot more hispanics and asians there nowadays.....did you go to lewis and clark, reed???

Unfortunately Leo has a Taurus moon and is stubborn as molasses, he doesn't like astrology, you'd think he woudl cause it talks all about HIM...but I havent given him a full on reading yet, maybe he'd like that. At any rate, I wish I coudl solve his race issues with a mere belly rub, but I think its more deeply ingrained. As for shooting an arrow in his behind, well thats really suggestive and quite perverse, but only in my and maybe pixies mind. It's true though, leos will bow down for a second to the wisdom of a saggitarius but not most other signs...I'm surprised when even the cockiest of leos will listen to me and take me extremely seriously, when they seem to mock everyoen else. But man do I know how to keep a Leos ego fed, I just gotta watch the occasional verbal slip, thanks! =)

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pidaua
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posted March 06, 2005 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
OMG!!! I didn't EVEN think of it that way..LOL...I was more thinking metaphorically...because we have arrows...hee hee..and most Leo's have nice behinds..Oh..man I am soooo blushing..

Nah, Portland is still like that..you just have to know where to look. I lived there for 5 years and worked in NW side of town and attended Concordia in the NE side of town, which was very ethnic.

Oregon itself is a very odd state- I had a lot of business clients in that state that kept bringing me back even after leaving in 1996. Eugene, Salem and PDX may be more open minded---but you still are surrounded by the hee haw's in Southern, Eastern and even Western OR. They still HATE Californian's and despise Easterners even more. American Indians are still dirt as far as they are concerned. There are still fights over fishing rights, water rights and of course the Casino's.

The state that was the most open to me and more racially tolerant..will you believe this....IDAHO..LOL...I never had even a weird look in that state and I traveled all over from eastern ID to Northern (Sandpoint, Couer d'Alene) down to Boise.


You'll find that people can be racial no matter where they are. In North Carolina I was treated like a queen, they don't have many American Indian's out there..and even though I am hispanic / white, I LOOK more AI than anything. The people out there were very nice, open and kind of gushed over me..which was cool. In New Jersey I had a couple of really nice thug Italians tell me that their people killed all mine and sent us packing..In Nebraska they looked like at me like someone pooped me out..LOL.. In Maryland I had many people ask me what I was- from all races, because I didn't look Black, White, Puerto Rican, Guatamalen..etc.. I didn't fit into the local hispanic culture, as far as looks.

This state is also kind of odd..it fought for the South during the Civil War, had it battles against Indians, but is still even about acceptance.

Texas is great- people there are very open (which you wouldn't think) actually, the real hispanic culture is more closed to me being a "coconut" than anything else. I was treated VERY well by the older white cowboys and hit on by the young white cowboys..LOL..funny, you see ALOT of mixed marriages in that state- like where I came from in So. Cal.

I am not sure where you live -so I can't really say if I have had any experiences there LOL....

Oh and here's a tip....

When one says "There aren't many people like me or there aren't very many minorities out here" They almost always mean of their own culture. Telling someone "There are a lot of asians there now" means nothing if that person is black or American Indian..etc...LOL..

My Virgo ex said that once to me when I was in Annapolis for a few months he said "Well, honey how do you like the east coast so far/"

I said "It's great, this town reminds me alot of Newport beach..but there aren't many people like me around here".

He said "Oh we have Hispanics..from El Salvador here". LMAO...

I was like NOOOOOOO..that is different...WE are different..there is a HUGE difference between Mexican, Spanish, Puerto Rican..etc... we have different foods, music..etc..

anyway, he meant well

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 06, 2005 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely understand the subtle differences between minorities, but I woudl assume among the white population, that presence of some minorities woudl breed tolerance of minorities in general, but maybe not! I thought portland seemed fairly liberal, but I guess its still mostly white.

Being gay I can definitely empathize with being a minority, but I also understand that I have it easy, being a white male, and I can hide the fact that I'm a minority. Sometimes people suspect but its not as obvious as having dark skin. Still though, I have been treated differently and badly so I can empathize. I actually have a lot of built up prejudice against gay people, I see them as superficial, materialistic, judgemental, and promiscuous, but they aren't all like that. I guess I have a bit of that self loathing minorityness going on....

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pidaua
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posted March 06, 2005 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm..well, I think that everyone has their issues. I grew up in Laguna Hills, near Laguna Beach. So I am comfortable with the gay culture. I have had many gay male friends throughout my life- some didn't even know they were LOL...

I just have always tried to get past that aspect of a person, whether it is their color, sexual orientation or religion.

I do understand though what you mean about a bit of self-loathing..I get tired of people of my own race crying and whining that we are owed..For what? We can't change the past..but we can make changes right? Do we have to be so "in your face" to everyone we meet as if everyone is a foe and not a friend?

So, yeah BR..I understand You're cool

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 07, 2005 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I really dislike the whole "we're here we're queer" thing, I think it just furthers the stereotype and creates more prejudice...I notice that although asians are a minority, there is comparitively less prejudice agianst them, and I wonder if its because they are better at blending in.

Anyway, I was wondering if you or PIx coudl do a quick tarot reading on my leo, I can't stop agonizing about it, yes i'm freaking out about men....I guess I'm hung up, I want a relationship, I don' tthink he does, but I can't get over it cause hes not either....aaaaaaaah plz help

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pidaua
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posted March 08, 2005 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hey BR...I will look into your cards once the New moon as passed (Sun in Pisces / Moon in Taurus works for me) I try to stay away from the NM vibration...and Aries moon (which is my own natal moon position) I am usually too hyper to read anything let alone meditate with cards .

I will let you know soon

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 10, 2005 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks pid, I'm actually trying to end things with the Leo.....I had a really ugly conversation with him, where again my ability to incite peoples anger without trying prevailed. I suggested maybe we just weren't meant to be a couple, and he got REAL nasty, threatened me etc.....then he called me today and was all mushy/nice, I don't think hes getting the message yet. He ended the conversation with what sounded like "i loo" and then he stopped, this scares me. Why couldn't he be affectionate when i was actually interested in him? Now that he thinks hes in danger hes all over me....I guess men are like this for reproductive reasons.

Should I just be blunt and end it? I dont' konw what to do....I know we aren't right for eachother, but the physical chemistry makes it hard for me to get over , especially because hes not. But this whole violence thing has me a bit spooked.

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pidaua
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posted March 10, 2005 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
BR...

Please don't think you are this mean person that always incites people to anger. You are just a young Archer and with time will learn tact..(I did....hee hee..well, sometimes I still dine on filet of sole..hee hee).

Okay...well, the problem is male and Leo..When Leo's feel their prize may be taken away, that wakes them from their complacency. Then they roar into action..almost all men will be protective like that...almost sleepy on one hand until their object of desire may possibly be taken away or leave...then they jump in full force.

The best way to end it with a Leo is to just say 'I'm done. You are too much for me (make it more about them) and that I don't think I will make you happy in the long run".

That appeals to their self-centered nature and allows you an out. If he keeps pushing, tell him you have thought it out and this is the only solution. Wish him luck (don't offer to stay his friend, I fear this one is a bit of a nutbar).

How dangerous is this person to you? Do you see him as a stalker? Has he really hurt anyone in the past? If it gets too hostile, let him know that you are able to get a restraining order (if he leaves any threatening voicemails, e-mails..etc.. KEEP them. You will need them should you have to get that restraining order and you may also be able to get him for harrassment).

It may also be all huff and bluff...Leo's are good at that..but then they stop before acting on it. Not like a Scorp..they won't even let you know until you feel the sharp pain in you tender areas LOL..

sorry..not funny...

Please let me know how things are going..I wouldn't want to see a hurt Archer.

Take care..

Love and Light

~Pidaua

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 10, 2005 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
I'll let you know if i get murdered......ok bad joke. Thanks for the insights, interestingly he has a restraining order against some guy in his past, and I don't think hes ever harmed anyone, he seems like something of a wussy to me...so yes I think its all huff and puff. But he is pretty big so if he wanted to clobber me he might be able to.

Anywho, I know i need to be blunt, but Its so much easier to just squirm out of it with apathy and unresponsiveness, although I know this isn't what I should do. Seriously though, its time to move on, I initiated a break over a month ago, and we're both still hanging on emotional, needs to stop. By the by, how are things with taurus man

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pidaua
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posted March 10, 2005 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi BR...

Yeah..bad joke LOL....I will still look at the cards for you..to see how the Leo figures into your life or what to expect regarding him / his actions.


Mr. Taurus is going through a rough time right now (I wrote about it in my latest AR thread about connections to those departed).

It is even more compounded by the fact that he is so far from home, and this is where he likes to be. It is just a storm we need to weather and I hope it just makes us stronger.

How else are things going for you? I love that Spring comes early to AZ..no wonder I missed the west so much ( I used to live in Annapolis, MD). I replanted my garden, this time with better soil and steer manure LOL...otherwise known as bullshiite..LOL... my flowers are going beautifully and with the warm weather, I could smell the jasmine from the open window while I worked on the computer.

Take care and I will talk to you soon!!!

~Pidaua

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 11, 2005 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
The spring is here (i think) in southern california too, and the warmth feels great!! Its been such a rainy season here, more like a northwest than a southwest winter, I bet the wildflowers are starting out there in AZ...gorgeous

I read the post about your dreams...when I read about the flowers, the planting of seeds, the fertility....I got a strange intuition that she wants you to have a child...or that you want to have a child, at least subconsciously. This girl may not literally be her contacting you, but an aspect of yourself trying to speak to you. I dont' know much about you personally, if you even want children or able to, but thats the message that i received from this dream...she wants, or wahtever part of you that she represents, wants a child

Creepy final abstract thought, maybe shes future soul of your child or someone elses child

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