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Nephthys
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posted April 23, 2005 10:41 PM
 
For the past 2 weeks I've been sleeping pretty hard and having very vivid, real, long-lasting dreams.The other night, I had a dream that I was with a group of people and we were going to my old apartment where I used to live. I said to myself, "eeewww, I have to live in my old apartment?" Well on the outside, it looked the same but on the inside it looked different. Anyhow, when I walked inside, the phone rang. It was a black phone, the type that would be in a business office. I amswered the phone and it was my friend Kandace: Jovette: "hello"
Kandace: "Hi Jovette"
Jovette: "Hi"
Kandace: she was talking but I don't remember exact specifics
Jovette: "Kandace? Uhm, this might sound kind of weird, but I know I'm having a dream right now. Uhm.....what is the date and the year?"
Kandace: "That is weird. It's twenty-thirty"
Jovette: "what? You mean the year 2030????"
Kandace: "yeah"
Jovette: "that is so weird. what's the date"
Kandace: "December 7th" I was dumbfounded. Here I was having a dream, talking to Kandace as if it was normal life, telling her that I know I am dreaming, and her telling me that it's 15 years in the future???????? What in the heck does that mean????? WOW  just wanted to share.   IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 24, 2005 01:30 AM
Visions of futures past! Precog or future
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Nephthys
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posted April 24, 2005 10:06 PM
Hi Fay,What do you mean by futures past, and dream sharing?  just curious! the strange thing, is if it was in the future, nothing (furniture, structures, etc.) seemed very advanced. I mean, everything was still modernized to 2005. IP: Logged |
Gia
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posted April 25, 2005 12:10 PM
I dreamt the date of my passing last week. It was a wee bit of a shock not because I'm afraid but because the dream was not expected. It was an exact day, month and year. Anyone else had that?  Gia IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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posted April 25, 2005 08:25 PM
Gia,WOW! If you don't mind me asking, how did you pass? Was it a reasonable age to pass?
I was wondering what the significance of my date is, like what's going to happen......... IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 25, 2005 10:07 PM
Nephthys!
I have had dreams of the future, and shared them (in person with the person or persons who were in the dream). I get dates too. Then days, weeks, months, years, or even decades later....I find myself with the person or persons and deja vu! As far as things around looking the same, could be a mind glitch, or things will look that way. What is more fun is when the other person/persons shared the same dream or a variation of it. Then when the dream does come true it is even more deja deja vu!
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Gia
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posted April 25, 2005 11:44 PM
That's the weird thing. I only saw a date and my details. My name, birth, other date etc. I have no idea how it happened. I've never heard of anyone dreaming their own passing before. I'd love to know if anyone else has.I had a weird one last night. It was so vivid it woke me up. I dreamt about a girl called Sarah who was self mutilating. I watched as her husband tried to stop her. I was in the room unseen by them and I kept mentally pleading with her over and over again not to do it. I was mentally shouting STOP! in my head. It was so loud it made my mind hurt. In the end she stopped short of really hurting herself, but she was still bleeding through her dress. I was very upset. Somebody kept telling me I did good. I didn't do good enough cause she was bleeding. I felt guilty, then I woke up. Gia IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 26, 2005 12:05 AM
I've dreamt of passing many times. Sometimes it seems to be a past life memory, other times a warning of a probabilty if I do not do something to avert it happening as dreamt. The one time I ignored it, I was struck by a car, just as was in the dream. I did the NDE thing, and came back. I still live with physical damage and a constant reminder to never ignore my dreams, especially those kind. That case happened 32 years ago on Easter Sunday morning. IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted April 26, 2005 04:17 AM
Gia, I am inclined to believe that your dream was symbolic, as was Jovette's. It is very rare to dream of a death directly - almost always it will be symbolized. Of course there are exceptions, as fayte pointed out, but dreaming of death, especially your own, is nearly always symbolic of an ending of some aspect of self. The numbers, when specified, can usually be broken down numerologically to shed light upon the processes involved. And as fayte also pointed out, even if it were the rare exception, you can change it. Hello Nephthys  I haven't really looked at your dream in detail yet, but maybe a few possibilities ... it could be suggested that you are currently experiencing an internal conflict of some kind, a struggle between opposites maybe, or some kind of decision/choice (past 2 weeks/vivid dreams). It seems that perhaps you are dealing with some old energies, or an old life pattern of some kind (old apartment), appearing the same on the surface (same outside), but different because you are different "inside" now than you were then. You have moved on from this old energy/pattern, but have unconsciously held onto some part of it, taking it into the "future". This is a communication from your unconscious (phone/black) directly to your conscious awareness (know you are dreaming), and it is encoded within the numbers. I'm not sure how you, personally, would break the numbers down ... Linda's definitions and methods could certainly be applied in your case ... but there is probably at least an underlying, basic, meaning. 2030 - 5 - nearing completion. 12 - 3 - activity, completion of minor cycle, manifestation. 7 - spiritual forces, completion of larger cycle. It could be that you are not quite yet acknowledging something that you "brought with you" from that past, but that it has been recently brought back up, into your thoughts or life somehow, and that you can choose whether to continue to ignore it, or to "wake up" and complete the cycle you are in, which in turn will give way to a greater cycle of spiritual awakening. Woah, were did that come from? Well, does any of that strike a chord with you? IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 26, 2005 09:17 AM
Ra! I enjoy reading your replies! It is sometimes difficult to know when a dream is precog or symbolic. For me, the clearer the dream is, the more real, then it is usually precog. When it comes in symbolic, that is when it gets confusing;hard to tell precog from symbolic or something happening right then, like natural disasters or telepathic in dream sharing. True, to dream of death is usually symbolic. For most people the concept of death represents the unavoidable
changes. Or the need for change. Death=Change
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Gia
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posted April 26, 2005 11:36 AM
I agree with Faye on that Ra and I'll explain why.I'm a very lucid dreamer and always have been. The way I dream and the feeling I get whilst dreaming, normally indicates if the dream is preg or not. This kind of dream seems more alive, very detailed and very, very, vivid. I have dreamt them many times before but never anything like this. Like faye I dream accidents. I dreamt a friends plane going down and it did. Luckily he was badly injured but not killed. I dreamt about a local boy that drowned in his pool. He did.
Symbolically it would be an ending, I agree or possibly a transition of some kind.
I think my dream was pregog however much I wish it were not so. I'm not scared about it but I would be a liar if I didn't say I wished to live just a tad longer. I saw it on my grave stone. I don't believe you can change your death at all. I think it's predetermined, in fact I'm certain of it. Then I again I don't believe in death so I'm cool about it. The number when broken down is an 8. If you have comments about that please share. Oh my birth number or life number is a 9. How strange is that. I guess I'm going backwards to go forward. Life review? Gosh I've no idea...I'm just guessing. Gia IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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posted April 26, 2005 11:44 AM
Ra, Wow you are a BRAIN!!!
A lot of that makes sense. I have had a lot of changes for the better this year. I was thinking of combining the #'s: 12+7+5 (2030=5) and I got 24=6. In Betty Bethard's Dream Book, 6 means;
Guidance, White Brotherhood (teachers of truth), six pointed star symbolizing perfect balance of man, three chakras above heart center and three below heart center.
Also, due to a health condition, I made a lot of dietary changes in the past 2 weeks so I think that has enabled me to sleep better and thus have more memorable, vivid dreams.
Gia and Fay,
Very interesting!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 26, 2005 02:07 PM
Ok...The following does seem to make a difference on interpretation of one dying in a dream.
1. are you experiencing it from insde your body, not seeing yourself? Only seeing around you?
2.Or are you seeing yourself as it happens like in a movie?
3. Once you have died, do you see your body?
4.are you precogging an OBE you are going to have, or an NDE?
5. Just because you see your obit and or tombstone doesn't mean death. Witness protection, a prank, or a paperwork screwup?
By paperwork or computer error, I meant that you have been officially listed as deceased! But you are still very much in body!
That happened to me! Imagine getting a letter telling your next of kin, that your accounts etc. have been frozen etc. due to your demise, and they even give the time of the supposed death and the agencies that were notified! What a mess that was! At least it got straightened out, but I had to actually prove I was/am still alive and really me! So dreams can be very hard to decipher. Especially seeing or experiencing ones own death in the dreamscape enviroment.IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted April 26, 2005 02:18 PM
Gia, I understand. So you are one of the exceptions. I suppose that shouldn't surprise me too much, as LindaLand has more than it's share of exceptions to the "rules".  A very good thing. I would still disagree with you on predetermination, however.  Hey Nephthys Glad you got something from that. Looks like maybe you will be/are doing some extra spiritual exploring. Well this is a '7' year, a year for spiritual activity, so there you go, you are getting in tune, your unconscious has placed the call.  IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted April 26, 2005 02:24 PM
Hi Fayte Great thoughts. 
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Gia
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posted April 27, 2005 02:06 AM
I felt that my body was gone and I had no further interest in it at all. None. I was totally out of it. I saw my family and friends, but I not only saw them, I knew what they were thinking and feeling at every moment. I know people may not agree with me but no death is mistake, however accidental it may seem. When your time is up, then it's up. Sorry! Odd to me why everyone seems so afraid of it to the point of denial almost. There is no death. We all are already immortals. Life is viewed as happy and light and death as sad and dark. Death is full of shadows only because we refuse to look at it closely. It's a fear imposed on us, by us, a trap so that we focus on the material and not on that thing inside of us. We are body snatchers you know. True immortality comes when you marry the two. Combine them. Life + Death and learn that there are no more shadows. The only thing then that remains is full light. Full SONLIGHT.
Gia
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Gia
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posted April 27, 2005 10:35 AM
I wanted to say that I do believe it's possible to spiral. I know it's possible to keep your body from aging and becoming decayed. I think it's totally possible because I have managed it. People normally think I'm around 29 or 30 when in fact I'm in my latter 40's. I don't think Linda was detailed enough about how to achieve that though. I'm sure it's because Linda felt we needed to do some of the work our own. She has left us great pointers and clues.If you don't transitition from age then you will transitition in another way. Through sickness like Linda, or through another method such as an accident. Your birth into this world was predetermined and your birth in the next has also been predetermined, for in truth, there is no time or age. No past, present or future, it's all the ETERNAL NOW. Think about it. If that was not the case we would never be able to predict anything by any method. All our so called oracles such as astrological codes, or future predictions, or precog dreams would not be possible. We would not be able to find predetermined deaths, births or events. Not in Bible codes, astrological charts, numerology, no 911 codes Faye, no nothing. Why? because it would be a chaotic universe and we all know it's not. Gia IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 27, 2005 10:56 AM
The fear of physical death, I believe may well be the main reason we forget our past lives. As for Regeneration or aging slowly or backwards. This is something I understand. I still have some things to work on, but to the bafflement of drs., who call me an enigma, I have been able to reverse/eliminate some minor and serious problems, that according to "the facts", should have been impossible. I too am told I do not look my age. I am over 50 and my husband is a normal to youngish looking 35 year old; and no one has mistaken me for his mother, even though I am old enough to be.
Some of it is common sense practices, no tanning, and LOTS of veggies! It's funny, but when I was in my teens and twentys, I was taken for being 5 to 15 years older. Now it's the reverse! Mind over body works! Somewhere in our evolution we lost our regenerative abilities. This does not mean that physical death can be avoided,(or can it?) but one could live longer and appear or feel healthier or younger longer. The frog is a good example.It can regenerate new limbs. It still eventually passes through physical death, but while alive, it's cells "remember". Why can't we?   IP: Logged |
Gia
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posted April 27, 2005 11:12 AM
I believe some us do and all of us will. Gia IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 27, 2005 11:15 AM
Gia I agree! And for everyone?..In time...in time...  IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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posted April 27, 2005 12:17 PM
In Betty Bethard's Dream book, death does symbolize letting go of something old, and making way for new beginnings.
It does sound like Gia's dream was in fact about her death, though!!
I totally agree what you said, Gia, about not being afraid to die. I am not afraid either. I totally agree with what Gia said here:
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I felt that my body was gone and I had no further interest in it at all. None.
I was totally out of it. I saw my family and friends, but I not only saw them, I knew what they were thinking and feeling at every moment. I know people may not agree with me but no death is mistake, however accidental it may seem. When your time is up, then it's up. Sorry! Odd to me why everyone seems so afraid of it to the point of denial almost. There is no death. We all are already immortals. Life is viewed as happy and light and death as sad and dark. Death is full of shadows only because we refuse to look at it closely. It's a fear imposed on us, by us, a trap so that we focus on the material and not on that thing inside of us. We are body snatchers you know. True immortality comes when you marry the two. Combine them. Life + Death and learn that there are no more shadows. The only thing then that remains is full light. Full SONLIGHT.
I think the Spirit World is more beautiful than we can imagine, and anything you create there is instantaneous. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 27, 2005 12:32 PM
It is quite dynamic!!! IP: Logged | |
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