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Devilfish
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posted January 19, 2006 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
Good morning Ra. hope you are enjoying your day.
ive been reading /learning & have some thoughts to post/share when i get some additional time meanwhile i had a dream last night/this morning that id like your opinion on............

im standing in an ocean looking at a small army green boat sitting half on shore half in water(the boat is in front of me to my left) there is a man standing in the boat with an oar in his left hand and a baby goat held in his right arm.
a deep mans voice says from behind me in the sky (talking to the man in the boat)that goat is useless it cant produce milk.the man in the boat puts the white baby goat into the water to drown.i go to the baby goat , i pull him out i tap on his back to get the water out of his lungs & he coughs up a small red ball,which i throw in the water.i say," he's not useless". the man in the boat is kneeling/leaning over the side of boat watching i can feel his relief that the goat is okay.i feel he agrees with me. i am very calm, i smile at the goat and pet him(he's a sweet goat)as i walk thru the water carrying him to the shore.
any thoughts?TIA

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Ra
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posted January 20, 2006 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Devilfish

I'm working on it. What do you think the baby goat means? Goats can symbolize nurturing (especially when related to milk), sacrifice, fertility ... what does a goat mean to you? It could even symbolize a Capricorn. Because it's a baby, it would seem that whatever the goat represents is new/innocent (especially considering the white), maybe immature or undeveloped/young, or perhaps even helpless. Does any of this strike a chord? (or are you more confused? )

And what about this small red ball ... what did that mean to you at the time you were dreaming?

Be back soon.

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Peri
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posted January 20, 2006 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
That’s amazing Tia! because I had a similar dream about 6 or 7 years ago (I still remember it though). The dream was about a baby goat too! Here it is:

Me and other people (I didn’t know any of them) found ourselves in a huge marble hall, it was all white, no doors, no windows, no furniture, nothing;

We were looking around surprised, trying to find out what it all meant. Suddenly the water started flowing in through tiny holes in the walls. There were so many of them that the echo produced by water jets sounded like the waterfall's roar! We could hardly hear each other. The hall was really huge but despite this the water came up to our ankles incredibly soon.

Someone said: we gonna die here! There’s no way out!
And then we heard the voice: There is a way out! You just have to find it! If you don’t you all will drown in half and hour. The voice was very soft and yet we could perfectly hear it because the roar did not seem to deafen it at all.

Suddenly we all saw an old man; he was very old and looked like a wizard or so. Actually it wasn’t a real man but a ghost because we could see walls and floor through him. As soon as he uttered these words, he dispersed.

We were running around the hall like crazy trying to find that secret button that will stop the water flowing in. The water was running really fast when suddenly someone noticed a black baby goat chained to the floor.
Some rushed to save it when others shouted: Are you crazy? Why waste precious time and save it? All of us will die here! Use the time we still have to try and find the way out!

Then someone came out and said: If we are to die here, then it is the way it should be and we will BUT we will die all together! I cannot watch this poor little baby goat die! Can you?!

We rushed to the baby goat and pulled out the chain from the floor, setting the poor thing free. As soon as we did, the whole wall fell off ……and that was the way out! the secret mechanism!

Astounded, we came out and saw that we were on a beautiful island, the ocean was immense and calm and the sky was so clear ..
It all felt like a miracle… we were saved!

I think our dreams are very similar and they represent the eternal battle between profit motives and unselfishness = the good and the bad. (in your dream: ‘goat is useless it cant produce milk’, in mine: ‘why save it if it does not help us’)

I could never understand why a baby goat? Is it because in astrology the Goat is the symbol of Capricorn which is ruled by Saturn, the planet of Karma?
Does this mean that a true compassion and care will set us free from our Karma? Is this the way out from pain, spiritual death and suffering?
I think it is.

What do you think?
Ra, I'd like to know your opinion too

P.S. Is there something that made you feel good about the choice you had made, Tia?

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Devilfish
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posted January 23, 2006 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
Im so sorry its taking me so long to respond.
i responded last week but for some reason it would not post.right now im so swamped all i can do is thank you both for your insights and tell ya that ill respond asap(i got a family crisis goin on).thank you for both your patience and understanding

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Peri
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posted January 23, 2006 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
No need to hurry, sweety

Love and light to you

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Ra
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posted January 24, 2006 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
No hurry

One more question ... Is/was your biological father in your life?

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Devilfish
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posted January 29, 2006 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
oh my what an exhausting week.
death,seperation, change, aggression, strength
that sums up my emotional week load.
so much is happening .......
i have a capricorn moon & right now its conjuncting transiting pluto, which squares natal pluto and that is opposing my natal saturn.
im also dealing with capricorns in my family.
Ra .. you asked about my father, things are actually peaceful between us currently.
but i married into a family with five boys/brothers, very manly men.they have a family business(capricorn) and there are some major changes taking place within it.my husband just took over the whole thing after being asked to by the others.husband is a very intense strong moral man.no cake walk of a boss.at the same time, there are some personal family probelms being brought to light..........its like my husband and i are trying to help our loved ones see that they are responsible for their reality(hubbys role) and in order to make this reality what they want they have to love themselves(my role).i think that sums up the dream, huh?

Peri you said :
I think our dreams are very similar and they represent the eternal battle between profit motives and unselfishness = the good and the bad. (in your dream: ‘goat is useless it cant produce milk’, in mine: ‘why save it if it does not help us’)I could never understand why a baby goat? Is it because in astrology the Goat is the symbol of Capricorn which is ruled by Saturn, the planet of Karma?
Does this mean that a true compassion and care will set us free from our Karma? Is this the way out from pain, spiritual death and suffering?
I think it is."

BINGO!i think it is to!

other interesting dreams in the last couple of weeks include precog. dreams of:
an attempted abduction at my kids school.
a wreck that killed six people who are connected with my family.
an exposing of a family members neg intentions.
im seeing a pattern in my precog. dreams.
this may also interest you Peri in reference to your deja vu.
ill start a new thread on this soon.
Thank you both for your insights, and for just being here letting me vent.
the refining fires keep burning .oh, that i may rise as a glorious phoenix bird after my ego reduces to ash.This is my hope.

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Ra
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posted January 30, 2006 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message

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