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Devilfish
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posted January 31, 2006 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
wanted to write some thoughts ive been pulling together regarding my own experiences with precog. dreaming.
after hearing some basic quantum physics ive been thinking of the following:
if we are mainly made up of space (atoms are empty space with only a nucleus, which upon close inspection happens to be another atom) and our reality of matter is only an interconnectedness of probablities(the atoms linking to form a reality),then i am thinking our bodies are like energies recepters and conductors.so the more in tune you become to specfic energies and recognize them, the more your are able to sense the probablities of reality.........(see the future).
now, the beauty of this is, since our dreams are only probablities, then if we see something that is undesirable we can identify the energies at play and consciencly reroute them to bring about a more desired result....that way we are using the energy instead of the energy using us.which means
this is our divinity, to manifest.
any thoughts?

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Philbird
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posted January 31, 2006 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing profound here, but I agree with you.
I try to keep in mind that every personality in our dreams is also an aspect of our soul. Tyring to communicate a message to us.

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Ra
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posted February 01, 2006 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Devilfish, I would say you are absolutely right! And that is a great way of analyzing it. Makes sense to me!

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Betelgeuse
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posted February 01, 2006 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betelgeuse     Edit/Delete Message
Oh this idea is a plethora of the profound!

Absolutely right Devilfish, its an incredible fact, but true nonetheless - our 'physical/material' bodies are composed predominantly of space! Each atom could be compared to that of a minscule solar system, with the nucleus representing the sun, and the electrons representing the planets in orbit. But the vast majority of its structure is just like our solar system - empty space.

I have contemplated the same idea you have suggested here Devilfish - our bodies being energy receptors. And its very interesting that you have tied this in to precognitive dreaming. I'll come to that in a second.

First of all, you have commented on being in tune with specific energies. Well, each particle can exist in differing quantum states, it is even possible for 2 particles to exist in the eact SAME space, but they resonate of different frequencies.
Quantum physics has long been trying to equate a thoery that would unify all energy, this is known as the Grand Unified Theory, or the Theory of Everything. The problem they encounter generally, is that gravity is a far weaker force in the particle world than it is in the cosmological larger universe. Further to say, gravity is SO weak on a particle scale, that if all the energy was to be unified - the electro-magnetic, weak nuclear, strong nuclear, gravitaional forces - then the following would have to occur... The gravitational and weak nuclear forces would have to increase their vibrational strength/intensity, and the elctro-magnetic and strong nuclear forces would have to decrease their vibrational strength/intensity (or the gravitational/weak nuclear could increase whilst ectro magnetic/strong nuclear remain stagnent).

Many have pondered on what would actually happen if energy were to unite in this way. And this is a big deal we are talking about, this would mean there are no oppositions, no polarisations, no negative and positive - energy would be truly balanced as ONE. Many propose that the particles would behave in different ways, that our creative power would be unleashed, that there would no longer be any resistance. How can I explain it - okay, imagine Love in its purest form - yielding, giving, creative, magnaminous - this is a similar concept.

Another offshott of this united energy would be the time and space principle. Time and space would no longer exist in quite the same way, if at all! As energy vibrates on ever higher frequencies, time and space are irrevocably effected - Im sure you have all heard of the myth suggesting if we were to travel faster than the speed of light, then we would travel backwards in time. Well technically, we wouldnt travel backwards in time, its just that time would actually slow down for us in relation to the lower vibrational universe, but it would stay constant in relation to its own vibrations.

So, this applies to your idea of precognitive dreaming, and your thoughts on becoming more attuned to specific energies will allow us more mastery and creative prowess for future events. I completely agree with you. This is one of the reasons I practise chakra meditation (theres a thread on it in astrology). If we become more attuned to our own bodies energies, and the energy recieved via external sources (everything is connected), then it would be possible for us to view our 'NOW' with more of an essence of future and past, all intermingling. The best word to describe it would be 'intuition'.
To rationalise something with logic is to consider the thorough analysis of data available... But to intuit something is to consider that which is beyond any current data, and beyond any rationalised thought process. This is because (my personal opinion only) intution is a friend of higher vibrational energies, so its natural environement is a place where time and space see a wider vision of lower vibrational energies.

To add another idea - humans have a remarkable effect on the atomic structure of the universe around us. More so than we think. We have all seen star wars, and the powers the jedi knights possess, this isnt just a science fiction concept, its a living reality within quantum physics. Within the centre of all atoms lies an energy that is absolutely receptive to human expectation, it is creatively malleable to our thoughts. Some quantum physicists have gone as far to say that this energy could actually be 'consciousness' in some form, that this consciousness is within everything, connecting eveything, a common bond.

There is also another scientific anomaly known as the placebo effect. Im not sure if any english people saw a documentary last night about it, I was very pleased to view it. The placebo effect is whats known as a 'sham'. An example - (and this is just one of many examples from the documenatry) A hospital in Texas has been doing a secret research project for a couple of years. Their task - To take all patients with 'knee problems and severe pain', and then separate them into two groups. One of these groups will receieve real surgery on their knee to cure the problem, and the other group will be fooled into THINKING they had real surgery. In actual fact, they were just wheeled into the operating theatre, and the surgeoons played around for the amount of time the surgery took, opened their knee up, so a scar would show, but did ABSOLUTELY NO work on the knee.

The results of the research were staggering - There was NO DISTINCTION between the two groups (treated and un-treated) after surgery was complete. Those who had been fooled into having surgery had felt a full and happy recovery. So how did this happen? Its what known as the placebo effect - human expectation seems to have the power to heal itself. No matter what the problem, if someone believes/expects a recovery, then it will happen. Scientific evidence on this subject is plentiful.

Again, this links to the creative power we all possess, yet do not realise it. We pray to Gods for miracles, when the miracles are inside of us, part of every one of us. The true prayer is the positive prayer - not asking for help, but thanking for the help already recieved, this is the power of expectation. It arouses our abilties to achieve the previously unattainable.

Sorry I rambled a bit Devilfish I really like your idea, excellent!

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Peri
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posted February 01, 2006 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I also think so Dev, but could you please elaborate a bit more on "consciencly reroute them to bring about a more desired result" I am particularly interested in it.

No matter how hard I tried, I could never escape from the profecy of my dreams, so I have become much more fatalistic, seems we are all playthings of the stars...

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Devilfish
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posted February 01, 2006 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for all the positive feedback everyone

BG you said quote:
First of all, you have commented on being in tune with specific energies. Well, each particle can exist in differing quantum states, it is even possible for 2 particles to exist in the eact SAME space, but they resonate of different frequencies.
Quantum physics has long been trying to equate a thoery that would unify all energy, this is known as the Grand Unified Theory, or the Theory of Everything. The problem they encounter generally, is that gravity is a far weaker force in the particle world than it is in the cosmological larger universe. Further to say, gravity is SO weak on a particle scale, that if all the energy was to be unified - the electro-magnetic, weak nuclear, strong nuclear, gravitaional forces - then the following would have to occur... The gravitational and weak nuclear forces would have to increase their vibrational strength/intensity, and the elctro-magnetic and strong nuclear forces would have to decrease their vibrational strength/intensity (or the gravitational/weak nuclear could increase whilst ectro magnetic/strong nuclear remain stagnent)."
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this gives me the image of a puzzle being put togather,. two particles can exsit in the same space and resonate to different frequencies , so if there are say two sets of particles ,each set being in the same space yet resonating differently, maybe the combo of both sets(all four) would be a perfect match of four paticles, with two in one space two in another, two in one space with different frequencies, but the opposite set being of the same different frequencies........meaning that the four would become two, than one.which seems right because it sounds like the reversing process of cell division to me.
did that make any sense,lol?
you also said quote:
"Many have pondered on what would actually happen if energy were to unite in this way. And this is a big deal we are talking about, this would mean there are no oppositions, no polarisations, no negative and positive - energy would be truly balanced as ONE. Many propose that the particles would behave in different ways, that our creative power would be unleashed, that there would no longer be any resistance. How can I explain it - okay, imagine Love in its purest form - yielding, giving, creative, magnaminous - this is a similar concept."
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that sounds like the concept of balancing a grand cross in astrology, i think rather than balancing the pull with equal tension, a higher concept would be to blend the energy to create a whole rather than seperate functioning pieces.they say oppositions ,when harmonized ,can become like conjunctions.
as above so below ,eh?

again quoting your ealier post for reference:
So, this applies to your idea of precognitive dreaming, and your thoughts on becoming more attuned to specific energies will allow us more mastery and creative prowess for future events. I completely agree with you. This is one of the reasons I practise chakra meditation (theres a thread on it in astrology). If we become more attuned to our own bodies energies, and the energy recieved via external sources (everything is connected), then it would be possible for us to view our 'NOW' with more of an essence of future and past, all intermingling. The best word to describe it would be 'intuition'.
To rationalise something with logic is to consider the thorough analysis of data available... But to intuit something is to consider that which is beyond any current data, and beyond any rationalised thought process. This is because (my personal opinion only) intution is a friend of higher vibrational energies, so its natural environement is a place where time and space see a wider vision of lower vibrational energies."
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i agree, i have followed the post you mentioned , it is very informative.
meditation for me is weird, its almost like it comes too naturally , i get overwelmed with doing it in a focused ritualized way.if i dwell long there i can become exhausted.is that possible?
its funny you mentioned the placebo effect cause i was just reading about that in a book by deepak chopra on cancer patients.very interesting stuff !
you also said :
Again, this links to the creative power we all possess, yet do not realise it. We pray to Gods for miracles, when the miracles are inside of us, part of every one of us. The true prayer is the positive prayer - not asking for help, but thanking for the help already recieved, this is the power of expectation. It arouses our abilties to achieve the previously unattainable.
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I could not agree with you more

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Devilfish
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posted February 01, 2006 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Peri
ok , from my own experience i have noticed that my dreams follow a pattern.the ones that come true are the ones that stick with me vividly,im begining to believe in our enviroment we ,as a unit, tap into certain energies.this happens first as a global unit, then a national unti, then a community unit, then a family unit, then a personal unit.
so when our units tap into the same source of energy we have narrowed the probabilities of the manifestation.when we narrow our unit(as in going from global to personal) we further narrow the probabilities of manifestation.
so, when i have had dreams come true , they manifest that truth in layers.
as in, there will be emotional signifigance first,then material signifigance.
sometimes one dream will have several layers of manifestation.
so if i am able to see beyond symbology and narrow it down into a specific course of energy, then i can change the probablity of how it will manifest.
for instance:a couple weeks ago i had a dream that a long haired man in orange entered my childrens school and tried to hurt them.i grabbed them and hid them in an oak tree.
so when i woke up, of course, i was nervous but i tried to think of the symbols and energy at play.........................male/ power/mars/orange/taurus/pain, death /pluto/oak tree/strength through knowledge wisdom.
i looked at astrology, mars is in taurus....my son had mars opposing pluto too.
scorpio opposing taurus .symbologies are hints of energies.
looking at the zodiac wheel i focused on leo/aquarius for balance.i talked to my children about balancing ego needs/ with those of brotherhood & unity.i talked of balancing aggression with cooperation and love of self /and others.transforming aggression as in anger/ to aggressive drive, as in accomplishments(sports,studies what have you)after we talked there was a show on tv about children avoiding abduction.
i made my children watch this.we talked of ways to stay safe.
the next day i drove my kids to school i was running late stopped to get gas and they wanted to go ahead and walk (we were really close to the school), my instincts said NO!
at noon i turned on the news to hear an attempted abduction occured outside of my childrens school on the exact route they would've walked.the child kicked the man and ran to safety.
you see, to me the energies were there all along they could not be avoided but i could choose a different way to have them manifest in MY life.
ill post more on my patterns in the next post.
hope this helps

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Philbird
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posted February 01, 2006 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
This may or may not be the right forum to mention this, but I just bought a DVD by The Monroe Institute. www.hemi-sync.com
It's called light Source.
Here is a semi description of the DVD (also available for the computer)
"Sacred geometry is the blueprint of Creation and the genesis of all form. It is an ancientscience that explores and explains the energy patterns that create and unify all things and reveals the precise way that the energy of Creation itself. On every scale, every natural pattern of growth or movement conforms inevitably to one or more geometric shapes.
There is more about it on the site. I love it!

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Peri
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posted February 02, 2006 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I am impressed and waiting for your new posts! Very interesting.

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Ra
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posted February 02, 2006 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I've got a whole set of (36?) Hemi-Sync tapes from the Monroe Institute. It's a great technology, and I whole heartedly support Robert Monroe's philosophy.

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SunChild
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posted February 02, 2006 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Great post Devilfish..and I agree

(Great to see you around btw, I've always enjoyed your posts.)
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Devilfish
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posted February 07, 2006 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
hello everyone!
Philbird ive only briefly looked at the hemi lock info. on the monroe site ,but it does sound interesting

RA, could you tell us more about your experiences with them?

Peri , thanks! i havent posted anymore on patterns yet but will do so soon.

Sunchild, im so happy you're back, i missed you & im glad you enjoy my posts, i enjoy yours too

BG you inspired me(your thread in astrology) to look into meditation more, and im so grateful.i think i was trying too hard ,which had the opposite desired effect.thank you

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Peri
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posted February 08, 2006 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
no hurry, sweet Dev

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Devilfish
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posted February 22, 2006 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
well i wanted to contine explaining another piece of my dream patterns.
i sure hope this conclusion isnt disappointing
i notice my dreams come in waves.this is a pattern ive noticed over several months.
one week i will have vivid imagery and total dream recall, these are usually premonition or pregog. type dreams.
the next week i will have deep dark sleep with no dream recall, or vague learning recall(like im studying in my dreams).
the next week i will have partial dream recall that have some lucid aspects to them.
the following week i intergrate back into total dream recall.
im going to be looking at my hormone cycles more to see if there is correlations.
also i do notice my eating patterns change within a month and i do fast a week out of every month.its like my food intake goes from eating alot to eating lightly to fasting then lightly then back to eating everything.
so in the upcoming monthes im going to note these cycles and see if they are related to my dream recall.

i will continue to post any patterns i see.
i will also try to post precog. and/or premontion dreams that are not too intimate in detail
thats all for now, any thoughts?

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