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izodesmozina
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posted December 11, 2006 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiLover75     Edit/Delete Message
Oh! Man... well I can't comment on what it means, but I had a 12th house dream last night too. Strangely enough, Pluto is also transiting my 12th (I'm 28 degrees Sag rising with Neptune in Sag). I was dreaming about a natal chart and I actually *went into* the 12th house... which was then like an enclosed room and I had to drill my way out... the drill made a hole and I could see sunlight. And then my dream switched perspectives and it was like an outside view of a building and a huge (like really huge) creepy shadowy monster thing was breaking out of the top of the building, literally ripping the roof off. Maybe it was Mr Pluto himself... woohoo. Anyway... sounds like a similar theme.

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posted December 12, 2006 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Oh dear... but at least Pluto is gonna get out of your 12th house... in my case he just entered it and he's stayin' a while(25* Cappy rising here), not to mention Saturn in my 8th... Oh well...
Maybe your dream does have a metaphorical interpretation. Can you relate it with something? Are you more into astrology now (since you saw your chart), do you feel trapped somehow, did you go through some kind of disrupting experience? I'm pulling here 'cause I haven't been into dreams for a reaaly long time.
Anyway, how was the Pluto transit? Should I expect anything bad in particular or the sky is the limit?

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posted December 12, 2006 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiLover75     Edit/Delete Message
I think the dream was to do with me facing my 12th house issues. The Pluto transit definitely brought up psychological issues but I didn't notice they were building up and coming to the surface. Kind of like the shadowy monster thing in my dream. Now with the huge pile-up of planets in my 12th house (they all transited my moon in Scorpio before that, opposite my sun) it's been quite an eye-opener. I've been working through a lot of "emotional stuff" that I had been keeping repressed, and the closer Pluto gets to my ascendant I feel like I am transforming and getting MUCH more assertive. Pluto isn't finished with me yet but I am hoping for a positive outcome all round... I think that me drilling through the "12th house" and seeing some sunlight was me seeing the beginnings of some positive outcome. And yeah I'm more into astrology now than I used to be... now that I think about it, strangely enough my deepening of interest in it coincided with the Pluto transit. Weird. Good luck with your 12th house Pluto transit and trust that it will bring you the best.

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posted December 12, 2006 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, I guess it's gonna be some kind of ride, huh? Actually, my interest in astrology increased when Pluto entered my 12th house, as well. I'm not scared, I know I have issues that I have to solve and I think I'm ready to clean up my closet . Can't wait for my transformation (Pluto is also a singleton in my chart and a part of a T-cross and this is a very big deal to me).
Interesting dream you had... hmmm... sunlight usually means knowledge, doesn't it? I think that your attitude about this transit is already very suggestive for its positive outcome. Best of luck to you and thanks very much for sharing! I'm more optimistic about it now!

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posted December 12, 2006 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiLover75     Edit/Delete Message
It's not scary at all... embrace the change. I've had other stuff going on in my chart that synchronised with the Pluto transit - I found that Saturn has been the hardest thing to deal with (it went through my 7th house and it's now in my 8th); Uranus conj. my Mars coincided with Saturn transiting my 7th and I broke up my secure long-term relationship and started with someone the complete opposite of my ex. That in itself and it's spin-off effects has brought up major 12th house issues. Saturn going into my 8th has made me face the reality of getting into financial debts, which again fed into my 12th house (depression), and a Venus square Pluto transit also had a startling effect on me - that one had to be the worst. So all said, it's not necessarily Pluto in your 12th that is scary but it depends on what else is going on in your chart... the circumstances that your life gets into. I have gone very deep into my 12th house as a result of my "stuff" but I do see the light at the end of the tunnel now. I'm not sure if sunlight means knowledge or not, but my own feeling about the dream is that it represented a new beginning that's starting to happen...

Something I wish I could have done during the transit was gotten a professional counselor to talk to, to help me work through things better and sooner. That way things may not have come to such a dramatic peak (I ended up with chronic anxiety, stress and depression) - BUT I have been dealing with it and breaking through it all thanks to close friends and even people online who I've been able to talk to. So, if you think counseling might be something you could benefit from during your Pluto 12th house transit, I say go for it and deal with the issues.

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posted December 13, 2006 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello izodesmozina Welcome to Astral Realms.

I am astrologically impaired, so I have no idea what you and GeminiLover are talking about, although it it quite interesting.

These dream 'flashes' seem to simply reflect issues going on in your life at the moment.

The first 'flash' you offered could suggest that you feel more separated than usual from your father. Do you and he normally have a pretty good connection? (psychic, mental, emotional, or otherwise)

The 'flash' about your boyfriend reflects something about the relationship. How is that relationship? In the dream you didn't even know he was missing until he returned ... what do you think this means?

The 'flash' about crying and the church could suggest that you are releasing emotional energies and feeling a need for more of a spiritual connection. Is this so?

What do you think?

Oh, and I don't think the window has anything to do with dream recall, but you can easily find out. Next time you awaken with some dream memory, look out the window and see if the dream vanishes.

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posted December 13, 2006 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
GeminiLover, I'm sorry you had to go through so much turmoil.
There are other transits that worry me, like Neptune and Saturn squaring my unaspected singleton Venus (not now though).
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with the Pluto transit.

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I was going to ask that question in reference to the previous dream, so perhaps these dreams are all connected.

Transforming people can sometimes indicate changing attitudes/beliefs/thoughts. If this be the case, then there should be something in common between the transformed individuals - ie, a characteristic, personality trait, thought/belief system - which will point to the subject of the change or issue with you.

Anything like that at work here? How did you feel in that dream? Is there an embarrasing issue on your mind? Or are you in need of help? Or are you keeping some secret?

From what you said in your last post, the commonality of the two in the previous dream could be that they have secrets of one kind or another, which would really be saying that you may be hiding something from people, something you feel others may judge you over, and that there is some sort of change happening in your attitude about this "something".

How do you feel about this?

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Izodesmozina, please feel free to post here whenever you feel the need. It is totally okay with me.

Thank you for sharing your dream.

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Hello izodesmozina

Maybe your dream with Zala is suggesting that you should connect (phone) with a part of yourself which is like Zala, that perhaps you need to "admire and respect" yourself more than you do. Do you feel "proud" of yourself? Are you proud of izodesmozina? And maybe you have some other connection with Zala that is beyond this symbolism.

The funeral ... any connections you feel are being made between dreams and waking life are probably far superior to any I could guess of.


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I think you are right about the first dream.

You could be right about your friend's dream, I don't know for sure. I begin by wondering if there is something new coming into your friend's life, unexpectedly. I suppose the new guy could fit that scenario. Maybe she is wondering how to handle it, or what to do.

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Hello izodesmozina

The same thought came to me right away. The man is you.

So, the question now is, have you gained any insight into the past life relationship with that particular person?

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You are welcome, and thank you for sharing your dreams.

You asked about remembering feelings more than details ... not bad at all, of course. Many details are often symbolic of feelings we do not want to feel, so by actually feeling them, you are getting straight to the point ... and therefore you also to not need to remember as much.

Black blood? This is interesting and timely ...

Black = unconscious, unknown, hidden, secret
Blood = life force, life energy

So, we could actually translate black blood as possibly meaning unconscious/unknown life force energies, or past life experience/influence. It certainly fits the present circumstances!

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Well, I cannot say for certain what kind of dream this was, and I'm not going to sell you false hope by definitively saying "it is so". That said, I will admit that, to me, this dream does not feel like a wish fulfillment, and does have the feeling of the conveyance of information from your higher self or guides.

Could you be fooling yourself? Perhaps. Could this be informaton you can trust? Indeed.

No doubt, time will tell, and when it does I suppose you will learn something about self-discernment, about trusting yourself and your intuition. I think the dream points to this.

The statue represents yourself, perhaps that part of yourself which is in stasis, especially as concerns this relationship. You are waiting, still (not doing anything) and patient. You are anxious or concerned about the issue, but this is only because you do not yet see the whole picture (left eye in shadow). There are factors at work which are not completely visible (fragment of synastry), but your intuition (blue eyes) can help here. In the dream you had an "impression", a "feeling", that the eyes were blue, and I think this is your subconscious mind's way of saying "trust your intuition", to use that same feeling of an "impression" to guide you.

Do you see what I mean?

So, what do you think, or rather, what do you feel ... was this dream a message, or a wish-fulfillment?

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