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Unmoved
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posted August 17, 2007 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings

I had a dream which freaked me out. I am always aware that I am dreaming when I am dreaming, but never are the characters aware, or they never tell me they are.

In this dream, there was a guy, who looked familiar but who I do not know in real life who kept flirting with me blatanly in the presence of my boyfriend, which made me uncomfortable. Then one thing led to another and we kissed, but as we kissed, it was a strange sensation as if our flesh was merging as one, through our clothing.

Then, as I pulled away from the horror, he said to me, in a knowing smile, "C'mon! You know that this is a dream, you always know. It's just that we both know this time, so we can do whatever we want."

I was so freaked out by this guy in the dream that I woke up afraid because it felt as if he had trespassed onto my dream, as if he was not invited, but came to taunt me.

He knew me, and the way he was following me around in the dream, paying attention to me, felt as if he came into the dream for me, on the mission to tell me that, yes, dreams are in my control, but that he could contribute to them too.

He made it seem as if the fact that it was a dream was our little secret and that all the other characters didn't have to know that it was not real, that they could stay in their state of make-belief.

This guy made me uncomfortable because he was real, as if he knew me, and I have a feeling that he exists, somewhere in the world.

Have you ever experienced such, or do you know of such?

In my dreams, I never tell the people in it that it is a dream and that we can change things. I usually let the dream lead me until I decide to stop it; and I can wake up and sleep again and carry on where I left off. I am always in control and just going through an adventure, but this time, there was another person who knew this and wanted to be in cahoots about it with me.

I then banished him from my dream by praying. I merely said the Lord's prayer, and I commanded him to leave; asking all the saints to give me strength against this character who proved more powerful than me. As soon as I told him to leave, saying that he must leave if he is not in the dream in the spirit of love and peace, he disappeared.

That's when I woke up. I can even remember how he looked vividly; greyish longish hair just below his jaw, grey eyes, good-looking, caucasian, about 5ft8, and charming, around 28 yrs old.

As soon as he entered the dream he started searching out for me, trying to find me when I was alone, or staying behind to wink at me, or say something like, "I know you better than you think." or "You can trust me."

He just kept on smiling in that pervert way, as if he knew something I didn't know, until he revealed that he was trying to play a game with me, a game of total anarchy in the dream because it was a dream and there were no consequences in dreams.

He didn't feel evil, I was not afraid of him, instead, I was digusted by him. He was creepy and menacing. He reminded me of loch, is it, the God of mischief??

What do you think?

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Unmoved
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posted August 20, 2007 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I thought you would have replied to avoid sharing this but, when I was waking up, there was this... thing... woman... creature... or something, sitting at the corner of my bed, near my head, watching me, as if she had been watching the dream too.

This thing, is a woman, in robes and is covered all over like Mother Teresa, and she was just watching me as I woke up. She was not in the dream, she was in that trance state, which I seem to go in and out without control.

I have seen her before, but she was clearer this time. Why I say she is a thing, and not really a human is because, she is of unusually small stature, but fully grown, around... 1,2m tall. She is not a child.

Anyway, so I saw her looking at me waking up from this dreadful dream and then as i became more awake, she disappeared from my vision, but I bet she was still there.

She, on the other hand was not menacing, nor nice. She was just blankand neutral, unsmiling but not frowning. Just looking, observing me. That's what she has been doing lately, well, sice I started seeing her. Whether I see her or not.

I could make light of this and say, "maybe I am going crazy" but I have asked myself that question, many a time, and I doubt that it's madness. I know what I jnow, and my dreams... my realms are becoming blurry and I can not control it.

Actually, I don't know why I told you that bit. Maybe you have heard of beings that sit beside your bed and put men in your dreams???

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posted August 21, 2007 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Very interesting, Unmoved. I'll tell you what I am thinking just as soon as I get a chance.

Back soon.

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Unmoved
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posted August 21, 2007 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you

Take as much time as you need. I'm in no hurry. You are not obligated to return request at people's fancies. You have a life, so do I, so i totally understand.

Love Peace and Power

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posted August 21, 2007 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved
OK...firstly;
Loki is the god you are referring to.
Secondly;
I feel I know what is happening.
The fellow should be gone.
Is that ok with you?
BTW;
The midget woman is A_OK.
Also when did you first have these experiences as related here?
That is all so perfectly normal happenings in my world.
I do not want to talk anymore about this publicly.

Oh yeah, feel free to hear Ra out on his opinion too.

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Unmoved
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posted August 22, 2007 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Sure Fayte. I'll email mail you privately. But thank the Lord you know what's going on.

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Ra
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posted August 22, 2007 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Unmoved

Maybe she (the being) was assisting the man in some way, or maybe she is the man. Whatever the case, it is apparent to me that something is happening here on the Astral level. These entities do not seem to be part of yourself, they do not seem to be internally created symbols. I think you are right, that they are "real".

The lack of control that you feel is only an illusion, and if you consciously recognize this, no other entity can truly influence or harm you, and you will not need help to deal with it. You said yourself, "... on the mission to tell me that, yes, dreams are in my control", and, "I am always in control ...". You also said, "... this character who proved more powerful than me". Not so. "I then banished him from my dream by praying." You have power over him.

Do not let anyone tell you otherwise.

The strange sensation you felt, "as if our flesh was merging as one", is a good way to describe what happens when two entities have "relations" in their Astral/energy bodies. This is a merging or exchange of pure energy.

Perhaps it is because you are aware you are dreaming that these entities have come to you. When we become lucid in a dream, our energy changes, and it could be that these entities are drawn to this energy, to you, for some reason. Maybe they want something, or maybe they are testing you. I do not know.

The bottom line is, if you do not want them around, you can banish them. It is just that simple, and you can do it yourself. Try to keep yourself grounded in "this world".

Thank you for sharing your experience, Unmoved. I look forward to hearing about anything else that happens with this issue, and any thoughts or feelings you have about it. Keep in touch!

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Unmoved
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posted August 22, 2007 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ra

I will keep you posted. I haven't had the experience since that night, but I have felt the presence of things around me; just felt, not seen them.

Fayte will also help me out, and if she has something that I could share with you, that is not too fragile to share publically, then I will. Thank you.

Oh, there was one presence when I was younger but I destroyed him, that's the only word I can use because after out last encounter, I bounced him off the walls of my room, and he never came back. This was a masculine energy, while this one is feminine.

Anyway,

Many thanks/

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Unmoved
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posted August 23, 2007 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't spoken to Fayte yet on her take on this but I thought I should exercise some theories of my own.

Thing is, I don't believe in the devil, but I do believe in the complement of angels, beings that do the opposite of what angels do, that is, to bring comfort, love and serenity. So, I believe that this guy was one of those beings. Actually, I do not know what to make of demons and such, whether they are real beings or negative energy formed by us which materializes on another dimension of "matter" or form??

I feel that this guy did feel that I could recognize him because I vibrate at a different frequency now, and thought he should play a prank with me,... but why merge with me?

Maybe I was on the verge of being possessed? I've always wondered whether I was possessed because I am too strange for words.

The little woman reminds me of another group of beings that visited me in a dream, and they were feline humans, cat people, I have never heard nor seen such, and they were too freindly for word.

I remember that people were treating them badly and I defended them and as a gift of gratitude, they opened my mind to know the universe; and for that moment, I understood everything. I liked those cat-like people. They were nice. And since that day, I've never quite been the same, in a good way. They were filled with love these cat men.

Anyway...

This little woman on the other hand is neither nice nor bad. She is neutral. Just there. And why the robes she wears that cover her up? Why does she identify herself with robes, draped heavily all over her little frame?

I think she could be an ancestor, but a midget woman for an ancestor is hard to get around my head.

Could she be my spirit guide, and if so, would she not be talking, communicating with me?

If she were an angel, would she not be majestic and huge (tall) and beaming in radiant light?

I remember one day, I was sitting, saying an incantation of clarity, then all of a sudden, in my trance, my vision left me, and I was blind, or I just saw a thick mist, a thick mist. When I broke my concentration, I'd get back to the 'real' world but when I focussed again I'd go into this mist again.

I was outside my house; it was full moon, and it was beautiful... and I have done some other things too which might have opened the gates to a place where these things reside??

I dunno. Just speculations.

Any more theories?

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fayte.m
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posted August 23, 2007 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Apologies for not getting back with you immediately; a family emergency came up. However I wanted to make some replies before I finish dealing with the situation, as I do not know how often I will be able to be online for sure yet until it is resolved.
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The bottom line is, if you do not want them around, you can banish them. It is just that simple, and you can do it yourself. Try to keep yourself grounded in "this world".
Good advice. If this is an arena you do not want to enter more, then close off from it after banishing. If however you wish to investigate it further, be warned, there are dangers to the novice. Never assume anything.
Especially judgments of bad or good based on appearances or preconceived ideas about the other side, entities, etcetera.
Beware even more of those things that appear as you were told or thought they should.
Good needs to glamouring or beauty or light to be what it is; however not beneficent NEEDS to appear beautiful and appealing. Your eyes and preconceptions can and will deceive you.
But if you wish to look deeper.....
quote:
Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he
finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes
troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All.

quote:
Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which
is hidden from you will become plain to you. For there is nothing
hidden which will not become manifest.

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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posted August 23, 2007 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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Thing is, I don't believe in the devil, but I do believe in the complement of angels, beings that do the opposite of what angels do, that is, to bring comfort, love and serenity. So, I believe that this guy was one of those beings. Actually, I do not know what to make of demons and such, whether they are real beings or negative energy formed by us which materializes on another dimension of "matter" or form??
Is this what you know, by experience, or is it what you were taught or think might be true?
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If she were an angel, would she not be majestic and huge (tall) and beaming in radiant light?
NO.Such flamboyant displays are NOT needed by beneficent entities. However it is often the bailliwik of deceivers.
So then, do you as most do, equate angels (of the Biblical
type?) with good and beauty and majestic "appearance" with good.
Good does not need such a guise. Good simply is. Your eyes will deceive you. Follow only your heart, your instincts, never your eyes or what you have been told without question.
I did a survey once;
When folks were asked;
If two sets of entities were to come to Earth;
Which would you love and embrace and consider good? Which bad?
1. A beautiful race in a crystal spaceship who look all of light and beauty and or like beautiful Biblical angels, saying repeatedly; "trust us"
Or...these:
2. They come in a black spaceship, they are red with tails, horns, and pointed ears. red eyes, hooves, and breathe smoke from their nostrils.
They do not say trust us as the pretty ones, but instead are just wanting to talk. They laugh alot and act rather human, not above us, all haughty and proud.

Well everyone picked the pretty pretty light ones.
So if any beings or entities want to sucker humanity they could do it that easily to many or most.
Your eyes and desires and preconceptions and even xenophobias will deceive you if you follow them only.


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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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posted August 23, 2007 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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posted August 23, 2007 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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The little woman reminds me of another group of beings that visited me in a dream, and they were feline humans, cat people, I have never heard nor seen such, and they were too freindly for word.

I remember that people were treating them badly and I defended them and as a gift of gratitude, they opened my mind to know the universe; and for that moment, I understood everything. I liked those cat-like people. They were nice. And since that day, I've never quite been the same, in a good way. They were filled with love these cat men.


Were they all feline-like humanoids? Are you sure? What color? How many limbs?
Furred or not?
Or were they cat-like but still could pass as humans?

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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posted August 24, 2007 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
They were humans, like bigfoot is shaped, but with black fur, white faces, even tails, legs like humans, walked like humans, but did not speak, the spoke through the mind. They were peaceful but you could feel they were powerful and unafraid. Even defending them was stupid, in the dream, because they didn't really care that they were being ridiculed.

They were tall, like a fully growm man ans had a masculine energy.

I drew one for my frind but I don't know where the drawing is. I can try draw it again but it would be timely because I'd draw it on the compiuter.

So, yeah...

Black shirtish fir, sasquash like but not bulky as bigfoot, but feline and graceful. Tails, tall... yes... tall about more than 6ft. White faces with fur too. Kind and quiet demeaners.

I defended them because I thought they were weak but when they called me to them to share the universe with me, I realised that they could have squashed those people but chose not to.

Limbs like humans, legs and arms.

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posted August 24, 2007 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Now, the way you are asking about the cat-people, I'm starting to get afraid, and I thought they were very nice.

What else can I remember...

There were three of them.

The dream was as this:

I walked into a room and there were these strange looking creatures in the corner of the room, separated from everyone else. No one wanted to sit with them it seemed. I didn't pay attention to them. I took my seat alone too and waited, as if it was a classroom or exam room.

Then I overheard some of the people in the room teasing, swearing at these creatures, calling them names, laughing at them, and they did not say anything, as if they were shy, not afraid, but shy.

From nowhere I got up and begun reprimanding everyone for their bad behaviours and then told the cat people to sit with me. they thanked me without speaking, and came over to my corner where we just spoke about mundane things like the weeather. In the dream, it didn't strike me that I was talking to cat-like humans. I just treated them like anyone.

All this time, they had not said a word,but we spoke (don't ask... I dunno either) but soon after, we waited,sat and "chatted"...

Then they got up, and I got up too as if they said I should follow them. I did, but still no word was spoken.

Then they took me to a place of high altitude, with stars like night, but it wasn't night and they said," Thank you," without speaking, and somethng happened to me as this rush happened to me where I understood everything. everything.

They smiled to me kindly as I woke up from that experience and then I woke up for real feeling like a million bucks.

Never been the same ever since, I tell you. I have been surprising myself since that day.

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posted August 24, 2007 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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Now, the way you are asking about the cat-people, I'm starting to get afraid, and I thought they were very nice.
If they are what I have experienced, they were/are nice and good and some could say, just regular folk. Did they wear anything?

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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posted August 24, 2007 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
No, no clothes at all and it seemed as normal as a cat not wearing clothes. I wish they could visit again.

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posted August 24, 2007 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
By the way, finally a person as weird as I am. YOU.

I'll tell you more of my experiences when you have sorted things out at home.

Thanks.

I've missed you.

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posted August 24, 2007 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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By the way, finally a person as weird as I am. YOU.

I've missed you.


What marvelous compliments!
Namaste` My friend!


Back ASAP! May be out a bit.

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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posted August 26, 2007 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ra.

I know you have said your take on this, but if anything pops up, please share. This dream seems important than others hence I am gathering all perspectives and also looking within for answers.

So, if you have an "aha!" moment about my experience/dream... please, do share. This is an area of which I know nothing, hence I am asking anyone who can help.

Thanks.

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posted September 05, 2007 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Of course.

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