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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 08, 2009 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone have any tips on how to use dreams for this purpose? Or how one can be certain that what is being dreamt is actually a recall and not something else?
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GypseeWind
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posted December 10, 2009 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
I can't answer your question with any sort of scientific proof, but I can tell you what I feel to be true.

I had three in one night, during my pregnancy with my oldest daughter. I was spending the night with my girlfriend, we watched a few movies, nothing out of the ordinary. BUT, earlier that day, my daughters Father told me that he would not be leaving his girlfriend to be with me even though I was pregnant.

I remember now, that during that whole evening, I felt very, very, low. I can't say I was suicidal, but just very hopeless.

Anyway, my friend and I went to sleep around midnight in her bed. I had three dreams in a row, which woke me straight up. Each dream was a different time period, and in each dream my husband (we did eventually marry) was directly responsible for my death. He did not kill me himself, but he was responsible.

How do I know it was real, hmmm, I could still taste the things from the dream when I woke up. I could still smell the air. Everything was so clear and vivid, not murky or nonsensical like dreams can be. The stories had a beginning, middle, and an end. And even though my husband looked different, I KNEW it was him.

Also, they were so vivid, and made such an impression, I did not even have to write them down (although I did, cuz I'm like that) but I can still remember each one like it was yesterday, and tell it the same every time. This happened 18 years ago.

I have had other past life memories as well, but they were very short "snippets" and nothing as detailed as these were.

I think extreme emotional distress can trigger these, that is just my opinion.

Also, I think they serve a purpose. Had I been more aware, and less love blind, I would have realized that these were a warning. I should have let him stay with the girl he was with. Now we have just created more karma.

Hope this helps.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 10, 2009 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm. So you were able to relate the dream to your daughter's father, even though he didn't appear as himself in the dream(s)? You are thinking that it is your emotional state that triggered the dreams...

That's interesting because last night, two days after posting this question, I had a vivid dream about fleeing from an abusive husband. I did not look like myself in the dream and my husband did not look like my current boyfriend. We were a different ethnicity of people entirely. I wasn't in any particular emotional state last night, as I went to bed feeling very calm. Yet I had this dream.

It was very vivid, I remember the people and circumstances very clearly today (which sometimes happens but often not unless I write it down immediately upon waking), and I even know what time period it was. Something tells me that dream was very significant. Perhaps my boyfriend was even the husband I was running from, or maybe the cop who failed to protect me because his wife accused him of being too emotionally involved with the case. I had a very deep emotional attachment to that police officer and I remember that feeling of betrayal when he told me he couldn't work my case anymore as if was REAL and happened just yesterday. I also remember sights, smells from the hospital, etc. Had I written down details right when I woke up I would have had names as well.

In any event, I'm not sure what to make of it when I have these types of dreams. Are they being triggered by something I saw on TV, something I heard, some random subconscious thing that my brain absorbed, or are they real memories?

Complicating matters is the fact that the dream turned lucid towards the end, as right when my husband was about to shoot me to death, I decided that I didn't want to die like that, and changed the outcome of the dream to me pretending to reconcile with him while I plotted to get away another day. Strangely, modifying the dream in this way seemed to cause me to exit the dream state, because I promptly woke up, as if I had done something "not allowed." If it was a past life recollection would I have been able to modify events in that way?

If it's a recall, I'm also surprised at how recent that life was. Less than 40 years ago.

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Mystique
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posted December 10, 2009 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
Hi

I don't think you can change the scenario of a past life experience in the dream and you are right when its past life you see events as they occurred. I wonder though....what if we can recall a past life in a dream at a time in our current life when we need to see it to change something or not repeat it..so once you have seen the main scenario in the past your higher self interrupts the past life event and guides you by showing what you can do differently this time around, hence the lucid ending of the dream, the part where you have a choice to change something...

What do you think...
I mean if the reason we recall our past lives in dreams is to help us do something different in this life then its only reasonable to me that while we are in our more intuitive/spiritual state while asleep, that this is when we can wisely alter a decision/event/experience

I have had past life dreams when I was not expecting to so they do show up when we require them I think.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 10, 2009 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
That's a good point Mystique. Perhaps I shouldn't discount it as a recall. I have had dreams of getting shot (in the face) since I was a child and nothing in this life should have triggered that. I've never witnessed such a horrific shooting or ever really even been in proximity to a handgun. Yet whenever I dream about it, it's very realistic and I can feel the sensations as if it's happening...fear, shock, pain, the sudden absence of pain, death...

I didn't think we were supposed to die in our dreams LOL but I have died in mine plenty of times and when I do die, that's usually the way I go out. I definitely think it's likely that I was shot and murdered in a past life.

If I am supposed to be learning something to apply to this life it's a little concerning because there are no abusive or violent elements in my relationship or not really any in previous relationships. So I'm not sure what the point of dreaming about being stalked/hunted and killed by my spouse is if I'm happy.

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posted December 10, 2009 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
I think it the lucid part of the dream thats important here...you recalled the past life experience then your higher self "lucidly" showed you what you can change or have changed....doesnt mean you have same relationship now but the lucid decision you took shows that you guys are doing it differently this time...what do you think?

Like you when I was little, though, I used to have lots of shooting dreams even to the point where my parents worried about my nightmares...since I was so little they must have been memories of a past life - very war like....as an adult I have over the years had a couple of those dreams where I was shot dead - nazi style

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posted December 11, 2009 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
That not dying in your dreams is a myth, I believe. I've died in mine lots of times, and even been to my funeral (which sucked, which is why I have planned it out, even down to the music)

But if this dream WAS you and your spouse, then maybe it is just showing you that your present incarnation and the joy of it, is your reward for the injustice of the last one?

The lucid part could possibly be your brains defense mechanism protecting you from the horrible feeling that the memory caused.

Do you and your partner have conjuctions between the rulers of the planets in your 12th houses? I have heard that can be karma from the recent past (you did say 40 years ago? right? recent in past lives I would think.)

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 11, 2009 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Gypsee,

No conjunctions between 12th house rulers but his Sun falls in my 12th house and in our composite chart we have the Moon in the 12th house which is supposed to be a double whammy for past lives since past lives are represented by the 12th house, the Moon, and the South Node. The composite SN is conjunct the MC.

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Mystique
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posted December 11, 2009 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
"...or maybe the cop who failed to protect me because his wife accused him of being too emotionally involved with the case. I had a very deep emotional attachment to that police officer and I remember that feeling of betrayal when he told me he couldn't work my case anymore as if was REAL and happened just yesterday. I also remember sights, smells from the hospital, etc."

Composite SN conj MC = you both continuing from where you left off in the past; also this conjunction connects with the policeman (Capricorn/Saturn symbolism)plus your boyfriend's Sun in your 12th possibly indicating the debt he may owe for the betrayal you felt where he couldnt help you out because of his wife that time....

Does it ring a bell for you? that if you connect these aspects to your dream?

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 14, 2009 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Mystique,

I agree about the SN conj MC representing a continuation from the past, but apparently it's also associated with notoriety and a need to withdraw from public image and concentrate more on establishing a harmonious domestic life...

This, plus a challenging Grand Cross in our composite chart, lead me to believe he might have actually been the ex-husband. I've been searching for an explanation about what the Grand Cross represents (it's a doozy: Moon, Venus, Pluto/Dejanira, and Osiris/Nessus all squared), and I think this might be it. In the draco composite, the squares switch so that Nessus is opposite Venus, squared to a Moon & Pluto/Dejanira opposition.

Clearly the almost exact Nessus/Dejanira square would be indicative of obsession and abuse. Draco Nessus opposing Venus would emphasize this even more in a relationship context. Adding the Moon and Pluto only increases the emotional intensity, obsession, depth, and life-changing aspects of the equation.

I also had a dream the other night in which I asked myself, "Who was he really?" and a woman came up to me and told me his DOB was another date. I ran a chart for that date and "that" man, whoever he is, has an incredible chart...Venus is exact square Pluto, Nessus is opposed Venus and square Pluto (eerily similar to our composite chart), and Dejanira is conjunct his North Node. His Scorpio Moon is also opposed to his Chiron in Taurus.

I think THAT dream was a revelation to me that my question about "who was he really?" points to him being the ex-husband who killed me instead of the cop that tried to protect me.

That would certainly involve some serious karma and explain all the 12th house action we have going on.

I don't find that as disturbing as I thought I would, just fascinating. And to bring it all back to your observation on the SN placement in the tropical composite...well I think with the NN being conjunct the Nadir there's an obvious emphasis on leaving behind the negativity associated with the fame and notoriety of the SN and being destined to focus a LOT of energy on home and domestic matters.

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Mystique
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posted December 16, 2009 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
Fascinating indeed

Also go with your "feel" for him in your dream...meaning no matter what face or mask your karma mate/soulmate has in the dream or past life recollection you will always be able to recognise thei energy

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LEXX
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posted December 17, 2009 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
StarrofVenusGirl & Mystique...
A key here is also...
Did either or both of you see yourself? Your own face, but not in a mirror or picture?

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 17, 2009 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
LEXX,

I didn't see myself until I died. Until then I was in the dream in first person. During the confrontation that resulted in my death though (or right before when things started to get fuzzy and change as I tried to avoid death), I was in third person and saw what I looked like.

There were a few other moments of third person perspective, like when I was running and looking for a place to hide, I was outside of myself and scanning the environment, but there were no other people around. Just me running down a dark, empty street in my nightie.

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posted December 18, 2009 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
Lexx good point...it was me..its a very real, vivid feeling as well and it used to be recurring...pretty much same scene

Haven't had this dream in a long while and I believe its a part of me that's healed now

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