posted October 14, 2010 11:58 PM         

Someone else was posting at the same time as me and Lexx's owl post went bye bye.

Sigh.

In a nutshell, I said I loved that last bit of what you wrote about the owls in your dreams, and I also said that I was wonky on cough syrup, but when I'm clearheaded, I will think on your owl 'situation' and let you know if I get anything.

posted October 15, 2010 12:27 AM         

They smile and purr like cats or hum.
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That is very interesting, and I'de like to think about it.

I have been thinking (not dreaming) of owls alot lately myself.
There is something there, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
I'll get back to you after I've thought about it some.

That last pic is a wowser. I love it.

Lexx, does this dream give you a good feeling or a bad feeling??

I ask because last night as I turned and twisted in a semi-feverish state due to a cold my daughter shared with me, I had this thought....

*Wow, this is going to be hard to explain*

OK, I find owls and cats both to be oddly human creatures, even though they are obviously not...

I was going to look up Native America Medicine and post both for you, and I can still do that, but..

I was thinking about your recent situation with people in your life, and how they were representing themselves as one thing, but turned out to be another, and that led me to think about this dream of yours.

It's as if the owl is shapeshifting into the cat, because, well.. cats are sweet, and warm and all lovely purring and rubbing against ones legs.
Owls are lovely too, but it can't be forgotten that they are wild, undomesticated, and true to that nature, they are out for their own survival.

I guess what I am saying is can the owl be a person, disguised as something else, trying to get closer to you in your life.?

posted October 15, 2010 12:34 AM         

Off topic, but wanted to tell you I love your user name ...not sure if I ever told you that.

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Lexx, does this dream give you a good feeling or a bad feeling??

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Very peaceful and protected.
Also a sense of it being only the barn owls who are guarding me.
Most of the other owls, except for the extremely tiny screech owl (pygmy owl I think it is called) are not nice in my dreams.

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: I ask because last night as I turned and twisted in a semi-feverish state due to a cold my daughter shared with me, I had this thought....

*Wow, this is going to be hard to explain*

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Wow! I wonder why this was on your mind?
Hope you and your daughter feel better soon.

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OK, I find owls and cats both to be oddly human creatures, even though they are obviously not...

I was going to look up Native America Medicine and post both for you, and I can still do that, but..

I was thinking about your recent situation with people in your life, and how they were representing themselves as one thing, but turned out to be another, and that led me to think about this dream of yours.

It's as if the owl is shapeshifting into the cat, because, well.. cats are sweet, and warm and all lovely purring and rubbing against ones legs.
Owls are lovely too, but it can't be forgotten that they are wild, undomesticated, and true to that nature, they are out for their own survival.

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No, the barn owls are simply purring and humming. No shapeshifting.

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I guess what I am saying is can the owl be a person, disguised as something else, trying to get closer to you in your life.?

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posted October 15, 2010 12:46 AM         

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HHmmm.....I can see that as both good and bad.
And more than one person. I shall ponder that.
Also, Cancer/Scorpio729
gave some feedback on this at UC.

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http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004126-2.html

It looks like they're conducting surgery on the blissfully oblivious Moon. And the owls look kind of human in their eyes and nose/beak thing.

On owl symbolism:

Celtic Owl Tradition
Cailleach-oidhche, Owl, represents wisdom, stealth, initiation, change and detachment. She is associated with arcane lore, clairvoyance, seeking deeper knowledge and death as a new beginning. Owl is aware of her surroundings at all times, has great intuition and the courage to follow her instincts. She offers keen insight into obscure occurrences, a bringer of hidden truth, omens and secrets. She is the power animal of psychics.

The Celts believe Owl is a mysterious magickal, sacred animal associated with deities of the Underworld, a place of unpredictable change, and is a guide to and from this realm.

This raptor is associated with the Moon and the Crone aspect of the Goddess. Barn Owl is especially revered as the one who sees without sight and hears the unspoken.

Owl in AmerIndian Tradition
Owl’s keynote is deception because she is able to see truth through delusion. She is associated with clairvoyance and white magic. Her power is strongest in the night. She is called Night Eagle by some tribes and sits on the East of the Medicine Wheel, the site of illumination. The Pawnee believed she was a symbol of protection. Cherokees believed Owl and Cougar were sacred because of their ability to see in the dark and bringing messages in dreams.

The Oglala Sioux held Snowy Owl in high esteem. Warriors who excelled in battle wore a cap of this bird’s feathers in honor of their bravery. The Siouan Owl Lodge believed the forces of nature bestowed keener vision upon those who wore owl feathers.

Other tribes feared Owl and called her feathers deceivers, associating this bird with sorcery and dark magic. Ojibwas believed she was symbolic of death and evil. The Pueblos associated her with Skeleton Man, the god of death and fertility.

Apaches were frightened of owls because they believed these birds embodied spirits of their dead. There is historical proof. Apache scouts tracking Geronimo were terrified when one of the U.S. Cavalry soldiers had a Great Horned Owl with him on the search. They said that it was a bad omen. They couldn’t capture the renegade Chiricahuas if the raptor was present. The animal was left behind.

Owls being used in old societies and rites was originally used to symbolize all the good aspects of the owl. When they were discovered as having a tie to these societies, they were automatically seen as satanic.

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Thank You, in reference to the name.

Well, then maybe the owls are to protect you, or be your familiar of sorts, just like your kitties.

I have an affinity for owls myself. I have a whole collection of those God Awful 70's ones in my kitchen. Well, most people find them tacky, but I like them, all that matters I guess.

I've read that about owls as well, (your instert regarding Native American lore).
They are wonderful and mysterious creatures.
I'm glad they comfort you in your dreams.

Let me know if you figure out the meaning of your dream. It's a very interesting one.

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I have an idea of who the screech owl is, and the longed eared owl.
The nice purring/humming barn owls, seem to be guardians and comforters.
The hungry/vampirish like other owls.....not sure yet.

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Lexx, Sabian symbol for Sag, Deg 5 is An Owl sits alone on the branch of a big tree - so in general, poised and wise and highly perceptive, a guardian - ALL GOOD. I have my Asteroid Horus here. The owl has been appearing more frequently in my consciousness lately too and also there's that kids movie coming out and my youngest daughter is reading the books and such. There is an entire room at the Edison museum in Florida dedicated to his owl collection that I got to see some time back. Just seems to be the owls special time as an archetype and there is always a positive view.

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Gypsee, I have a swell wooden carved owl napkin holder that I got at Goodwill last year for 50 cents, and no matter what, I greatly treasure his post in my kitchen.

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posted October 15, 2010 12:50 AM         

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Well, your napkin holder would go great with my salt and pepper shakers.
The salt has red wiggly eyes, and the pepper has black ones.
They are so ridiculous they've slipped into the classification of sublime.
To me of course.

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Not sure what to make of owls, they seem to be popping up everywhere and I hear all kinds of things about them. In some cases, they are the creepiest animals in the world but at the same time other owls are the cutest little fluffy things ever, like some have nasty personalities and other have nice ones. I guess that relates to Gypsee's thing on how human they are.

Cats have always seemed really human to me too. They'll slink off in any direction they want rather than demanding attention like dogs. And they're eyes are really expressive.

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GypseeWind
Thank you for your insights.
Things are becoming very clear for me about many things.
Unexpected changes, a feeling of getting to know myself better in ways I never could before now.
Sometimes I am a child when the owls "visit" me;
and other times an adult.
I have never until recently; ever been a female in my dreams...never.
I have always been male, child or adult.
An overwhelming sense of good "magic" afoot.
And the owls have been coming more and more, and doing strange human like things.
They arrive now with faery and other wondrous images/scenes and a sense of enchantment.
I cannot post more about my owl dreams because it is far too personal.

If you pick up anything else though;
please let me know.

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posted October 15, 2010 01:12 AM         

I was listening to the song 'Wildfire', I
am sure you remember that one, it was a huge hit... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4TNGG3XIIY

at 3:04 he says,
"Theres been an old hoot owl howlin'
by my window now
for six nights in a row,
she's coming for me I know"

posted October 15, 2010 09:10 AM         

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Hoot Owl
any owl that utters a hooting cry, as distinct from a screech owl;
especially the Great Horned Owl.

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More here: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Barred_owl

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Great_Horned_Owl

Yes, I remember that song and like it.